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igorthesmall 01-21-2009 08:40 AM

6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Check this out

http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...agle-gold.html

Quote:

The start of sales for the US Mint's 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin is fast approaching, but that doesn't necessarily mean you will receive your coin any time soon.

While poking around the US Mint's website, I managed to find the unreleased product page for the Ultra High Relief, which includes this statement:

The United States Mint will accept orders beginning on January 22, 2009 at 12:00 noon (ET). Orders will be processed on a first-in, first-out basis, and could potentially take up to six to nine months to complete based on gold blank availability.
When I previewed the Ultra High Relief back in mid-December, I had mentioned the possibility that the US Mint might be having trouble obtaining gold blanks, which could lead to a delayed launch and/or household ordering limit. It appears that rather than delaying the launch, the US Mint will simply delay shipping some orders for six to nine months. I think many would have preferred a delayed launch.

In addition to the delayed shipping, the US Mint will be implementing a household ordering limit of one per customer.

You can view the US Mint's product page here, which also includes a price for the coin of $1,189.00. Under the new pricing policy this is based on the $800.00 to $849.99 gold price tier.

The delayed shipping combined with the household limit will complicate the launch and may leave many frustrated. Waiting six to nine months for an order to arrive might be more than some customers are willing to endure.

Coin dealers may also face a complicated situation. Some dealers have offered to purchase coins from individuals for a small premium in order to side-step the household ordering limit and fulfill pre-orders. The potential for a multi-month shipping delay for coins adds a new layer of complication to their purchasing and pre-order fulfillment process.

I hope that the US Mint is simply including this statement to be conservative, but the US Mint's recent track record doesn't leave me too optimistic. Time will tell...

madfranks 01-21-2009 09:00 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
No private business would survive with the policies that the US Mint governs by.

1981 01-21-2009 09:09 AM

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What are the chances it's being delayed so the mint can catch up on fractional GAE's?

EE_ 01-21-2009 09:44 AM

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In light of this news, I'll be speculating on one.

igorthesmall 01-21-2009 10:00 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1522628)
In light of this news, I'll be speculating on one.

Same here, I plan on getting one tomorrow at noon when they go on sale.

The bright side to this, is that if the price drops, you can just cancel your order with the mint and re-buy at the lower price!

It would be funny how poorly the mint is managed if it wasnt us taxpayers getting shafted.

EE_ 01-21-2009 10:19 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
If they go on sale tommorow, report back here on what time you got through.
I bet I'll be the 1st on GIM to get through!
I'll post my order # minus the last 2 digits.

http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...dkey=ClickInfo

loomanite 01-21-2009 10:40 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hopefully the website is up to the ordering traffic. The last go around for the 3-coin bald eagle commemorative set was an experience. The website was down, meaning you had to call. After nearly two hours I finally got through.

Martian_Time_slip 01-21-2009 09:33 PM

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My guess is they intentionally give themselves some leeway. It's much easier for a customer to accept it sooner than expected rather than later, and as we all know, goldbugs can be some pretty fiesty critters.

AV8R 01-21-2009 10:38 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1522645)
Same here, I plan on getting one tomorrow at noon when they go on sale.

The bright side to this, is that if the price drops, you can just cancel your order with the mint and re-buy at the lower price!

It would be funny how poorly the mint is managed if it wasnt us taxpayers getting shafted.

The mint has limited these double eagles to 1 per house hold, My guess is if you cancel your order, the mint will reject you if you try to place another order. I plan on placing an order tomorrow and just wait (no telling how long for delivery, might be 9 months) Who knows, if gold prices climb, say to $1100 oz. the mint might cancel my order anyway. The mint is not in the business of losing money.

Talah 01-21-2009 10:51 PM

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I really want one of these but I have a hard time paying $1189.00 tomorrow and then waiting 6-9months for my product. I mean it will be a surprise when the coin finally gets here but thats $1189 I could spend on something physical right now.

I would be all about it if they took your name and number and as the coin came off the mint they called every person in order and said 'your coin is ready to ship, would you still like it and if so are you able to pay right now?" If you say no, you go to the back of the line, if you say yes, you pay and get your coin within a week.

CoinNut 01-21-2009 11:19 PM

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I will go for one tomorrow,along with alot of people. Will be made to demand for awhole year. Those that want one, will get it. Like the gold spouse coins(Can get at spot), the demand will lesson and so to the premiums that are about to be charged for these. But no telling what spot will be and these may be cheaper or more costly durning the year. The Mint will raise and lower price for these,weekly I read, durning their ordering/production run. :553:

C&L 1911 01-21-2009 11:37 PM

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Does US Mint accept Credit Cards for coin purchases? If so, I doubt they would actually charge your CC until the coin is ready to ship, so technically you won't have to pay that money until you get your coin anyways. At least that's how all other businesses handle backorders, and this is US Mint we're talking about...

Apocalypto 01-21-2009 11:43 PM

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Incredible coin. I'm buying one. You Americans make the best looking coins on the planet!

Talah 01-22-2009 12:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1524136)
this is US Mint we're talking about...

exactly...

igorthesmall 01-22-2009 07:57 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1524136)
Does US Mint accept Credit Cards for coin purchases? If so, I doubt they would actually charge your CC until the coin is ready to ship, so technically you won't have to pay that money until you get your coin anyways. At least that's how all other businesses handle backorders, and this is US Mint we're talking about...

According to the Mint website, they will charge you at time of shipping.


Quote:

When placing your order, please consider your credit card�s expiration date, as charges will coincide with shipment. If your credit card has expired by the time of shipment, your order will be cancelled.

CoinNut 01-22-2009 11:24 AM

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TODAY 12:00 EST these are for sale........Order time, don't delay

EE_ 01-22-2009 11:48 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1524741)
TODAY 12:00 EST these are for sale........Order time, don't delay

They won't take orders until 12:15, spread the word.:bear_rolleyes:

Cabbage_the_cat 01-22-2009 12:05 PM

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12:05 - mint site has crashed

j-son 01-22-2009 12:07 PM

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just wait til they hit ebay for $1000 each

Bob 01-22-2009 12:07 PM

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And if you call em "We are unable to answer you call at this time. Please try again later."

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabbage_the_cat (Post 1524856)
12:05 - mint site has crashed

Terrible web site.

EE_ 01-22-2009 12:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order is in at 12:05 Order number is 3082XXXX

foolsgold 01-22-2009 12:13 PM

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I canb't get thru by phone...I can't get thru by the web...very frustrating.

That link you posted still says you cannot order this SKU at this time.

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 12:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1524888)
I canb't get thru by phone...I can't get thru by the web...very frustrating.

That link you posted still says you cannot order this SKU at this time.

Go back to the main page and click through the Eagle link... and be prepared to wait. Mine's hanging like there's no tomorrow. Their IT department sucks.

foolsgold 01-22-2009 12:20 PM

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Orders will be processed on a first-in, first-out basis, and could potentially take up to six to nine months to ANSWER YOUR CALL...

just a little levity.

oovyman 01-22-2009 12:35 PM

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My order is in at 12:30 Order number is 308286XX.

AV8R 01-22-2009 12:37 PM

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My order is in. Took a half hour. Pages are real slow loading. Mint web site getting hammered. Order # 308283XX. Says the Double Eagle is Backordered. Anybody have any idea when they will ship?

loomanite 01-22-2009 12:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well, have gotten almost through 3 times only to have it ring and you get the message, "Your party is not answering, please try your call later....." The website is not communicating. The last time I went through this was for the Bald Eagle and it was about the same (the website was down for that too)......

EE_ 01-22-2009 12:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1524931)
Order #308277XX took me a half hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It says product ship date 1/28/09....Will ship free UH3coin box on 2/06/09...:36_1_32v:we will see what happens!
EE you win!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:36_1_34: Yes I did! I got a system.
Did you see the ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK you get for free?
I'm glad you got your's too sweetie! :wink:

So you know, I'm pretty sure the order number started at 30826000.
That will tell you where your order is.
Your order is 1,700 + xx That's pretty good!

Bob 01-22-2009 12:45 PM

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My cart now shows backordered.


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C&L 1911 01-22-2009 12:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
It looks like the orders are piling in. Finally had mine go through at # 308313XX. Backordered with estimated ship date of 2/6/09. We can only hope...

loomanite 01-22-2009 12:57 PM

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Yeah. Got through online. Order Number is 308327XX. You may be able to get their quicker by clicking on:

http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...category=10191


AV8R 01-22-2009 12:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just tracked my order and it's shipping out on 1/28, The book on 2/06. Does anyone know what mint these are coming from,???????
I'm guessing WP

MrRational 01-22-2009 12:59 PM

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I've been trying for an hour, but can't get through. And now I'm logged out due to inactivity. Great.

aclarky 01-22-2009 12:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
It had better be worth it. What a pain in the ass!
I wonder how many of these things have already been produced?
I hope I don't have to wait 6-9 months.
#308283XX

Manager Mr 01-22-2009 01:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1524882)
My order is in at 12:05 Order number is 308265XX

Wow looks like you are a few thousand orders ahead of me 30830xxx

:15_1_70v::biggrin:

mshen11 01-22-2009 01:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
s&h is $10.90

does that sound right? i thought its free for orders above $500 (or even a lesser amount)

i selected standard 1-2 weeks shipping at $4.95... so how are they doing the math?

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 01:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Wow, arduous process. But worth it. Order Number: 308347XX

Bob 01-22-2009 01:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just got in. I think I'm in the backordered section (means I have to hope enough orders are disqualified/cancelled). Order # 308342XX.

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 01:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
By "Backordered" they might only be referring to the 6-9 month wait.

They send an email that says "If for any reason your order cannot be processed, we reserve the right to cancel. If you placed your order under the "wait list" notice, inventory may not be available to fill your order." I don't see anything on my order that says anything about a "wait list".

foolsgold 01-22-2009 01:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Order Number :308361xx

EE why did I receive a free UH3 ??

And what's a UH3 anyway?

Thanks.

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 01:13 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1525006)
Order Number :308361xx

EE why did I receive a free UH3 ??

And what's a UH3 anyway?

Thanks.

It's a free coin book. Bonus!

loomanite 01-22-2009 01:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Wow... What a profitable morning <grin....>
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...3A1%7C294%3A50

EE_ 01-22-2009 01:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1525006)
Order Number :308361xx

EE why did I receive a free UH3 ??

And what's a UH3 anyway?

Thanks.

You are order number 9,600 + xx That's a lot of orders!

MrRational 01-22-2009 01:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Finally got through. Looks like its getting easier now. Order #308386XX

mshen11 01-22-2009 01:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
do we automatically get the coin book? i saw a checkbox for the gift box but nothing about the book.

still trying to checkout.

EE_ 01-22-2009 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRational (Post 1525021)
Finally got through. Looks like its getting easier now. Order #308386XX

You are order 12,600 + XX
These things are selling fast.

mshen11 01-22-2009 01:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
308415xx but didnt get a UH3

EE_ 01-22-2009 01:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
$17,000,000 dollars worth sold so far.

AV8R 01-22-2009 01:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 1524989)
Just got in. I think I'm in the backordered section (means I have to hope enough orders are disqualified/cancelled). Order # 308342XX.

You can Track your order on the mint web site: Just type in your order # and you'll see your ship date, mine shows 1/28 shipping date, maybe we wont have a long wait

ng1469 01-22-2009 01:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got my order in at 12:23 and am order # 308277XX with an expected ship date of 1/28/09. Hopefully they wont just keep pushing the day back more and more till they cancel it.

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 01:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I guess this means I'm on the waiting list?

"Order Status: Your order request has been suspended. "

Wait, there's something else written on the track order screen:

"1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009."


Not sure, we'll see.

j-son 01-22-2009 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1525049)
$17,000,000 dollars worth sold so far.

maybe they can balance the budget soon!

LunarGal 01-22-2009 01:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Order Status: Your order request is on hold. :bear_angry:

CoinNut 01-22-2009 02:08 PM

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:banana: Mine in just before 1:00 :s15: . Looks like 18-20K first 2hrs. BUT demand is slowing, as the site is fast now.

Bob 01-22-2009 02:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1524998)
By "Backordered" they might only be referring to the 6-9 month wait.

They send an email that says "If for any reason your order cannot be processed, we reserve the right to cancel. If you placed your order under the "wait list" notice, inventory may not be available to fill your order." I don't see anything on my order that says anything about a "wait list".

That might be true. I don't know if these items have a fixed mintage or not. Typically on a fixed mintage item (if they only make 10k of them), backordered means you are beyond the order limit but still close enough that they think there is a chance people will cancel and you could get it (ie they overbook and tell you).

There was one year, maybe the 2007 or 2007 burnished blank ASE, where they had tons of orders they had to cancel and leave unfulfilled. Typically though, they are pretty good about filling orders like that.

Regardless, looking at my order status it says (my emphasis):

Order Status: Your order request is on hold.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 In stock and reserved

The last part is reassuring. Honestly, I wouldn't mind putting off paying for these for a while, as long as I get one. So if it ships in 2 months, fine with me.

ng1469 01-22-2009 02:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
What was your order number, mine was 308277XX and my order just got switched to in stock and reserved compared to being on backorder. My order is still on hold, but its looking a little more promising

foolsgold 01-22-2009 02:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1525239)
What was your order number, mine was 308277XX and my order just got switched to in stock and reserved compared to being on backorder. My order is still on hold, but its looking a little more promising

Me to.

Order number: 308361xx went to in stock and reserved, from backordered.

EE_ 01-22-2009 03:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The ebayers are already at it.
Asking 2 and 3 G's for their order.

http://coins.search.ebay.com/2009-ul...0QQsacatZ11116

Bob 01-22-2009 03:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1525273)
The ebayers are already at it.
Asking 2 and 3 G's for their order.

http://coins.search.ebay.com/2009-ul...0QQsacatZ11116

Hey, don't go outing me ;). LOL, I think the same thing happened with the Jefferson Spouse. And then a short while later when they saw the market wasn't as good as they hoped, orders were canceled and returned. This is fairly predictable. Although, to be honest, I have less problem with people selling on eBay than the dealers getting people to order for them to get around the 1 per person limit.


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Real Money Now 01-22-2009 03:44 PM

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:yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee:

Got one! I'm sorry it took so long for you guys. Process took less than 5 minutes.

ng1469 01-22-2009 05:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
LOL at all these people posting there tracking numbers and last names on their E-bay auctions. I just checked one out and IF i wanted to could have canceled their order... How dumb can these people be....

C&L 1911 01-22-2009 05:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1525586)
LOL at all these people posting there tracking numbers and last names on their E-bay auctions. I just checked one out and IF i wanted to could have canceled their order... How dumb can these people be....

That would be awesome! It would also help some of the "legitimate" buyers move up the order list.

madfranks 01-22-2009 06:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Finally hit the site, got mine - order #308591xx. So what is that over 30,000 sold so far? And yes, mine is backordered, but it says expected ship date 02/06/2009.

hernancortes 01-22-2009 06:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Unfortunately they don't let you place to purchase coins in person at the Fulfillment Center, else I'd be one the first ones with possession!
As it was, ordering over the net was total pain in the butt:bear_angry:

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 06:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 1525220)
That might be true. I don't know if these items have a fixed mintage or not. Typically on a fixed mintage item (if they only make 10k of them), backordered means you are beyond the order limit but still close enough that they think there is a chance people will cancel and you could get it (ie they overbook and tell you).

...

Thanks for the info, Bob.

I just checked again, and my order still says "suspended" so I looked in the FAQ and found this:

Question
What does "Your Order is Suspended" mean?

Answer
Orders can be in a temporary status of; suspended (S), error (E) or held (H) during the normal order processing period. If your order is still in one of these statuses after 7 business days, please contact Customer Service at one of the numbers listed below."


I hope there's nothing up with my order. I love this coin. I'll phone them tomorrow and see if I can get through to a warm body and interrogate them.

Ironically, today I received my first 1oz GAE from Gainesville Coin. The shipping was very fast. I've never bought or owned a GAE before. I'm Canadian and I've always only bought Maples. But I love this coin. It's beautiful.

cheers

Bob 01-22-2009 07:14 PM

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I doubt you did anything wrong. I think it's probably just related to the backorder status. I have the same message, and what's the chance were both stupid enough to screw up our orders? Hmm, well don't answer that question. When you do call, post a message though with what you found out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1525795)
Thanks for the info, Bob.

I just checked again, and my order still says "suspended" so I looked in the FAQ and found this:

Question
What does "Your Order is Suspended" mean?

Answer
Orders can be in a temporary status of; suspended (S), error (E) or held (H) during the normal order processing period. If your order is still in one of these statuses after 7 business days, please contact Customer Service at one of the numbers listed below."


I hope there's nothing up with my order. I love this coin. I'll phone them tomorrow and see if I can get through to a warm body and interrogate them.


mick silver 01-22-2009 07:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
just got mine 30860xxx could just get one , i thought you could get as many as you wanted , what happen to that

Apocalypto 01-22-2009 08:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1525914)
just got mine 30860xxx could just get one , i thought you could get as many as you wanted , what happen to that

Some fellows were talking in earlier posts about this. Apparently you can only get one per customer/household or something. The mint apparently knew these things would be popular. And popular they are.

Workaholic 01-22-2009 08:36 PM

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My confirmation email said it was on backorder

wtf?

Workaholic 01-22-2009 08:38 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I think I'll call and tell them I'm minority and I should get mine first

After all, I am a white hetro Christian male

ghaffar23 01-22-2009 08:40 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I had the "backordered" status to the elusive "In stock and reserved", and now to "backordered" status. The US Mint is a classic act...perhaps I will be waiting for r6 to 9 months for all of my merchandise...HAHAHA!

igorthesmall 01-22-2009 08:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got my order in at 1:24 EST. Order number 30838XXX. Backordered and set to ship out on 2/6.

igorthesmall 01-22-2009 08:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1525586)
LOL at all these people posting there tracking numbers and last names on their E-bay auctions. I just checked one out and IF i wanted to could have canceled their order... How dumb can these people be....

LOL. That would be kinda funny, but mean.

ghaffar23 01-22-2009 09:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1526089)
LOL. That would be kinda funny, but mean.

OP should do it just to let these ppl learn to be a little bit smarter...catch 'em while they're :4_8_4v:

HistoryStudent 01-22-2009 09:26 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
No hurry - I fugure (spelling intended!) that 9 short months from now they'll charge YA double or triple of NOW price. :signs14::111::111:

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 01-22-2009 09:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Lets see if the price of gold rises to $1,200ish (soon). Similar to how the price of gold fluctuated around $800ish - between now and when the first Buffalo's hit the streets, and if I remember correctly, the first year Buffalo's, new from the Mint, were about $800, right? :signs1:

It's nice to get lost in a daydream, from time to time.

MrRational 01-22-2009 11:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Going by the order numbers, it looks like the mint sold at least 40k of these today and they are still on sale. If they fill all the orders we're looking at least 60k and possibily ALOT higher mintage.

With a 39% premium over spot price already, I really wonder how much more these things can appreciate with such a high mintage.

BTW, I have no idea why people are already bidding these things up on ebay when they could just buy them direct still.

EE_ 01-23-2009 12:46 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
They are selling for between $1,600 and $1,700 on ebay....that is about a 40% mark-up from the purchase price. If you are 60,000 down the list, there is no telling if and when you'll even get one. Things can go wrong to cause the mint to stop production. A bird in the hand?

Apocalypto 01-23-2009 01:16 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Maybe we should start a poll for people to guess how many they will mint?

EireGoBragh 01-23-2009 01:27 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Since they aren't making any fractionals, maybe that would free up more Au for the UHRDE

ghaffar23 01-23-2009 11:12 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1525060)
I got my order in at 12:23 and am order # 308277XX with an expected ship date of 1/28/09. Hopefully they wont just keep pushing the day back more and more till they cancel it.

Good news. Checked my status and I don't have the infamous "rolling backorder date". It actually stayed on 02-06-2009 as the shipping date. YAY!

ng1469 01-23-2009 11:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well gold went above $890 today and if it goes up $10 more then the price of the coin will jump to $1289. I'll take a $100 profit in a day :)

EE_ 01-23-2009 12:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I imagine the Mint is taking a lot more orders today form people trying to beat the $100 price increase?
What's that saying "he who hesitates, waits"?
The late comers will be waiting until next Christmas to see this coin. :favorites21:

smyles 01-23-2009 02:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm order #308533XX. Still on hold. No problems with the site at all. Guess I missed the mad rush at noon. As long as they don't charge the CC until they ship, I'm in no hurry.

Apocalypto 01-23-2009 02:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1527173)
I don't get the frenzy.
Ultra high relief... woopty-frickin-do.
It's an oz. of gold, people; ebay suckers notwithstanding.

Apparently you're not familiar with the law of supply and demand.

ghaffar23 01-23-2009 02:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
All I can hope for is that my order goes from being held to processed. This is the same thing that happened to my Prosperity Set, GAE 1/10th oz Proofs (which are in stock and reserved, but order is still held), and the UHRDE. Can anyone shed light upon this issue?

Gordon Gekko 01-23-2009 03:24 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just ordered mine. Still saying that they are expected to ship on 2/6/09. We shall see. I'll try not to get impatient, but it will be tough. Order # is 308734XX

HistoryStudent 01-23-2009 06:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1524864)
just wait til they hit ebay for $1000 each

Sadly, I wonder if they might be $2,000 each in perhaps as short as 9 months from now. The PTB that print will easily have doubled or tripled the US money supply by then. So the math is simple therein.

Double the money and double JUST the COMMODITY price(s) everywhere. Water does SEEM to find it's own level. I also wonder if the rationing (via shutdown and low volume) and non-available "blanks" are a way to avoid parting with product that probably is really undervalued right now? I don't know; but I surely WONDER. :thumb.aspx::thumb.aspx::yes::yes::111:

HistoryStudent 01-23-2009 06:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1527639)
Just ordered mine. Still saying that they are expected to ship on 2/6/09. We shall see. I'll try not to get impatient, but it will be tough. Order # is 308734XX

Me TOO! Have other fish to fry in the fire too. :5_1_120::5_1_120::5_1_120::yes::yes::111:


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Proof Like Morgan 01-25-2009 12:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1527535)
Apparently you're not familiar with the law of supply and demand.

I agree. This maybe the case of early bird catches the worm.
Gold is on the rise. I expect $1,000 + oz. spot price very soon on gold IMHO.

If its true that the mint is short on gold blanks,than it was key to order these coins when they were first available. Many people don't want to wait several months for there order to ship. Also the First Strike designation might be huge with this coin. If only the first few thousand orders ship within the 30 day PCGS first strike deadline because of short supply of gold blanks than look out. Expect FS to be double than the issue price if not alot more.

edit to add: Forgot about this.

From Coinworld Online back in December.

**Supplier delays shipment of 30,000 blanks
A delay in the delivery of precious metals blanks leaves U.S. Mint officials uncertain as to when they will be able to start full-scale production of the 2009 Saint-Gaudens, Roman Numerals, Ultra High Relief .9999 fine gold $20 double eagle.**

ghaffar23 01-25-2009 02:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghaffar23 (Post 1527552)
All I can hope for is that my order goes from being held to processed. This is the same thing that happened to my Prosperity Set, GAE 1/10th oz Proofs (which are in stock and reserved, but order is still held), and the UHRDE. Can anyone shed light upon this issue?

I cancelled my 1/10th oz GAE and went on with my UHRDE order...here's the latest word:

Order number: 308316xx

Order Date: 01/22/2009 at 12:48 AM

Order Status: Your order request is in process.


That's better progress, if any. I'll keep you all posted as it comes.

ng1469 01-25-2009 10:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghaffar23 (Post 1530835)
I cancelled my 1/10th oz GAE and went on with my UHRDE order...here's the latest word:

Order number: 308316xx

Order Date: 01/22/2009 at 12:48 AM

Order Status: Your order request is in process.


That's better progress, if any. I'll keep you all posted as it comes.

I ordered mine at 12:23 and was order number 308277XX, looks like they sold close to 4000 in 25min. Wonder how many blanks they have...

hernancortes 01-26-2009 09:41 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Proof Like Morgan (Post 1530264)
I agree. This maybe the case of early bird catches the worm.
Gold is on the rise. I expect $1,000 + oz. spot price very soon on gold IMHO.

If its true that the mint is short on gold blanks,than it was key to order these coins when they were first available. Many people don't want to wait several months for there order to ship. Also the First Strike designation might be huge with this coin. If only the first few thousand orders ship within the 30 day PCGS first strike deadline because of short supply of gold blanks than look out. Expect FS to be double than the issue price if not alot more.

edit to add: Forgot about this.

From Coinworld Online back in December.

**Supplier delays shipment of 30,000 blanks
A delay in the delivery of precious metals blanks leaves U.S. Mint officials uncertain as to when they will be able to start full-scale production of the 2009 Saint-Gaudens, Roman Numerals, Ultra High Relief .9999 fine gold $20 double eagle.**


I feel that too many people are aware of First Strike being a scam for it to have too much of an impact. Be worth a few bucks possibly.

Az Ag 01-26-2009 04:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghaffar23 (Post 1530835)
I cancelled my 1/10th oz GAE and went on with my UHRDE order...here's the latest word:
Order number: 308316xx
Order Date: 01/22/2009 at 12:48 AM
Order Status: Your order request is in process.

That's better progress, if any. I'll keep you all posted as it comes.

My order is # 308297xx and went through at 12:45. The order status shows as "Your order request is on hold.", but the item status shows as "in stock and reserved."

I was concerned that your came in after mine, yet your status was "in process" so I called the Mint. They said not to worry, my order is good. Still, it is bothersome that we would have similarly time-placed orders with different order status.

Andy9999 01-26-2009 07:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1532708)
My order is # 308297xx and went through at 12:45. The order status shows as "Your order request is on hold.", but the item status shows as "in stock and reserved."

I was concerned that your came in after mine, yet your status was "in process" so I called the Mint. They said not to worry, my order is good. Still, it is bothersome that we would have similarly time-placed orders with different order status.

Mine order was placed on 12:15 and I have the same info like you ...
"Your order request is on hold.",

madfranks 01-27-2009 10:17 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just got an email from the mint, they are delaying shipping:

Quote:

We regret to inform you that the item(s) listed below
are currently on backorder. Please expect your item(s)
to arrive within the timeframe listed below.
Track your order at http://catalog.usmint.gov
Thanks again for shopping with the United States Mint.

Order #: 308591xx
Sold To : xxx
Ship To : xxx
Item: UH1 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 2/20/09
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN
Item: UH3 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 2/20/09
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK

C&L 1911 01-27-2009 10:19 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1534128)
Just got an email from the mint, they are delaying shipping:

I got the same email, except my est. ship date is 2/11. However, when I check my order status on-line, it shows 2/6; yesterday, it was showing 2/10. :confused_ma:

foolsgold 01-27-2009 10:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Same here ....almost

Order #: 30836xxx - 1
Sold To :
Ship To :
Item: UH1 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 2/11/09 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN
Item: UH3 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 2/11/09 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK

foolsgold 01-27-2009 10:22 AM

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Yes our government dollars hard at work....yes sir.:111:

Bill57 01-27-2009 10:31 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just received my email from the mint pushing my date back from Jan. 28 to Feb. 6.
Now I'm wondering if they are going to push it back another week every week!

CoinNut 01-27-2009 10:31 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1534132)
I got the same email, except my est. ship date is 2/11. However, when I check my order status on-line, it shows 2/6; yesterday, it was showing 2/10. :confused_ma:

Same here:s15:.......Instead of e-mails everyday, just send one,expected ship by 12/31/09:confused_m:.....Well, Our price is locked in anyway.

Apocalypto 01-27-2009 10:43 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got an email as well.

My Exp Ship went from 2/06/09 to 2/11/09

But when I check the online tracking I see: Order Status: Your order request has been suspended.

My suspicion is - in typical government style - the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Amazing how such an inept organization can make such a nice coin.

ghaffar23 01-27-2009 12:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I woke up, checked my email as well...says my order got pushed back to 2/11 as well. A few hours later, checked on the US Mint page and it has both my coin and book pushed up to 2/6 shipping date! Don't know what to believe anymore...hoping for the best, expecting the worst.

The real question comes approximately 24 hours from now. Will those who were fortunate enough to squeeze an order within the 1/28 order date...will they actually get shipped tomorrow? Time will tell...

Caligula 01-27-2009 12:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRational (Post 1526394)
With a 39% premium over spot price already, I really wonder how much more these things can appreciate with such a high mintage.

Not much.

I am done with the mint.

The silver Bald Eagles have actually gone down since I bought them.

Mint products suck.

Andy9999 01-27-2009 12:24 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1534158)
Just received my email from the mint pushing my date back from Jan. 28 to Feb. 6.
Now I'm wondering if they are going to push it back another week every week!

same here Feb 6 2009 is new shipping date

madfranks 01-27-2009 02:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1534177)
My suspicion is - in typical government style - the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Amazing how such an inept organization can make such a nice coin.

I wouldn't credit the mint for making such a nice coin - I would attribute that to Mr. St Gaudens himself. He's the designer/creator of the high relief coin, no way in hell the modern mint could design anything that could stand up to this.

Gordon Gekko 01-27-2009 02:14 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got the email today at 7:39am (pretty darn early). They are telling me that it is shipping on 2/20/09. The catch is they are saying it's the "expected" ship date. We'll see if it really ships on the 20th.

Apocalypto 01-27-2009 05:06 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1534589)
I wouldn't credit the mint for making such a nice coin - I would attribute that to Mr. St Gaudens himself. He's the designer/creator of the high relief coin, no way in hell the modern mint could design anything that could stand up to this.

Thanks for the info. This St Gaudens fellow has style!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1534600)
I got the email today at 7:39am (pretty darn early). They are telling me that it is shipping on 2/20/09. The catch is they are saying it's the "expected" ship date. We'll see if it really ships on the 20th.

Mr. Gekko, I think at this point anything is possible. My expectations will be met as long as I get one at all.

Gordon Gekko 01-27-2009 05:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1534958)
Thanks for the info. This St Gaudens fellow has style!



Mr. Gekko, I think at this point anything is possible. My expectations will be met as long as I get one at all.

I agree. I am just afraid of growing impatient. I keep looking at pictures of the coin and it is driving me nuts not having it. This will be a test of my patience. Hopefully it ships out on 2/20/09 like they are telling me. I would be very happy with that scenario.

Postman01 01-27-2009 05:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got the same email saying it got pushed back to 2/20. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

1981 01-27-2009 05:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Man, after reading about the trouble you guys are having, I shudder to think about the folks who haven't even gotten in line yet. I don't really want one of these things, but I thought perhaps the mint would catch up later this year after the hype had died down, and I might think about it then. But it's beginning to look like the mint is behind the eight ball and will be playing catch up all year.

Martian_Time_slip 01-27-2009 06:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Can't really say I'm surprised. You go to perth mint, canadian mint, etc, and you see silver and gold everywhere. Go to US Mint, and 90% of what you see are copper-clad, bronze, junk nickels, pennies, and dollar coins that aren't worth what they're made of. Anything with any decent value has a 30-40% premium. Don't tell me something isn't going on....

ng1469 01-27-2009 06:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got my e-mail at like 5AM and it says my order is on backorder and the expected ship date is 2/06. I ordered mine 23 min after it went on sale...... Kinda crazy how well they were prepared for this.... :banghead:

AV8R 01-27-2009 07:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Mint regrets to inform me my double eagle is back ordered from 1/28 expected to ship 2/06. Order 2 from a relative is backed up from 2/06 to 2/20. I wonder if anybody will get shipped out on 1/28...Order #308283XX and 308669XX

Gordon Gekko 01-29-2009 05:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1534984)
I agree. I am just afraid of growing impatient. I keep looking at pictures of the coin and it is driving me nuts not having it. This will be a test of my patience. Hopefully it ships out on 2/20/09 like they are telling me. I would be very happy with that scenario.

*Update*

I went to track my order today, and it is saying that the coin is going to ship on 2/6/09, instead of 2/20/09 that the email said a few days ago. It is also saying that the coin book is going to ship on 2/20/09. Straaaange...

Postman01 01-29-2009 05:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just checked my order status too. It says the same thing. Expected to ship on 2/6 with the book on the 2/20....Very wierd...Just get here!!!!

grinningdog 01-29-2009 06:06 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just checked mine order number30830xxx and it says in stock and reserved. It show the book has a ship date of 2-6-09. Wonder what in stock and reserved means as to a ship date?

Workaholic 01-29-2009 09:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
You Suck


















just kidding!!

EireGoBragh 01-29-2009 10:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hey for you guys that ordered the UHRDE, opening day...what were they listed for? Did the mint raise the price on them today?


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C&L 1911 01-29-2009 10:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EireGoBragh (Post 1539123)
Hey for you guys that ordered the UHRDE, opening day...what were they listed for? Did the mint raise the price on them today?

Yes, they went up by $50 today.

Merlin 01-29-2009 10:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I cancelled my order. If I want physical gold, the Ultra High Relief isn't the way to buy it. So, someone else will get the coin I had on order. As much as I would have liked to own the coin, it's too rich for my blood. You guys are always complaining about premiums. This one is pretty rich!

EireGoBragh 01-29-2009 10:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1539132)
Yes, they went up by $50 today.

Thanks....thought so, at first I'd thought I'd lost my mind....looking at the GAE's, they increased too.......

Apocalypto 01-29-2009 11:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1539140)
I cancelled my order. If I want physical gold, the Ultra High Relief isn't the way to buy it. So, someone else will get the coin I had on order. As much as I would have liked to own the coin, it's too rich for my blood. You guys are always complaining about premiums. This one is pretty rich!

Well, my hope is that the premium rises over time. I wish you luck, but my guess is that you may regret canceling your order a year from now.

At any rate, my order status is also changed. It now says Order Status: Your order request is on hold. And the ship date is Expected to ship on 02/06/2009. Book and coin.

Just a confirmation from someone, I am 99% sure of this but want the other 1%... 2009 is the only year they plan on minting this UHR version of the coin?

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 12:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1539259)
Well, my hope is that the premium rises over time. I wish you luck, but my guess is that you may regret canceling your order a year from now.

At any rate, my order status is also changed. It now says Order Status: Your order request is on hold. And the ship date is Expected to ship on 02/06/2009. Book and coin.

Just a confirmation from someone, I am 99% sure of this but want the other 1%... 2009 is the only year they plan on minting this UHR version of the coin?

http://www.coinnews.net/2008/11/24/2...oduction-4548/

"The gold pieces are set for an unlimited mintage and will be sold only in 2009, unless inventory remains for 2010."

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 12:06 AM

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Also,

http://www.coinnews.net/2009/01/22/2...-on-fire-4685/

"The Mint’s opening price for the gold piece is set at $1,189.00, plus $4.95 for shipping and handling. The one-ounce coin is struck in 24-karat, .9999 fine gold and is limited to a single year of issue. Striking is the coin’s more than double thickness when compared to other modern gold coins from the Mint. "

Apocalypto 01-30-2009 12:38 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Thanks, Mr. Gekko. Also, I didn't know about that site. It's a great one, thanks. Just noted that it's only 27mm wide, such a compact little sucker. It would be super cool to have a larger one, like GAE size!

Also, who's in for the palladium model? "In 2010, palladium versions of the famous design will be struck..."

EE_ 01-30-2009 12:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1539331)
Thanks, Mr. Gekko. Also, I didn't know about that site. It's a great one, thanks. Just noted that it's only 27mm wide, such a compact little sucker. It would be super cool to have a larger one, like GAE size!

Also, who's in for the palladium model? "In 2010, palladium versions of the famous design will be struck..."

This coin is the same diameter as a 1/2 oz gold eagle, 27mm
A one ounce gold eagle is 33.7mm
A 1933 double eagle is 34.1mm
Now why didn't they mint it to the same diameter as the 1933?
I think the thick rim was meant to protect the relief, but this coin will always be in some type of capsule. Why they didn't just special make a capsule for it, I don't know?

Apocalypto 01-30-2009 01:27 AM

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Here's an interesting quote from that link posted by Mr. Gekko:

"Maintaining the full artistic integrity of the Saint-Gaudens design was an arduous undertaking in 1907. The United States Mint’s first attempt-a 34-millimeter ultra-high relief coin with Roman numerals-required the coins to be ‘squeezed’ into a press and annealed numerous times. The coining process was impractical for mass production, and approximately 19 coins of this variety are known to exist. These coins are now mostly in private ownership."

I just looked this up in my "Gold Rush" coin book (Arlyn Sieber), and if I'm not mistaken, these coins are now worth $150,000. (If I am reading correctly.)

hernancortes 01-30-2009 10:53 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Last year Silvertowne had one in their display case in I'd guess EF-40 for $12K

Khaos 01-30-2009 02:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Some folks might find this article interesting. This may be common knowledge for old coin nuts but I am still pretty new to this, I found it quite interesting. Check out the part about the original 1907 UHR Saints...
http://coins.about.com/od/uscoins/a/uhr_saints.htm

This is also pretty cool...World's Most Valuable Coin
http://coins.about.com/od/famousrare...Gold_Eagle.htm

BTW I got my order in at 12:16 and order has been pushed back to 2/6 like everyone else.

ng1469 01-30-2009 04:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
This is the new status of my coin now... They didn't send me a new email stating the new ship date. The email that i received had a ship date of 02/06... If it doesn't ship by the 18th i think i'm just going to cancel my order.


2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00
1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/14/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00
1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.

Manager Mr 01-30-2009 04:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Yeah my order was pushed back as well 308303xx (02-14-09)
Plus side to this, coin is now paid for, just collecting points on my CC:biggrin:

Kind of odd that In-laws 308484xx still showing a date of (02-06-09):favorites21:

1981 01-30-2009 05:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1540613)
This is the new status of my coin now... They didn't send me a new email stating the new ship date. The email that i received had a ship date of 02/06... If it doesn't ship by the 18th i think i'm just going to cancel my order.

Don't do that! You'll lose your place in line and be doing this number :banghead: when the mint cancels the program in March and these things are going for $5k on ebay.

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 06:06 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order number is 308734XX. Just out of curiousity, do you guys think it's a possibility that I may never even get my coin? I don't mind about waiting a few months to get it, but I at least want to get it! I know I ordered pretty late in the day when they were first available. Thanks a lot guys.

Apocalypto 01-30-2009 06:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1540754)
My order number is 308734XX. Just out of curiousity, do you guys think it's a possibility that I may never even get my coin? I don't mind about waiting a few months to get it, but I at least want to get it! I know I ordered pretty late in the day when they were first available. Thanks a lot guys.

Mr Gekko, my guess is you'll get the coin, but it might be delayed due to a lack of available blanks.

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1540777)
Mr Gekko, my guess is you'll get the coin, but it might be delayed due to a lack of available blanks.

Gotcha. Thank you for your help Apocalypto. Can't wait to get this beauty!

ng1469 01-30-2009 06:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order number is 307277XX, and i ordered at 12:23. I wonder if anyone will get there coin before 02/14 guess we will just have to wait and see

foolsgold 01-30-2009 08:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order status just changed this evening to....


Order number: 30836xxx

Order Date: 01/22/2009 at 01:11 PM

Order Status: Your order request is in process.


2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.

Andy9999 01-30-2009 09:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
They pushed back my order from Feb 6 to Feb 14

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 01-30-2009 09:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 09:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1541111)
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

We need pics!!!!!!!!!

EE_ 01-30-2009 09:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1541111)
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

Seein is believin

Gordon Gekko 01-30-2009 10:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1541129)
Seein is believin

No kidding. I might have to call B.S. on this one. :signs14:

1981 01-30-2009 10:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-1667...7CC07D2F114%7D

Sorry SirSilverOzzyyzzO, that's 15 yards for getting us all excited and then not posting pics:biggrin:

lumpOgold 01-30-2009 10:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Overcoming this $300 premium will require holding these coins for a LONG time. I can't justify buying one of these at this time. You would still be better off buying 1/10th oz GAE's at that premium if you ever hope to get your money back.

I invest in GOLD and not in the hope that these will go up someday. I'll wait and pick one up in the future when someone that got overextended buying them has to dump them.

1981 01-30-2009 11:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1541249)
Overcoming this $300 premium will require holding these coins for a LONG time. I can't justify buying one of these at this time. You would still be better off buying 1/10th oz GAE's at that premium if you ever hope to get your money back.

I invest in GOLD and not in the hope that these will go up someday. I'll wait and pick one up in the future when someone that got overextended buying them has to dump them.

I wouldn't say that, This guy sold four for about $200 more than he paid and he probably doesn't even have them yet!

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270329613017

Apocalypto 01-30-2009 11:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1541249)
Overcoming this $300 premium will require holding these coins for a LONG time. I can't justify buying one of these at this time. You would still be better off buying 1/10th oz GAE's at that premium if you ever hope to get your money back.

I invest in GOLD and not in the hope that these will go up someday. I'll wait and pick one up in the future when someone that got overextended buying them has to dump them.

I just bought this coin 8 days ago for $1189.00 and now it's selling for $1,239.00. Ergo, I made $50 in 8 days. I don't need to hope it's going to go up. It already has.

ng1469 01-30-2009 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1541111)
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

I'm gunna call BS too. From what i hear the order #'s started at around 20726000 , that makes me about 1700 or so on the order list and mine aint here yet with expedited shipping!

ng1469 01-31-2009 12:55 AM

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AND NOW>>>>>>>

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00
1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00
1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.

I wish they would make up there mind already!


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Gordon Gekko 01-31-2009 12:14 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1541111)
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

Still waiting on photographic evidence.

madfranks 01-31-2009 12:14 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The mint just cancelled my order - has this happened to anyone else yet? Now if I want one I will need to re-order on their website and pay the extra $50 price hike. I haven't made up my mind if I want to continue playing or just buy something else. And no, they didn't cancel it because of lack of funds, I honestly don't know why, but it is cancelled.

Also, I just read in my numismatic news that the mint will be readjusting prices on this coin every week until they ship.

Gordon Gekko 01-31-2009 12:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1541856)
The mint just cancelled my order - has this happened to anyone else yet? Now if I want one I will need to re-order on their website and pay the extra $50 price hike. I haven't made up my mind if I want to continue playing or just buy something else. And no, they didn't cancel it because of lack of funds, I honestly don't know why, but it is cancelled.

Also, I just read in my numismatic news that the mint will be readjusting prices on this coin every week until they ship.

Are you serious???? Why on earth would they just cancel your order like that? That is ridiculous. Now I am worried because I ordered mine a while after you ordered yours. Great...

LunarGal 01-31-2009 03:39 PM

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Is anyone else still on hold? I have a ship date of 02/06 but status is still on hold.

Gordon Gekko 01-31-2009 03:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LunarGal (Post 1542081)
Is anyone else still on hold? I have a ship date of 02/06 but status is still on hold.

My order is still on hold. Ship date still says 2/06/09 for the coin and 2/20/09 for the book. I am just kind of worried that my order will get canceled like the above poster's. I ordered pretty late in the game. My order number is 308734XX

AV8R 01-31-2009 04:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got my order in at 12:30 first day. Just tracked my order: shows "order request is in process" expected to ship 2/06. Several Early birds here had ship dates of 1/28, so their orders are shipped. Early birds will have coins in hand Monday.

ng1469 01-31-2009 07:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Is there any confirmed that they shipped out on the 28th?

Apocalypto 01-31-2009 08:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
In re to the fellow who had his order canceled... (madfranks) It is possible that a nefarious individual could cancel your order. You may want to check into that. To track the order at the mint's site you only require the order number and last name. On the next screen that comes up you see a check box to cancel the order. I'm not sure what happens after you check that box and click OK (if it immediately cancels the order or takes you to another screen to further verify your identity, for example.)


In a previous post someone mentioned an ebayer who showed his order number in his ad. (not a good idea) Some were speculating that if you can then find this guy's last name (not hard to do) you can possibly cancel the order.

If it does immediately cancel the order, that's a weakness in the mint's order system and they need to address that.

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 01-31-2009 11:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Of course I was jokin, I just wanted to inject a little adrenaline into your veins. I'm still waitin just like the rest of you lads.:banana:

Gordon Gekko 02-01-2009 09:35 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1542665)
Of course I was jokin, I just wanted to inject a little adrenaline into your veins. I'm still waitin just like the rest of you lads.:banana:

That's just not cool. Not cool at all. :no_ma:

ng1469 02-02-2009 09:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Yep, i got the same email too.......

Gordon Gekko 02-02-2009 10:00 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I have yet to get that email ^^^^

madfranks 02-02-2009 11:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I decided not to re-order just because my gut tells me that it will be lots of delays and price increases. Plus I had just visited my dealer and found some nice gold at reasonable prices (a Jefferson 1/2 oz first spouse and some 1/10 GAE) - I guess I would rather have it in hand now than deal with the hassles. I hope it works out for everyone else who is sticking with it.

1981 02-02-2009 11:38 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Don't worry madfranks, there's a chance that all of this hype will die down in four or five months, and then you and me will be able to waltz in and buy our UHRDE's and get 'em in 2 days with expidited shipping.

AV8R 02-02-2009 12:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just received my second delay. supposed to ship on 2/17. Looks to me like the mint has not started production of these coins. I expect to receive more delay emails and then finally the cancellation notice. It would not surprise me if the mint just scraps this program due to a "shortage of gold blanks" maybe they see $2000 gold on the horizon.

1981 02-02-2009 02:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I recently ordered an 8-8-08 prosperity set, and it is now delayed until 02/17/09 just like your UHRDEs. Maybe the problem is not with the UHRDE's so much as it is with the mint's processing operation. The prosperity sets shouldn�t be effected by the supply of coins, since all of the coins should already have been made months ago. Yet they are delayed to the same ship date as the UHRDEs. Go figure.

Bill57 02-02-2009 03:15 PM

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Well, I received my second email pushing the date further into February. First expected to ship on Jan. 28, then on Feb. 6. Now, February 17. I hope it dosen't happen, but if they cancel me, I shall cancel them...forever.

LunarGal 02-02-2009 06:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
No email update. Just checked online and mine is also set for the 17th now. On the plus side my order is now in process instead of on hold. bancha

HistoryStudent 02-02-2009 06:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
In 9 months they will sell for $3,000 each - they call it RATIONING! :signs14::111::111::yes::yes:

Bill57 02-03-2009 10:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well, another day and yet another email from the Mint. Now, expected delivery is Feb. 18 instead of Feb.17, instead of Feb.6, rather than the original date of Jan. 28!!

foolsgold 02-03-2009 10:44 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1546867)
Well, another day and yet another email from the Mint. Now, expected delivery is Feb. 18 instead of Feb.17, instead of Feb.6, rather than the original date of Jan. 28!!

Me too.

Does anybody else still have an earlier arrival date?

If so what's your order number (approx)....thanks.

ng1469 02-03-2009 10:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order status on the website still says Feb 06 as a backorder date, but i got the same email this morning. I'm guessing the website is just as slow as the mint

igorthesmall 02-03-2009 12:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I think their plan is to sell everyone some gold coins, take the money, and then have the government confiscate the gold. It will be easy to do because they dont ever plan on sending us our coins!

(thats just a joke I made up, please dont pass it around as a conspiracy)

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 02-03-2009 08:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1541111)
Came home to see my coin had arrived. I was like 3010ish or so.

This time it's fow weal... :15_1_70v:

Talah 02-03-2009 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1548100)
This time it's fow weal... :15_1_70v:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :cry1::cry1::cry1:

ng1469 02-03-2009 09:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1548100)
This time it's fow weal... :15_1_70v:

And again, pics or no1 will believe it

EE_ 02-03-2009 09:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Okay, here's the latest. Watch!
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6639545
They made 29,000

C&L 1911 02-03-2009 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1548190)
Okay, here's the latest. Watch!
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6639545
They made 29,000

So, orders up to around 30854999 have a fairly good chance of getting their coins sooner or later.

:565:

Workaholic 02-03-2009 09:59 PM

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It looks like I will be out for the first run

30862xxx

:thumpdown:bear_cry::bawling:

bad things happen to good people

Bill57 02-03-2009 11:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
So how does the 29,000 correlate to the order numbers 308xxxxx?


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EE_ 02-03-2009 11:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1548515)
So how does the 29,000 correlate to the order numbers 308xxxxx?

30826000 is where they start. Do the math.
As the numbers go up, other orders are added in, so the first day is somewhat accurate.

ghaffar23 02-04-2009 02:40 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Now here's the problem. That article stated that ~30,000 were made, but there are orders up to around 43,000. This ~30,000 is referring to...is it the same 30,000 that the US Mint had delays obtaining back in Dec? If so, will they ship out this first 30,000, or will they wait until everyone can get a coin? I've received e-mails changing my shipping dates later (2/18), then backwards (2/13), and finally back onto the original 6th of February. I really am itching to have this coin in my hands!

Oh, RE: the 'unlimited' mintage, with the way the US Mint is handling GOLD releases (or lack thereof), I highly doubt that something like .9999 will be unlimited this year. They barely have the 2009 GAE bullion out. No 'W' anything in sight...not even in the product schedule. 2009 will be a very memorable and hard year for many.

FWIW, my order # is 30831XXX

Apocalypto 02-04-2009 03:26 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1548190)
Okay, here's the latest. Watch!
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6639545
They made 29,000

Awesome! Thanks for the update, EE. I'm in the 8000's.

Bill57 02-04-2009 09:10 AM

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If the mint had 29.000 made and ready to ship, and my order number is only 3000 above the starting number of 30826000, why didn't they pack mine up and send it? They have changed my shipping date twice since the original Jan. 28 date they gave me!

Manager Mr 02-04-2009 09:29 AM

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Anyone submitting this coin to PCGS, before 02-21-09... If so how does one go about doing so??:dontknow:

Ok at PCGS website now reading how to submit a coin.

There are two ways you can submit coins to PCGS for grading and authentication. We recommend you submit your coins through a PCGS Authorized Dealer. If you prefer to submit them directly, you can join the PCGS Collectors Club. http://www.pcgs.com/submission.html

which is better???

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 02-04-2009 03:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1548164)
And again, pics or no1 will believe it

You guys are making this a lot of fun. I don't have mine yet, but I did click, paste, and doctor up the picture from the mint. I almost put it up as proof. It would have dupped you all. However, here is how my latest info looks:


<table width="98%" bgcolor="#e5eaef" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td scope="row" valign="middle" align="left" height="19">888 PRODUCT - 1/2 OZ GOLD UNC AND AE BUF</td> <td valign="middle" align="left" height="19"> 3</td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$1,125.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$3,375.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="center" height="19"> Line was cancelled.</td> </tr><tr> <td scope="row" valign="middle" align="left" height="19">2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN</td> <td valign="middle" align="left" height="19"> 1</td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$1,189.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$1,189.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="center" height="19">In stock and reserved</td> <td valign="middle" align="center" height="19">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td scope="row" valign="middle" align="left" height="19">2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK</td> <td valign="middle" align="left" height="19"> 1</td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="right" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td valign="middle" align="center" height="19">1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.</td></tr></tbody></table>
Notice the coin is in stock and reserved - I got through within the first hour. So, why not just send it! Now, notice my half ounce GAE and Buffalo order. When I ordered them they were in stock. Then, placed them on back order, so I cancelled. Point is, dey r scuweey and all messed up.

madfranks 02-04-2009 03:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I was curious about why the mint cancelled my order and nobody elses, so I decided to give them a call. They told me they cancelled my order because I ordered two and they have a strict "one per household" limit. Well, I didn't order two, I only ordered one. After the mint rep couldn't find the other coin I had supposedly ordered he told me to feel free to re-order from the mint website, but I don't think I will - I'm tired of the hassle.

EE_ 02-04-2009 04:18 PM

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Looks like the UHR's are going up to $1,289 tomorrow, and the Double Prosperity's to $1,225
Sh!t's getting expensive!

1981 02-04-2009 04:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1549898)
Looks like the UHR's are going up to $1,289 tomorrow, and the Double Prosperity's to $1,225
Sh!t's getting expensive!

I'm not sure, these items are still available for ordering on the Mint's website. When they decide to change the price, don't they take it down midday Wed. and then put it back up 8 AM Thurs.? Right now they're not sticking to their pattern for a price adjustment.

EE_ 02-04-2009 04:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1549907)
I'm not sure, these items are still available for ordering on the Mint's website. When they decide to change the price, don't they take it down midday Wed. and then put it back up 8 AM Thurs.? Right now they're not sticking to their pattern for a price adjustment.

I guess we'll see tomorrow?
The Double Prosperity sets should be gone very soon.

EE_ 02-04-2009 06:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The UHR will be repriced tomorrow. $1,289
I'm hearing that dealers are saying this will be the finest coin ever to be produced by the mint, and if you are lucky to get a first strike 70...the coin is expected to be priced to $5,000 on the first day.
I talked to PCGS, and I'm told they have designed a new slab for this coin that holds it up on prongs to fully see the edge. He called it a tripod.
No date has yet been released by them as to the beginnig of "first strikes".

AV8R 02-04-2009 07:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The Burning Question Is: If 29000 pieces have been minted, why is the mint sitting on these coins?

HistoryStudent 02-04-2009 07:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
RATIONING! Perhaps? That way in NINE months they will QUADUPLE the PRICE like an OBAMA Bailout of the MINT! :signs14::111::111: Just having some truthful fun. :signs14:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AV8R (Post 1550216)
The Burning Question Is: If 29000 pieces have been minted, why is the mint sitting on these coins?

PS I love your "saying" by General Lee. too bad MOST Americans can not remember a sentence much less read the most important document for their future liberty. Perhaps we'll get LUCKY and go back to the ORIGINAL founding fathers' IDEAS.

1981 02-05-2009 09:43 AM

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Here's a picture of the NGC holder. And before you ask, yes, this is a picture I took of the physical coin I have had in My posession since 1/28/09 and just got back from the grading company. ;)


http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/file...8_110822_m.jpg

Not really, JK

Bill57 02-05-2009 10:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I almost missed the disclaimer at the end. Almost had me fooled!

foolsgold 02-05-2009 10:50 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1551238)
Here's a picture of the NGC holder. And before you ask, yes, this is a picture I took of the physical coin I have had in My posession since 1/28/09 and just got back from the grading company. ;)


http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/file...8_110822_m.jpg

Congratulations on your coin....It is beautiful!































Not really:banana:

EE_ 02-05-2009 10:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1551238)
Here's a picture of the NGC holder. And before you ask, yes, this is a picture I took of the physical coin I have had in My posession since 1/28/09 and just got back from the grading company. ;)


http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/file...8_110822_m.jpg

I'll give you $3,000 for that coin right now!
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really! :yes:

1981 02-05-2009 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1551418)
I'll give you $3,000 for that coin right now!
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really! :yes:


Boy howdy, I'd give myself $3000 for that coin right now. Can you imagine if I could put that bad boy on ebay? I'd start the bidding at $5,500 w/ a BIN of $7,500 and probably sell it toady!

foolsgold 02-05-2009 11:02 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hey I went to in-stock and reserved....I been there before:rant:

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 In stock and reserved
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.


Can't wait til I go in the mail out the door.....Hey USMint get off youra$$ and do some work.

foolsgold 02-05-2009 11:13 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I refreshed the page 5 minutes later and this is what I see....This is not a joke.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.



Our tax dollars at work.

1981 02-05-2009 11:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1551460)
I refreshed the page 5 minutes later and this is what I see....This is not a joke.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.



Our tax dollars at work.

This is ridiculous. I suggest we all go see the Wizard, because the Mint is obviously lost in Oz someplace.

Andy9999 02-05-2009 01:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1551507)
This is ridiculous. I suggest we all go see the Wizard, because the Mint is obviously lost in Oz someplace.

I see the same info :36_1_28:

HistoryStudent 02-05-2009 04:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
:yes::111::111:banchabancha:banana::banana::5_1_12 0::5_1_120::15_1_70v::15_1_70v::signs14::signs14:T omorrow they ship me ONE little coin for MUCHO dinero!

HistoryStudent 02-05-2009 04:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1551238)
Here's a picture of the NGC holder. And before you ask, yes, this is a picture I took of the physical coin I have had in My posession since 1/28/09 and just got back from the grading company. ;)


http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/file...8_110822_m.jpg

Not really, JK

I'll give you a grand for it!:111::111: Just kidding.:thumb.aspx: It's REAL PRETTY!

Postman01 02-05-2009 04:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
As of today my order status went from being "On hold" to "In Process" my expected ship date is still 2/06 with the book for 2/20? I called the mint on Tuesday and the lady was clueless when they were shipping she did stress though when I mentiond it says expeceted ship date of 2/06 she said "expected" it could be a while longer but she was not sure.....This is brutal just deliver it!!!!

Gordon Gekko 02-05-2009 05:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My already delayed shipped date was bumped back to 3/6/09. I know I was a little late to the party, but come on already!! I need this baby in my hand!

foolsgold 02-05-2009 09:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I live near West Point Mint....Check out the pictures of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin from the local paper.

pictures...

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...=205018&Ref=PH

Article....
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc.../NEWS/90205039

foolsgold 02-05-2009 09:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Check out the pics

http://goldismoney.info/forums/pictu...&pictureid=489

foolsgold 02-05-2009 11:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://goldismoney.info/forums/pictu...&pictureid=491

kiwi_envoy 02-06-2009 06:46 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just received my 3rd email from the US Mint that my UHR coin is delays to mid March.

I ordered mine on the day it was released.

Anyone got theirs yet?


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Gordon Gekko 02-06-2009 08:22 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_envoy (Post 1553166)
I just received my 3rd email from the US Mint that my UHR coin is delays to mid March.

I ordered mine on the day it was released.

Anyone got theirs yet?

Are you referring to the email or the coin? Because, I definitely got the third email as well this morning telling me that it's bumped back until 3/13/09. This is getting really old.

HistoryStudent 02-06-2009 08:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Item: UH1 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 3/06/09
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN
Item: UH3 Qty: 1 Exp Ship: 3/06/09
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK
************************************************** ***

Ordered two hours after the realease.


Rationing the ONLY ONE they allow is easily accomplished - :111::111::yes::yes:

1981 02-06-2009 09:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Boy, in the pics above this coin looks pretty rough.

Bullionaire 02-06-2009 10:35 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1552038)
I'll give you a grand for it!:111::111: Just kidding.:thumb.aspx: It's REAL PRETTY!

Look at the serial number 1234567-01 it is an NGC prototype holder with photo added



BULL SHIT you do not have coin, suibmit pic with it in t your hand

C&L 1911 02-06-2009 10:37 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullionaire (Post 1553448)
Look at the serial number 1234567-01 it is an NGC prototype holder with photo added



BULL SHIT you do not have coin, suibmit pic with it in t your hand

Wow, good catch! He had us all fooled here; glad you caught it. :sarc:

bancha

foolsgold 02-06-2009 10:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullionaire (Post 1553448)

BULL SHIT you do not have coin, suibmit pic with it in t your hand

http://goldismoney.info/forums/pictu...&pictureid=492

Bullionaire 02-06-2009 10:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
It would take two weeks turnaround ....mailing time, processing time, return time thru mail......NGC is notoriously slow.

Bullionaire 02-06-2009 10:40 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
How did you get it out of that NGC holder so quickly?


LOL

lumpOgold 02-06-2009 10:45 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullionaire (Post 1553448)
Look at the serial number 1234567-01 it is an NGC prototype holder with photo added



BULL SHIT you do not have coin, suibmit pic with it in t your hand

1981 did add the small line at the bottom, perhaps you missed that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1551238)
Here's a picture of the NGC holder. And before you ask, yes, this is a picture I took of the physical coin I have had in My posession since 1/28/09 and just got back from the grading company. ;)


[IMG]snip[/IMG]

Not really, JK


1981 02-06-2009 11:24 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1553471)
1981 did add the small line at the bottom, perhaps you missed that.


Thanks lumpOgold. :23_1_22: I almost didn't add the disclaimer cause I thought the whole statement was too outrageous to be believable. Even with the disclaimer I got slammed! But that's the problem with the written word, it doesn't carry inflection or :sarc: very well!

HistoryStudent 02-06-2009 12:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullionaire (Post 1553464)
How did you get it out of that NGC holder so quickly?


LOL

He's REAL quick - right? :111::111::yes:

Az Ag 02-06-2009 11:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just thought I would pass along what the Mint says about my UHR coin status. They say the coin is in stock and reserved, and that the book is expected to ship out on Feb 6th. That is today. It says no tracking number is available, which indicates to me the book wasn't shipped, and neither was the coin.

Therefore, I am starting to believe that the coin may be "in stock and reserved", but not necessarily reserved for me. It is probably reserved for Obama. :thumb.aspx:

By the way, my coin was ordered at 12:45 and was approximately the 3800th coin purchased (and reserved for Obama).

ng1469 02-06-2009 11:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well i ordered at 12:23 and have the same status, was really hoping it would ship out today.. oh well

AV8R 02-07-2009 04:26 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
2/06 has come and gone. I was expected to ship, but the mint in all its wisdom is still sitting on my double eagle. With the weekend now, nothing will ship till monday

dumbnbroke 02-07-2009 04:36 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
one thing I have learned in buying over the last year is that one good indicator that your purchase is finally going to ship is when the cancel option disappears from the website status screen. until that cancel disappears a whole range of things can happen from dates pushed back to cancellation. however I have never had a coin arrive more than 8 days after the cancel option dropped, some the 2nd day after. I take it as the best indicator as to what is up with my order despite all the other info.

diversified2 02-07-2009 04:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Good info dumbnbroke:ARMS1:

HistoryStudent 02-07-2009 01:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbnbroke (Post 1555291)
one thing I have learned in buying over the last year is that one good indicator that your purchase is finally going to ship is when the cancel option disappears from the website status screen. until that cancel disappears a whole range of things can happen from dates pushed back to cancellation. however I have never had a coin arrive more than 8 days after the cancel option dropped, some the 2nd day after. I take it as the best indicator as to what is up with my order despite all the other info.

Good common sense observation - D&B. Now if the US Mint would just like to supply the demand and make 33% for its MINOR work - well, that would be grand. However, we do have a problem HOUSTON in that the supply AIN'T up to making the the demand. Oh, well, time to crawl under the rock and wait for the GROUNDHOG to jump out late like he did this year! :signs14::yes::111:

Bullionaire 02-07-2009 11:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/...--p-20883.html


Go here for more cut and paste photos....

HistoryStudent 02-08-2009 06:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm KIND of wondering if anyBODY even got their UHR order yet? You know, the ONE you are allowed by the rationing? :111::111::yes::signs14:

Gordon Gekko 02-09-2009 09:47 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Checked the status of my order this morning and it has changed from "on hold" to "in process". I think this is good news!! Keep in mind, I ordered mine late (1/23/09). My order number is 308734XX.

dumbnbroke 02-09-2009 10:50 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
found this on Mint News Bog

Anonymous said...

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit shipped on 02/06/2009

February 7, 2009 3:50 PM

if it is true at least one has shipped.

diversified2 02-09-2009 11:14 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbnbroke (Post 1558647)
found this on Mint News Bog

Anonymous said...

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit shipped on 02/06/2009

February 7, 2009 3:50 PM

if it is true at least one has shipped.

There are some interesting comments on their blog....thanks for the info. you are really helpful!!!!!

AV8R 02-09-2009 01:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I think the mint has sold 50000 of these. I've seen 2 claims of shipment. My take is: The mint has not shipped any. I got my order in a half hour into the sale and the track shipment page shows 2/06 ship date. My last email from the mint expects to ship on 2/18. So.. hurry up and wait and dont believe everything you read on the internet

Az Ag 02-09-2009 01:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
As of this morning, the mint website gives me the status that both the coin and the book are in stock and reserved. Although, the cancel box is still available. Coin ordered at 45 minute mark.

CoinNut 02-09-2009 01:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
:36_1_63: Won't be long now. One person received today,many their bank card,CC was charged today and my bank set aside 1,193.95 for something:bear_rolleyes: today..........:s15: way pass time

Bill57 02-09-2009 02:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
According to my credit card, $1193.95 has been "approved, but not yet entered into the account". I hadn't checked before, so I don't know at what time this charge was "approved".

EE_ 02-09-2009 04:40 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Cancel boxes on both book and coin are gone.
Come to papa!

dumbnbroke 02-09-2009 05:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1559332)
Cancel boxes on both book and coin are gone.
Come to papa!

yeah, mine also.
these babies are starting to move.

HistoryStudent 02-09-2009 05:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
You LUCKY Son of a GUN :yes:- I waited two hours :4_1_72::4_1_72:so now I have to wait three months for DELIVERY. :36_3_16: my sweet BIPPIE - however, I'm proud to see somebody getting at least their FAIR RATION of ONE! :emotions16::clap2::23_28_100s:
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbnbroke (Post 1559365)
yeah, mine also.
these babies are starting to move.


C&L 1911 02-09-2009 05:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1559332)
Cancel boxes on both book and coin are gone.
Come to papa!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbnbroke (Post 1559365)
yeah, mine also.
these babies are starting to move.

What are your order number(s)? I'm within the first 6000 orders, and my order status is still "on hold", with the item status of "In stock and reserved". And "Cancel" check boxes are still there, too.


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foolsgold 02-09-2009 05:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Bastids.... I am in stock and reserved, but still have my cancel boxes.

AV8R 02-09-2009 05:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Finally some progress, the mint hit my credit card, no date anymore on the track order site, but cancel boxes still there, maybe I'll have the Double Eagle in hand later on this week.

Bill57 02-09-2009 05:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
OK, I just went to track my order, and found "in stock and reserved" and "cancel boxes" were still there. I was one of the first 1000 in at order #308294xx!
I'm wondering if those order numbers really mean anything regarding shipping dates.

AV8R 02-09-2009 05:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Good question. You would think, first in first out, I wonder if it really works that way. My order # is 308283XX

1981 02-09-2009 05:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I only ordered mine a few days ago, but it now reads in stock and reserved. My order number is 3093XXXX. Is this even possible? Did enough people get fed up and cancel that I got moved forward? Originally my order said Backordered until 3/20. This seems like an improvement.:smile:

CoinNut 02-09-2009 05:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
:confused_ma: Maybe the long delay, after the 22th, was to get as many ready to ship at the same time. Doing it this way,the mint would not get so many,"where is my order"inquires. :banghead:

Az Ag 02-09-2009 06:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1558963)
As of this morning, the mint website gives me the status that both the coin and the book are in stock and reserved. Although, the cancel box is still available. Coin ordered at 45 minute mark.


I posted the above about 5 hours ago. Now my status has gone back to the coin in stock and reserved, and the book now on back order status with an expected ship date of 2-24.

This is extremely frustrating. I am sorely tempted to cancel the order just out of disgust for having to deal with such incompetence.

foolsgold 02-09-2009 06:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1559501)
I posted the above about 5 hours ago. Now my status has gone back to the coin in stock and reserved, and the book now on back order status with an expected ship date of 2-24.

This is extremely frustrating. I am sorely tempted to cancel the order just out of disgust for having to deal with such incompetence.

Patience...it's nothing personal. I'm in the same boat.

Manager Mr 02-09-2009 07:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The charge is pending on my cc now.:applause_

ng1469 02-09-2009 08:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just checked mine and both the coin and book are "in stock and reserved" and the cancel button is gone!
my order number was 30827XXX

Gordon Gekko 02-09-2009 11:27 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The cancel boxes are still there, but mine is now reading, "in stock and reserved"!!!! I am thrilled!! Earlier today it was just reading, "1 unit backordered". This is starting to move in the right direction.

Apocalypto 02-09-2009 11:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
In stock and reserved. Finally. This is a painful process, but this coin is worth it. It's a magic coin. Everyone who owns this coin will have great luck and success. You heard it here first.

But a word of warning: Don't sell it for less than 5k, or your luck will go away...

Gordon Gekko 02-09-2009 11:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1560266)
In stock and reserved. Finally. This is a painful process, but this coin is worth it. It's a magic coin. Everyone who owns this coin will have great luck and success. You heard it here first.

But a word of warning: Don't sell it for less than 5k, or your luck will go away...

Congrats! I am glad to hear. This coin will definitely be magical. I am just very confused by my order. I placed it a whole day after the coin went on sale, and my order says it is "in process" and my coin is now "in stock and reserved". Perhaps it IS lucky! Or, maybe it has something to do with the expedited shipping option I chose? Who knows.

Apocalypto 02-09-2009 11:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1560276)
maybe it has something to do with the expedited shipping option I chose? Who knows.

Whatever the case, you're definitely in, Mr. Gekko. Congrats.

EE_ 02-10-2009 12:46 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
They're coming.
http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...ef-double.html

Gordon Gekko 02-10-2009 08:20 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1560293)
Whatever the case, you're definitely in, Mr. Gekko. Congrats.

Thanks for the kind words! I can't wait until we get the coin!

C&L 1911 02-10-2009 09:33 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well, just received another backorder email this morning... The new date is now 2/20/09.

Manager Mr 02-10-2009 10:31 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Update... (308301xx) The cancel boxes are now gone.:applause_
my cc was hit for the full amount.

(308484xx) In-Law just told me his order now reads
In stock and reserved
Your order request is in process

Apocalypto 02-10-2009 10:59 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
1 Attachment(s)
I GOT IT!!!





























is what this guy yelled to his teammates...


In terms of the UHR coin, I'm in stock and reserved.:111:

foolsgold 02-10-2009 11:18 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My cancel boxes are GONE

:36_3_16:

foolsgold 02-10-2009 11:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My CC has been BANGED

:36_1_28:

Bill57 02-10-2009 12:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I feel bad, with an order # of 308294xx, I received an email from the mint adding 2 more days to my delivery date, now Feb. 20. You guys with higher numbers are way ahead of me, and I wonder how/why.

C&L 1911 02-10-2009 12:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1561025)
I feel bad, with an order # of 308294xx, I received an email from the mint adding 2 more days to my delivery date, now Feb. 20. You guys with higher numbers are way ahead of me, and I wonder how/why.

Wondering the same thing here... Nothing on my CC (not even a pending authorization), order is still on hold, cancel checkboxes are still there, and backorder date moved to 2/20... WTF? :s15:

Bill57 02-10-2009 12:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just got off the phone with a customer service rep at the mint, and expressed my dissatisfaction that people who placed their order after I placed mine were getting their orders filled while my delivery date continues to be pushed forward. She said the orders were being processed "first in, first out", and I explained how that statement was untrue, and that I had no problem if that was, indeed, the way the mint was handling the orders. But it obviously is NOT.

Apocalypto 02-10-2009 01:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just called the mint. They told me they will be sending me a letter in the mail to confirm my identity. Once I receive the letter, I have to call them back so they know it's really me. It might have something to do with the fact that I'm not in the U.S. Frankly, I appreciate that policy since it protects both the mint and me from someone trying to rip me off.

Az Ag 02-10-2009 01:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1559501)
I posted the above about 5 hours ago. Now my status has gone back to the coin in stock and reserved, and the book now on back order status with an expected ship date of 2-24.

This is extremely frustrating. I am sorely tempted to cancel the order just out of disgust for having to deal with such incompetence.


Apparently the Mint got word of my frustration and temptation to cancel the order. As of this morning, both book and coin are in stock and reserved and the cancel box has been removed. Credit card has also been hit.

Obviously, the Mint must have a GIM membership too. :bear_rolleyes:

ng1469 02-11-2009 05:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Anyone get a tracking number yet? My CC has been charged, but no tracking # yet.

C&L 1911 02-11-2009 05:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1561120)
I just called the mint. They told me they will be sending me a letter in the mail to confirm my identity. Once I receive the letter, I have to call them back so they know it's really me. It might have something to do with the fact that I'm not in the U.S. Frankly, I appreciate that policy since it protects both the mint and me from someone trying to rip me off.

I was just told the same thing, and I am in the US, and my "ship to" address is the same as my "bill to" address. She said everyone who ordered UHR eagle should be sent this letter... which obviously isn't true because many have already had their cards charged. Maybe it's because this was my first order directly from US Mint.

j-son 02-11-2009 05:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
mine says
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 In stock and reserved
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 In stock and reserved




no cancel button still

HistoryStudent 02-11-2009 06:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
It appears that the one-coin limit ration podunk minor dealie is in process. MY only "Prayer" is that they'll get mixed up and send me the ORIGINAL one from the SMITHSONIAN coin cabinet dated back 102 years ago! bancha:yes:(:111::111:) Try and get it back then. I send them to FARUK U. - the school of DA-NILE! (spelling intended for fun!) Yeah, right!


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ghaffar23 02-11-2009 11:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1564146)
I was just told the same thing, and I am in the US, and my "ship to" address is the same as my "bill to" address. She said everyone who ordered UHR eagle should be sent this letter... which obviously isn't true because many have already had their cards charged. Maybe it's because this was my first order directly from US Mint.

That verification thingy they sent in the mail happened to my Prosperity Set last week. Once I confirmed it, everything was just fine. Now, my UHRDE order is a little better. I'm hoping for a shipment end of this week.

Orders 3083xxxx and 3082xxxx

shortstack 02-12-2009 09:16 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My order says:


2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 In stock and reserved
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/18/2009.


The backorder on the book moved from 2/20/2009 to the 2/18/2009
Still have the cancel boxes (wondering if I should just cancel the book so that the coin is freed up for shipment)
My order number is:30877XXX

I ordered around 11 PM on Saturday night, gold had went up thursday and Friday, if the mint updated the sell price daily (as opposed to doing this once a week based on the Friday close price), then I would have paid 1,289 instead of the 1,189 - this is initially why I placed the order.

And I don't think it's fair that I might get the coin before people who ordered on Friday afternoon. Especially as some are going to turn around and try to get the "first strike" designation from a grading service (which I will not do)

HistoryStudent 02-12-2009 11:57 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1559904)
Just checked mine and both the coin and book are "in stock and reserved" and the cancel button is gone!
my order number was 30827XXX

Like KEVIN COSTNER (real young then) in SILVERADO movie: "ME TOO!"

:15_1_70v::15_1_70v::Surrender:

C&L 1911 02-12-2009 06:26 PM

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I received the letter today; it basically said that the address I gave them didn't match the billing address on my Credit Card (which it does) and to send them the correct address. I called them and asked what's going on. The CS rep told me I could just ignore the letter because there was a glitch in their system that generated those letters, and my order appeared good to go. So, I guess we can chalk it up as another example of inner workings of the US Govt...

She also told me that my order was scheduled to be shipped on the 12th (which is today), and I should be getting it no later than 20th. I'll believe it when I see it... Although, I just checked my credit card and there is a pending authorization for roughly the same amount, so it's starting to look promising. Also, my "cancel" check boxes are finally gone.

:565:

ghaffar23 02-12-2009 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1566727)
...I just checked my credit card and there is a pending authorization for roughly the same amount, so it's starting to look promising. Also, my "cancel" check boxes are finally gone.

:565:

My cancel boxes have been gone on my order since the beginning of the week. Also, my CC has a temp authorization for the full amount as well. I spoke with one of the ladies at the US Mint and she told me that my order isn't expected to ship until 2/18, despite the status online. Don't know what to expect...Like I said eariler, I'm hoping for shipment by the end of this week. Otherwise, I'll be expecting it out their door by 2/18.

ng1469 02-12-2009 10:32 PM

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Hopefully this keeps up. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270342582829 $600 profit before its even graded first strike

HistoryStudent 02-13-2009 12:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1559501)
I posted the above about 5 hours ago. Now my status has gone back to the coin in stock and reserved, and the book now on back order status with an expected ship date of 2-24.

This is extremely frustrating. I am sorely tempted to cancel the order just out of disgust for having to deal with such incompetence.

Patience - this is the only year for the coin and they are being SEVERELY rationed OUT to the ELECT who chose to wait. Day BY DAY!

:signs14::yes:

rodzm 02-13-2009 04:11 AM

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I just placed mine now and I guess Ill be waiting a good while until mine ships. It is ok for me, some things are worth the wait and this coin is one of them. Those who choose to wait will be rewarded

ghaffar23 02-13-2009 02:19 PM

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My father and I went the route of canceling the book last week and we've been ready to go, as far as shipping is concerned. I called the US Mint last week and they told me that the scheduled shipping date is the 18th. I think I've mentioned this before. I believe that they're going to do the next bulk shipment then. I just think that it's fishy that the first guy that claims to have received their UHRDE is the ONLY one that received his...

HistoryStudent 02-13-2009 02:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ghaffar23 (Post 1568386)
My father and I went the route of canceling the book last week and we've been ready to go, as far as shipping is concerned. I called the US Mint last week and they told me that the scheduled shipping date is the 18th. I think I've mentioned this before. I believe that they're going to do the next bulk shipment then. I just think that it's fishy that the first guy that claims to have received their UHRDE is the ONLY one that received his...

Fishy? Nah just a flat out blatent phoney no truth :signs14::signs14::15_1_70v::yes:

Proof Like Morgan 02-13-2009 05:30 PM

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Looks like february 8th some people received theirs. I'am still waiting and my cancel boxes have been gone a week and my CC was charged on Monday. Still nonthing. Here is a link to the person who got one. http://www.coinnetwork.com/forum/top...ATopic%3A16658

Gordon Gekko 02-13-2009 06:59 PM

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What is everyone's opinion on whether or not to sent it to PCGS or NGC for the "First Strike" or "Early Release" label? I am new to numismatics, and am trying to figure out if it would be worth it to have it graded when I get the coin.

Manager Mr 02-13-2009 07:22 PM

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I would like too, But it's not going to happen....

The cut off for PCGS I think it's 02-22-09, & NGC is 03-08-09

By the way looks like the mint has stop the ability to track orders

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azxcvbnm321 02-13-2009 07:37 PM

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The PCGS and NGC grading for recently released coins depends on the greater fool theory. You'll have to find an idiot to sell to. Given what I know of the "first strike" and "early release" labels of the past, they command little to no premium and shouldn't. The Mint has said before that once they strike the coins, they are mixed together and shipped, there's no guarantee that a coin that is shipped first was minted before a coin that will ship later. The "Early Release" moniker was just a marketing tool made by the coin dealers to create more business for themselves. I would not pay a cent more for a "First Strike" or "Early Release", in fact, I wouldn't pay a cent more for a recently released graded coin. Most coins relased by the mint are MS-69 and MS-70 to begin with, if your coin is graded MS-68, then it will sell at a discount to an ungraded coin.

Gordon Gekko 02-13-2009 07:48 PM

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Thanks a lot guys for the very helpful information. Perhaps I will skip the first strike process as it seems it may not be worth it.

Apocalypto 02-13-2009 07:50 PM

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Mr Gekko, you'll be more than pleased with the profit you're going to make with the purchase of this coin, first strike cert. or not.

Gordon Gekko 02-13-2009 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1568944)
Mr Gekko, you'll be more than pleased with the profit you're going to make with the purchase of this coin, first strike cert. or not.

Kinda what I figured. But, I probably won't flip this coin. I have intentions of holding onto it for a while unless some extreme circumstance causes me to sell it.

HistoryStudent 02-13-2009 11:54 PM

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When I get my rationed 1 UHR Double Eagle I seriously doubt that I would send it off to a grading service right away. That said, I would send it off if the MINT stops MINTING them soon this year; or if they become rare for some reason; or that they switch from a fancy BULLION coin into a RARE numismatic item. WINK!

In the meantime one has the box, book, and documentation from the MINT WIZARDS who can NOT figure out how to accomplish their mission assigned to them by the congress to mint enough P.M. SUPPLY or the demand. Like the KEYSTONE cops in business. But, that's how government works; as private business they would all fail.

:yes: Just kidding. :signs14::5_1_120::5_1_120::111:


Apocalypto 02-14-2009 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1568950)
Kinda what I figured. But, I probably won't flip this coin. I have intentions of holding onto it for a while unless some extreme circumstance causes me to sell it.

I'm in agreement with you, Mr. Gekko. But, should the day come when I need to part with it for some reason, it'll fetch a huge profit.

I got my letter from the mint today. Similar to others who received the letter, it said that the address I gave them for delivery didn't match the one on my cc card (not true). The purpose of the letter is strictly to protect both parties by confirming you are the individual who placed the order. You call the mint, tell them that the address on the card does indeed match your address, then they fire off the coin. In other words, my order is coming very soon.

Anticipation...

Gordon Gekko 02-14-2009 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1569467)
I'm in agreement with you, Mr. Gekko. But, should the day come when I need to part with it for some reason, it'll fetch a huge profit.

I got my letter from the mint today. Similar to others who received the letter, it said that the address I gave them for delivery didn't match the one on my cc card (not true). The purpose of the letter is strictly to protect both parties by confirming you are the individual who placed the order. You call the mint, tell them that the address on the card does indeed match your address, then they fire off the coin. In other words, my order is coming very soon.

Anticipation...

I know what you mean. I just hope that day doesn't come because I will nto want to part with this beauty!!

I am jealous that your coin is on the way!:s15: Would you mind posting some pics when you get it?

Apocalypto 02-14-2009 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1569601)
I know what you mean. I just hope that day doesn't come because I will nto want to part with this beauty!!

I am jealous that your coin is on the way!:s15: Would you mind posting some pics when you get it?

Absolutely I'm posting pics. Did you see the link Morgan posted from the other site? Someone's already got theirs. Even the box is nice.

http://www.coinnetwork.com/forum/top...ATopic%3A16658

Az Ag 02-14-2009 02:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1569467)
I'm in agreement with you, Mr. Gekko. But, should the day come when I need to part with it for some reason, it'll fetch a huge profit.


I am curious what your rationale is (or anybody else's) for thinking this coin will generate huge profits. I am no expert, but from what I have seen of other coins, I don't expect this coin to appreciate fantastically. I think the mintage is going to be too high. The number of sales is supposedly already around 50,000 and it will be sold all year long, with no mintage limit to be set.

When the first year buffalo coin came out they had a limit on the proof version of 300,000 coins. Consequently, the coin really hasn't appreciated much. In contrast, on the 20th anniversary GAE sets, the Reverse Proof coin was limited to about 10,000 coins, and they have appreciated significantly.

Based on the above, I do not expect the UHR coin to appreciate all that much. My personal belief is that to make a little money on this coin, one would be advised to get a "First Strike" designation and sell as soon as possible.

That being said, I think I will get mine in time to get a First Strike designation, but I am not interested in selling. I want to keep the coin because it is a beautiful coin and the presentation of the box, etc is very attractive.

Gordon Gekko 02-14-2009 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1570041)
Absolutely I'm posting pics. Did you see the link Morgan posted from the other site? Someone's already got theirs. Even the box is nice.

http://www.coinnetwork.com/forum/top...ATopic%3A16658

Yes, I did see it. It surely is a beautiful coin and the box it comes is not too shabby as well.

madfranks 02-16-2009 02:47 PM

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I just noticed that on the mint website for these coins it has an option for "color", and then it states "one color". Why is that even there?

Proof Like Morgan 02-16-2009 09:15 PM

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Hey guys. The first submitted UHR submitted to PCGS. The owner of this coin is planning on selling on ebay when he receives his coin back from PCGS. I said this a few times now but again First Strike is going to be a huge profit for the lucky few. I believe March 6 is still the cut off line for FS. :banghead:

http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article...universeid=313

Apocalypto 02-16-2009 11:39 PM

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I couldn't give a flying hoot about the grading myself. It won't add too much to the value of the coin in my estimation. But then I'm new to the whole thing so maybe I'm wrong. Besides, didn't someone on eBay already sell one for around a $500 profit, without the grading?

On another note, I called the mint today about the letter I got on Friday, and they told me that the order is going through. The letter about the address not being the same as the credit card was a mix-up, apparently. So my order is still moving along. It's "in the warehouse to be picked up".

Meanwhile, I haven't been able to track my order all day. I get this at the tracking screen:

This feature is temporarily unavailable. Please call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468) if you would like to track an order. We apologize for this inconvenience.

Click here to return to the Catalog home page.


Oh coin, where are you? Please come to Papa...

HistoryStudent 02-17-2009 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1574486)
I couldn't give a flying hoot about the grading myself. It won't add too much to the value of the coin in my estimation. But then I'm new to the whole thing so maybe I'm wrong. Besides, didn't someone on eBay already sell one for around a $500 profit, without the grading?

On another note, I called the mint today about the letter I got on Friday, and they told me that the order is going through. The letter about the address not being the same as the credit card was a mix-up, apparently. So my order is still moving along. It's "in the warehouse to be picked up".

Meanwhile, I haven't been able to track my order all day. I get this at the tracking screen:

This feature is temporarily unavailable. Please call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468) if you would like to track an order. We apologize for this inconvenience.

Click here to return to the Catalog home page.


Oh coin, where are you? Please come to Papa...

:yes:

Same HERE on screen "HISTORY!" Where art THOU? Anyway funny thing is on EBAY they are selling coins they have ON order - did not see one ready to ship - maybe I missed it - anyway I was smiling and wondering "what IF" the infamous US MINT decides to cancel all PM orders because of some executive order.

Just wondering what a mess that would make. :signs14::yes:

Gordon Gekko 02-17-2009 05:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1574486)
I couldn't give a flying hoot about the grading myself. It won't add too much to the value of the coin in my estimation. But then I'm new to the whole thing so maybe I'm wrong. Besides, didn't someone on eBay already sell one for around a $500 profit, without the grading?

On another note, I called the mint today about the letter I got on Friday, and they told me that the order is going through. The letter about the address not being the same as the credit card was a mix-up, apparently. So my order is still moving along. It's "in the warehouse to be picked up".

Meanwhile, I haven't been able to track my order all day. I get this at the tracking screen:

This feature is temporarily unavailable. Please call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468) if you would like to track an order. We apologize for this inconvenience.

Click here to return to the Catalog home page.


Oh coin, where are you? Please come to Papa...


Temporary my a**. It has been unavailable since this past Friday.

Gordon Gekko 02-19-2009 05:59 PM

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Any updates on the coin???? I can't track my order and this thread hasn't seen any action as of late. I am getting antsy in my pantsy (in a non-perverted, strictly numismatic kind of way).

HistoryStudent 02-19-2009 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1581293)
Any updates on the coin???? I can't track my order and this thread hasn't seen any action as of late. I am getting antsy in my pantsy (in a non-perverted, strictly numismatic kind of way).

Call the MINT with the 800 number given with the "unavailable" window.:yes:


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foolsgold 02-19-2009 06:25 PM

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Nothng here...it's supposed to ship tomorrow....we shall see.

C&L 1911 02-19-2009 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1581354)
Nothng here...it's supposed to ship tomorrow....we shall see.

That's what I was told earlier today, too.

AV8R 02-19-2009 09:39 PM

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According to the last email I got from the mint I was supposed to ship yesterday.2/18. I called today, they said, after jacking around for a couple minutes that I've been back ordered to March 6th, my order #308283XX. Also I asked have they shipped any of these Double E's? and he said no, he was not aware of any that shipped. Said I would get an email, so far, no email.

EE_ 02-19-2009 09:55 PM

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Several have been shipped, and the people at the mint are dening that they released them.
Here's the 1st, First Strike...
http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article...universeid=313

netwanderer 02-20-2009 10:19 AM

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anyone still buying?

oboshoe 02-20-2009 06:48 PM

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If gold continues to rise will we be billed for the UHR eagle based on the price of gold when it ships, or when it was purchased?


Just wondering if I'll need to be prepared for a $2,000 charge on my card in 6 months.

HistoryStudent 02-20-2009 07:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by netwanderer (Post 1582790)
anyone still buying?

I ordered another one yesterday. We'll see if they "allow it?"

Anyway still waiting for the 1st one ordered two hours after the OKLAHOMA GOLD and LAND RUSH day when 1st allowed.

:111::111:

HistoryStudent 02-20-2009 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oboshoe (Post 1583891)
If gold continues to rise will we be billed for the UHR eagle based on the price of gold when it ships, or when it was purchased?


Just wondering if I'll need to be prepared for a $2,000 charge on my card in 6 months.

Hey, it might be $5,000 then, right?

:signs14:

ghaffar23 02-21-2009 01:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1583996)
Hey, it might be $5,000 then, right?

:signs14:

No...they'd cancel your order before they do that...TO THE BACK OF THE LINE! That'd be pretty much all of us...BTW, anyone get a ship confirmation? Didn't think so...neither have I.

GreenSpirit 02-21-2009 01:16 PM

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You will all get emails on April 1st.

EE_ 02-21-2009 01:28 PM

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I keep calling the Mint, they keep telling me it's supposed to go out today, yet my credit card has not been charged yet.
I tell them my order is in the first 500 ordered, and others have gotten theirs.
They are still denying any have gone out. WTF!

foolsgold 02-21-2009 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1584928)
I keep calling the Mint, they keep telling me it's supposed to go out today, yet my credit card has not been charged yet.
I tell them my order is in the first 500 ordered, and others have gotten theirs.
They are still denying any have gone out. WTF!

I called yesterday, the operator was honest and said it was not going out on time but she could not provide any more information. Have a good weekend.

diversified2 02-21-2009 01:58 PM

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The US has a mickey mouse mint and a mickey mouse government
:36_1_28:

GreenSpirit 02-21-2009 02:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
If you really want one that badly just buy it on ebay.

And as soon as the seller gets it from the Mint, he'll send it along.

It's perfectly simple. :smile:

HistoryStudent 02-22-2009 11:21 PM

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I ordered ONE about two HOURS from MOMENT "MICKEY MOUSE MINT" NOON :yes:day. Still no :4_1_72:TICKEY for the ridey; anyway tried for another one 2-19 and the MICKEY MOUSE MINT :yes:said - THEY canceled it. Oh, well I tried. :36_3_16: The RATION is still IN one that you never get shipped. :111: Please keep smiling - cause this is the story today.

Apocalypto 02-22-2009 11:41 PM

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It would seem "mint" in this case is an acronym for "mentally incapacitated numbskull thickheads"

Workaholic 02-23-2009 12:27 AM

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It could be they know.

The gvnmnt will soon need every once they can get their hands on.

Sounds like conspiracy i know, but I'm in a mood.

To much internet.

HistoryStudent 02-23-2009 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1587659)
It could be they know.

The gvnmnt will soon need every once they can get their hands on.

Sounds like conspiracy i know, but I'm in a mood.

To much internet.

You's too smart - must be part of the AX me administration - just kidding! :yes::signs8::signs8:

Workaholic 02-23-2009 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1588593)
You's too smart - must be part of the AX me administration - just kidding! :yes::signs8::signs8:

HS

It's an honor that you responded to my post.


now, can I pease have your avatar :biggrin:

HistoryStudent 02-23-2009 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1588937)
HS

It's an honor that you responded to my post.


now, can I pease have your avatar :biggrin:

NOPE PILGRIM - here's why!


True story:

location:
Belemy's Restaurant - Across from the Balboa Bay Club - Newport Beach, CA
Now a McDonald's!


Time 5:00 a.m. on a Sunday morning -

Funny thing is that in 1967 (I'm really getting old!) I was a 23 year-old working as a CIVIL SERPENT (read uniform cop having more fun than I could appreciate) in Newport Beach just after LAPD. Across the way at the other table facing me - was this fellow who REALLY looked familar.

So I said," You look really familar - are you from Los Angeles?"

Answer: "Yes, my name is MARRION MORRISON; but, you would not recognize
THAT name would you?"

"No sir." We were really polite back then.

"Well, my stage name is 'JOHN WAYNE'!"

"Wow, I said. "I'm named after you Steven Wayne."

"Come over Offiicer and I'll buy you breakfast!"

"I'm movin' DUKE!"

:10_1_20:

This really happened - HONEST. :15_1_70v:

Workaholic 02-23-2009 08:08 PM

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Thanks for the story HS

I'm a huge John Wayne fan

I think he and my father could have been twins, in looks and demeanor

diversified2 02-24-2009 05:34 AM

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Okay EE quit calling them and HS quit spamming the order process... you guys are preventing the one or two people employed by the Mickey Mouse Mint from getting any orders out
:4_1_72::111::signs14:

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 11:12 AM

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Credit card got hit up today. I wonder how much longer it's going to be. When I call the Mint to track my order, they still say that it is "still in process", even though they charged my credit card. Only time will tell...

EE_ 02-24-2009 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1590501)
Credit card got hit up today. I wonder how much longer it's going to be. When I call the Mint to track my order, they still say that it is "still in process", even though they charged my credit card. Only time will tell...

I was told today that no orders will go out until April 24? Another month, WTF?
I was in the first 500 orders. What bullshit!

igorthesmall 02-24-2009 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1590555)
I was told today that no orders will go out until April 24? Another month, WTF?
I was in the first 500 orders. What bullshit!

Asking people at the mint for information is about as useful as asking a magic 8 ball.

unalga 02-24-2009 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1590555)
I was told today that no orders will go out until April 24? Another month, WTF?
I was in the first 500 orders. What bullshit!

Anyone out there actually received one yet?

The Mint is just getting beyond understanding on issues like this.

Selling what you don't have? Might as well be NWTM which we all love to hate due to their selling/shipping practice.

Going to be real mad (for what good that would do) to find out the first 50,000 went out to dealers while retail gets to wait.

rodzm 02-24-2009 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unalga (Post 1590596)
Going to be real mad (for what good that would do) to find out the first 50,000 went out to dealers while retail gets to wait.


Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner!!!! Dealers come first, didn't you know that???

EE_ 02-24-2009 12:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unalga (Post 1590596)
Anyone out there actually received one yet?

The Mint is just getting beyond understanding on issues like this.

Selling what you don't have? Might as well be NWTM which we all love to hate due to their selling/shipping practice.

Going to be real mad (for what good that would do) to find out the first 50,000 went out to dealers while retail gets to wait.

http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article...universeid=313

ng1469 02-24-2009 01:08 PM

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Now I cant even call to check my order. I get the message "We are unable to answer you call at this time... ect". The mint is really making a bad name for themselves

diversified2 02-24-2009 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1590730)
Now I cant even call to check my order. I get the message "We are unable to answer you call at this time... ect". The mint is really making a bad name for themselves

They have caller ID and since you keep calling they have moved your order to the back of the line :4_1_72:


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ng1469 02-24-2009 01:28 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1590755)
They have caller ID and since you keep calling they have moved your order to the back of the line :4_1_72:

:bear_cry:

1981 02-24-2009 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1590755)
They have caller ID and since you keep calling they have moved your order to the back of the line :4_1_72:

Finally, it was getting lonely back there.

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1590555)
I was told today that no orders will go out until April 24? Another month, WTF?
I was in the first 500 orders. What bullshit!

So, they charge you, but don't immediately give you the product???? Hmmm...

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1590907)
So, they charge you, but don't immediately give you the product???? Hmmm...

Can anyone shed some light on this? I am new to numismatics and have never ordered directly from the U.S. Mint. I was under the impression that once they charged your credit card, the coin was shipping out. EE is saying they are not going out until April 24th. If this is the case, what in the heck are they doing charging my credit card two months before the coin is actually going to ship?!?!:bear_angry:

EE_ 02-24-2009 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1591576)
Can anyone shed some light on this? I am new to numismatics and have never ordered directly from the U.S. Mint. I was under the impression that once they charged your credit card, the coin was shipping out. EE is saying they are not going out until April 24th. If this is the case, what in the heck are they doing charging my credit card two months before the coin is actually going to ship?!?!:bear_angry:

I called again and talked to someone that knows a little more.
I'm now told next week, possibly.
Someone over there is telling people the 24 of April, and shouldn't.

Did they charge the full amount on your card?

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1591584)
I called again and talked to someone that knows a little more.
I'm now told next week, possibly.
Someone over there is telling people the 24 of April, and shouldn't.

Did they charge the full amount on your card?

Thanks for the reply EE. To answer your question, yes, they did charge the full amount for the coin to my credit card. Do you think I should be expecting the coin soon then?

C&L 1911 02-24-2009 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1591636)
Thanks for the reply EE. To answer your question, yes, they did charge the full amount for the coin to my credit card. Do you think I should be expecting the coin soon then?

Are you sure it's wasn't just an authorization? I had a pending transaction/authorization on my card for the full amount, but then it dropped off after a few days. It's a standard practice for vendors to authorize the amount against the Credit card first, and then follow up with the actual charge. The authorization is done at the transaction time, and the charge is processed when the merchandise is shipped.

EE_ 02-24-2009 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1591636)
Thanks for the reply EE. To answer your question, yes, they did charge the full amount for the coin to my credit card. Do you think I should be expecting the coin soon then?

You might have your's before me.
If your card is charged, it should ship very soon.
I want to be first to show a picture, damn! :favorites21:

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 08:05 PM

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From the Mint's website:

"The United States Mint will charge your credit card as items are shipped from our distribution center. Charges will include only those items in the package being shipped, and for shipping and handling. You will only be charged for shipping and handling once per order for destinations within the United States of America and its territories."

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1591640)
Are you sure it's wasn't just an authorization? I had a pending transaction/authorization on my card for the full amount, but then it dropped off after a few days. It's a standard practice for vendors to authorize the amount against the Credit card first, and then follow up with the actual charge. The authorization is done at the transaction time, and the charge is processed when the merchandise is shipped.

Honestly, I am not really sure. How can I tell if they really charged my card vs. if it is just an "authorization". FWIW, it is strictly a credit card, not a debit card/credit card.

HistoryStudent 02-24-2009 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1590085)
Okay EE quit calling them and HS quit spamming the order process... you guys are preventing the one or two people employed by the Mickey Mouse Mint from getting any orders out
:4_1_72::111::signs14:

I'm sorry :signs14: :36_1_32v: I bow to your wishes. However, I decided to try again. Just kidding. Got YA there didn't I? :yes: :clap2::23_28_100s:

But, frankly, I'm still waiting as we all MOSTLY are - the one or two they shipped AIN'T talking herein - I believe.

PS I HONESTLY promise NOT to SPAM the PIGS at the MINT in the TROUGH - :36_1_32v::36_1_32v::signs14:

Keep :111::111::111::36_3_12:

HistoryStudent 02-24-2009 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1591584)
I called again and talked to someone that knows a little more.
I'm now told next week, possibly. (READ BELOW!) :yes:
Someone over there is telling people the 24 of April, and shouldn't.

Did they charge the full amount on your card?

All they have to say that is THREE times and you KNOW they are LYING!

:yes::111::111::111::111::111::111::wink:

C&L 1911 02-24-2009 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1591652)
Honestly, I am not really sure. How can I tell if they really charged my card vs. if it is just an "authorization". FWIW, it is strictly a credit card, not a debit card/credit card.

Depends on your bank, I guess. My bank (Chase) doesn't really show the pending transactions/authorizations anywhere, but they are reflected in the "available balance" amount, so I can roughly guess the amount of pending transactions/authorizations. Other cards/banks may do it differently.

diversified2 02-24-2009 09:40 PM

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I think that Gordon chose expedited shipping if I recall...Maybe that is why he may get his coin earlier than those that ordered before him???? They haven't charged my credit card yet.
HS you made me laugh!!!!!:shine:

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1591833)
I think that Gordon chose expedited shipping if I recall...Maybe that is why he may get his coin earlier than those that ordered before him???? They haven't charged my credit card yet.
HS you made me laugh!!!!!:shine:

Yes, I sure did. I figured, what the heck? For a few bucks more, I might get my coin a little earlier. We shall see, we shall see.

diversified2 02-24-2009 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1591873)
Yes, I sure did. I figured, what the heck? For a few bucks more, I might get my coin a little earlier. We shall see, we shall see.

I wish I had chosen expedited shipping. Let us know.

Apocalypto 02-24-2009 09:54 PM

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Mr. Gekko, to my knowledge your order came in after mine, yet my CC has not yet been charged. I'm starting to think the mint is a bit disorganized.

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1591883)
I wish I had chosen expedited shipping. Let us know.

Rest assured, I will keep you guys posted.

Gordon Gekko 02-24-2009 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1591886)
Mr. Gekko, to my knowledge your order came in after mine, yet my CC has not yet been charged. I'm starting to think the mint is a bit disorganized.

I am sure you are right. I ordered mine a whole day after they became available to the public. My order number is 308734XX. Yet, they charged my credit card this morning. I am just very confused as I am sure you are.

HistoryStudent 02-24-2009 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1591833)
I think that Gordon chose expedited shipping if I recall...Maybe that is why he may get his coin earlier than those that ordered before him???? They haven't charged my credit card yet.
HS you made me laugh!!!!!:shine:

One GOTTA have HUMOR with this JOKE :yes: called the US GIVERMINT - that can't find a few ounces of gold to make $400 each on... Yet makes BILLIONS upon BILLION of OBAMA DOLLARS for the fools... oops; sorry :36_3_12:if I offended anyone .. just ranting :realmad: out of frustration cause of the total NINCOMPOOPS :fan::aetsch: that run things.

:signs14::wink::111::111:

Gordon Gekko 02-25-2009 10:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1591700)
Depends on your bank, I guess. My bank (Chase) doesn't really show the pending transactions/authorizations anywhere, but they are reflected in the "available balance" amount, so I can roughly guess the amount of pending transactions/authorizations. Other cards/banks may do it differently.


Checked my account. It does seem that it is an authorization because it isn't showing up as a transaction. My credit line in use increased by exactly $1200, so, without actually seeing the posted transaction, I assume it's just an authorization as of right now.

EE_ 02-25-2009 10:30 AM

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US Mint "Closed for Business"
http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...category=10191

Gordon Gekko 02-25-2009 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1592851)

Say what?!?!

EE_ 02-25-2009 10:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1592858)
Say what?!?!

Might as well be? What can you buy and get in your hands anytime soon?

diversified2 02-25-2009 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1592132)
One GOTTA have HUMOR with this JOKE :yes: called the US GIVERMINT - that can't find a few ounces of gold to make $400 each on... Yet makes BILLIONS upon BILLION of OBAMA DOLLARS for the fools... oops; sorry :36_3_12:if I offended anyone .. just ranting :realmad: out of frustration cause of the total NINCOMPOOPS :fan::aetsch: that run things.

:signs14::wink::111::111:

Someone has been hanging out with the DUCK too much....QWAK:yes:

Ringhunter 02-25-2009 11:23 AM

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Mint website has 5-24-2009 now for ship date, presume if you order today

EE_ 02-25-2009 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringhunter (Post 1593007)
Mint website has 5-24-2009 now for ship date, presume if you order today

So you're talking June maybe, before you can get anything from the Mint?
:cry1:

1981 02-25-2009 11:34 AM

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Hey guys! I just noticed that there's no wait for the First Lady coins!:puke: Can you believe it?

1981 02-25-2009 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1591883)
I wish I had chosen expedited shipping. Let us know.

Everybody gets upgraded to expedited shipping automatically for orders over $300.00, so all UHRDE orders will get expedited shipping for no extra charge. But if you pay for it during check out they won't refund you the difference.

"Orders for merchandise valued at $300 or more with a standard delivery option chosen will receive a complimentary upgrade to Expedited Shipping. "
https://answers.usmint.gov/cgi-bin/u...i=&p_topview=1

EE_ 02-25-2009 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1593032)
Hey guys! I just noticed that there's no wait for the First Lady coins!:puke: Can you believe it?

:puke::504:


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foolsgold 02-25-2009 11:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1593040)
Everybody gets upgraded to expedited shipping automatically for orders over $300.00, so all UHRDE orders will get expedited shipping for no extra charge. But if you pay for it during check out they won't refund you the difference.

"Orders for merchandise valued at $300 or more with a standard delivery option chosen will receive a complimentary upgrade to Expedited Shipping. "
https://answers.usmint.gov/cgi-bin/u...i=&p_topview=1

Expedited shipping would help if the ever get off their fat a$$ as move the stuff out the door.

Expedited shipping geez.:36_1_28:

I'm just saying....

diversified2 02-25-2009 11:43 AM

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We have been spoofed by the mint!!!!http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...egory_rn=31738
Check it out no longer available. I just updated my account for expedited shipping and noticed the above :bear_angry:

EE_ 02-25-2009 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1593066)
We have been spoofed by the mint!!!!http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...egory_rn=31738
Check it out no longer available. I just updated my account for expedited shipping and noticed the above :bear_angry:

It's being repriced for tomorrow morning.

1981 02-25-2009 11:47 AM

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They're probably just re-pricing. It'll be back later today for $1500 product available 12/31/09.

Edit: EE beat me to the punch. Dang!

diversified2 02-25-2009 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1593074)
It's being repriced for tomorrow morning.

I just got off the phone with the mint and they informed me that there are only enough 24 Kt planchettes to complete 400 orders and they aren't sure if they will be able to get more plachettes this year so if you aren't in the first 400 orders you are SOL!!!!!!! :36_1_28:
















Just kidding :signs14:

1981 02-25-2009 12:05 PM

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You know, if it would help the mint out, they could skip minting mine and send me the raw planchet in the box. How much do you think an error like that would go for? If I got it soon enough, I could have the only First Strike unstruck error UHRDE. :4_1_72:

diversified2 02-25-2009 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1593113)
You know, if it would help the mint out, they could skip minting mine and send me the raw planchet in the box. How much do you think an error like that would go for? If I got it soon enough, I could have the only First Strike unstruck error UHRDE. :4_1_72:

:111::4_1_72: Would you send it to PCGS????:4_1_72: I am lossing my patience with them! :mad_m:

Bill57 02-25-2009 12:38 PM

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I thought I was good to be within the first 3500 orders. Now you say your order would had to have been in the first 400(!) to be "good"? I called the mint and was connected immediately (as usual) only to get a recording stating that they "cannot answer the call at this time"!
Maybe the president should "stimulate" the U.S. Mint...with a cattle prod up their rear ends!

diversified2 02-25-2009 12:42 PM

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:36_1_32v:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1593160)
I thought I was good to be within the first 3500 orders. Now you say your order would had to have been in the first 400(!) to be "good"? I called the mint and was connected immediately (as usual) only to get a recording stating that they "cannot answer the call at this time"!
Maybe the president should "stimulate" the U.S. Mint...with a cattle prod up their rear ends!

I was just kidding!!!! :signs14: If you scrolled down on the post I put in the just kidding disclaimer. Until I see one of our GIM members post a pic....I won't believe they have shipped a single coin to us plebes!!!!
Then the 1 or 2 employees that work for the mint would probably quit after the cattle prodding and we would really be SOL for sure:36_1_32v:

HistoryStudent 02-25-2009 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1593066)
We have been spoofed by the mint!!!!http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...egory_rn=31738
Check it out no longer available. I just updated my account for expedited shipping and noticed the above :bear_angry:

:yes: I "AIN'T" no stinkin' ducker :sheep:- Just kidding. By the way a few posts back I mentioned when they DENY it three times it is a fact to become happening. So they are MOVING the shipping date till next SUMMER (read JUNE or later right now). And I think these things are going to be rarer than the ORIGINAL HIGH DEF. SAINTS (somebody - who was a ducker - said only 400 blanks!) - if the blanks are not forthcommin' - and they sure as hell ain't shipping too many - I'll betya :yes:- QUACK - opps a burp! :111::111: If they wait till summer they may be $5,000 grand each!

HistoryStudent 02-25-2009 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1593160)
I thought I was good to be within the first 3500 orders. Now you say your order would had to have been in the first 400(!) to be "good"? I called the mint and was connected immediately (as usual) only to get a recording stating that they "cannot answer the call at this time"!
Maybe the president should "stimulate" the U.S. Mint...with a cattle prod up their rear ends!

"Don't worry he sent them a BILLION OBAMA BUCKS and they ALL ran off on vacation!":signs14::applause_:111::111:

HistoryStudent 02-25-2009 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1522523)

The FIRST poster turns out to be a PROPHET :36_1_32v: - sadly. PERHAPS a - 6 to 9 month wait for the folks who ordered early too! :cry1: Now, the problem is I read that the gold price may hit $5,000 next year - so get a clue - they "Ain'T" gonna give us POOR FOLKS :sheep:any deal. Nope it's gonna cost you an arm and a leg - kinda like those old mortgages Ajustable Rate Mortgage - and that's to by JUST one!:shot::aetsch::haha:

1981 02-25-2009 02:03 PM

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Well, the UHRDE is back up at the low low price of $1339. I also found this article about the delivery problems with the coin, enjoy:


http://www.coinnews.net/2009/02/25/u...-to-rise-4751/

foolsgold 02-25-2009 03:56 PM

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Got this in my email.....

Re: Order Number 30836xxx

Dear Customer,

The United States Mint is pleased to announce that we will resume shipping of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin during the week of February 22, 2009. However, because of production problems with the Companion Book, you may receive only the COIN and presentation box at this time. If you are a customer who receives the COIN without the Companion Book, we will ship the Companion Book to you, at no extra charge, when it becomes available.

If you ordered your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22, 2009, and February 9, 2009, you are under the 30-day return policy. If you ordered on or after February 10, 2009, you are under the seven-day return policy. The return timeframe for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN and presentation box will begin on the date you receive it. If you are dissatisfied for any reason with your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN, you may send it back to the United States Mint within the applicable return period for a full refund or replacement. If you return your COIN for any reason prior to receiving the Companion Book, we will cancel your shipment of the Companion Book. If you receive the Companion Book within the applicable return period, you must return both for a full refund.

If your Companion Book is shipped separately, the exchange timeframe for it also will begin on the date you receive it and under the same return policy � 30 days or seven days � as applicable. We will make no refunds for the Companion Book; we will make exchanges for damages only.

Customers� orders will be shipped on a first-come, first-served basis. You will be notified by email when your order has shipped. If you do not receive the Companion Book with your COIN, you will receive a second e-mail notification when we ship the Companion Book.

If you ordered the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22 and February 23, 2009, we expect to ship it by April 24, 2009.
If you place your order for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin on or after February 24 (and up until March 24, 2009), we expect to ship it by May 24, 2009.

Thank you for your interest in United States Mint products.

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 03:57 PM

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Not mine. Order # 30864XXX. Coin in hand and on its way to PCGS.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...DSC09962-2.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...DSC09963-4.jpg[/

foolsgold 02-25-2009 04:01 PM

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Noice....
You Da Man!
Thank you for sharing...
You've renewed my faith.:36_1_32v:

Did it come without the book?

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 04:09 PM

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Came without the book.

foolsgold 02-25-2009 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Proof Like Morgan (Post 1593494)
Came without the book.

Another silly question ...They put a pending charge onto my debit card which expired and was reversed. They haven't yet charged my card again.

Did they charge your card?

CoinNut 02-25-2009 04:15 PM

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:wavey: I know where you got that picture..:yippee:

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1593500)
Another silly question ...They put a pending charge onto my debit card which expired and was reversed. They haven't yet charged my card again.

Did they charge your card?


Unfornately this not my order.:s10: My order was 30831XXX which is many orders before this one that has arrived. I have no idea how the mint is distributing these according to order #'s but I have not received shipping notification as of yet.

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1593503)
:wavey: I know where you got that picture..:yippee:


:elefant: :tongue_ma:

shortstack 02-25-2009 04:46 PM

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I have a pending charge on my Debit card. Just received this e-mail from the mint:

Re: Order Number 3087XXXX

Dear Customer,

The United States Mint is pleased to announce that we will resume shipping of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin during the week of February 22, 2009. However, because of production problems with the Companion Book, you may receive only the COIN and presentation box at this time. If you are a customer who receives the COIN without the Companion Book, we will ship the Companion Book to you, at no extra charge, when it becomes available.

If you ordered your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22, 2009, and February 9, 2009, you are under the 30-day return policy. If you ordered on or after February 10, 2009, you are under the seven-day return policy. The return timeframe for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN and presentation box will begin on the date you receive it. If you are dissatisfied for any reason with your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN, you may send it back to the United States Mint within the applicable return period for a full refund or replacement. If you return your COIN for any reason prior to receiving the Companion Book, we will cancel your shipment of the Companion Book. If you receive the Companion Book within the applicable return period, you must return both for a full refund.

If your Companion Book is shipped separately, the exchange timeframe for it also will begin on the date you receive it and under the same return policy – 30 days or seven days – as applicable. We will make no refunds for the Companion Book; we will make exchanges for damages only.

Customers’ orders will be shipped on a first-come, first-served basis. You will be notified by email when your order has shipped. If you do not receive the Companion Book with your COIN, you will receive a second e-mail notification when we ship the Companion Book.

If you ordered the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22 and February 23, 2009, we expect to ship it by April 24, 2009.
If you place your order for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin on or after February 24 (and up until March 24, 2009), we expect to ship it by May 24, 2009.

Thank you for your interest in United States Mint products.

1981 02-25-2009 04:59 PM

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Alright, the mint says April 24th. If we punch that into my mint lie decoder ring and adjust for incompetence & apathy, we get June 24th. Isn't it funny how the folks who ordered in the first hour and the folks who ordered Feb. 23rd will ship at the same time? I don't feel so bad for waiting until Feb 4th now.

CoinNut 02-25-2009 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Proof Like Morgan (Post 1593525)
:elefant: :tongue_ma:

:cry1: May want to get the shot of the box also. The box has NO tape on the bottom and it was left on step without signature. So if you think a coin is coming...keep an eye out.:yes:

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 05:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1593587)
:cry1: May want to get the shot of the box also. The box has NO tape on the bottom and it was left on step without signature. So if you think a coin is coming...keep an eye out.:yes:

Per request of coinnut.. :bear_thumb:
:puke:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...DSC09955-1.jpg

HistoryStudent 02-25-2009 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Proof Like Morgan (Post 1593464)

Being a died-in-the-wool SAINTS man with a beer budget and High Class likes - all I can say is wow!

Thanks - I really appreciate the time you took to PUT that puppy up.

:getdown::banana::banana::23_30_104:

Apocalypto 02-25-2009 07:26 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
As much as I hate the waiting... I am stunned by the beauty of this gold coin. Awesome.

Bill57 02-25-2009 08:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
What part of the word "resume" am I not understanding? If the mint "resumes" shipment, that means they began shipping and stopped, and now they shall resume. From what I've been reading here, they never began what they now say they will resume!
And what about that first in first out bs?

igorthesmall 02-25-2009 09:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I hate to break it to whoever owns that coin, but according to PCGS, if you take it out of the box it was shipped in to look at it, its no longer eligible to be a first strike...


Quote:

According to the PCGS website, in order to receive the PCGS "First Strike" designation, the coins must be submitted sealed in the post marked Mint shipping box.

HistoryStudent 02-25-2009 10:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The way I get it is that if you ordered in the first hour they ship to you next year.

It's OBAMA's NEW fairness doctrine.

:yes::111::111::504::clap2:


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Gordon Gekko 02-25-2009 11:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1593040)
Everybody gets upgraded to expedited shipping automatically for orders over $300.00, so all UHRDE orders will get expedited shipping for no extra charge. But if you pay for it during check out they won't refund you the difference.

"Orders for merchandise valued at $300 or more with a standard delivery option chosen will receive a complimentary upgrade to Expedited Shipping. "
https://answers.usmint.gov/cgi-bin/u...i=&p_topview=1


Wow, haha. I really feel kind of dumb paying the extra 10 bucks or whatever it was for "expedited" shipping (...puts dunce hat on).

mick silver 02-25-2009 11:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1593463)
Got this in my email.....

Re: Order Number 30836xxx

Dear Customer,

The United States Mint is pleased to announce that we will resume shipping of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin during the week of February 22, 2009. However, because of production problems with the Companion Book, you may receive only the COIN and presentation box at this time. If you are a customer who receives the COIN without the Companion Book, we will ship the Companion Book to you, at no extra charge, when it becomes available.

If you ordered your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22, 2009, and February 9, 2009, you are under the 30-day return policy. If you ordered on or after February 10, 2009, you are under the seven-day return policy. The return timeframe for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN and presentation box will begin on the date you receive it. If you are dissatisfied for any reason with your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN, you may send it back to the United States Mint within the applicable return period for a full refund or replacement. If you return your COIN for any reason prior to receiving the Companion Book, we will cancel your shipment of the Companion Book. If you receive the Companion Book within the applicable return period, you must return both for a full refund.

If your Companion Book is shipped separately, the exchange timeframe for it also will begin on the date you receive it and under the same return policy � 30 days or seven days � as applicable. We will make no refunds for the Companion Book; we will make exchanges for damages only.

Customers� orders will be shipped on a first-come, first-served basis. You will be notified by email when your order has shipped. If you do not receive the Companion Book with your COIN, you will receive a second e-mail notification when we ship the Companion Book.

If you ordered the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22 and February 23, 2009, we expect to ship it by April 24, 2009.
If you place your order for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin on or after February 24 (and up until March 24, 2009), we expect to ship it by May 24, 2009.

Thank you for your interest in United States Mint products.

just got this today also

Proof Like Morgan 02-25-2009 11:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1594014)
I hate to break it to whoever owns that coin, but according to PCGS, if you take it out of the box it was shipped in to look at it, its no longer eligible to be a first strike...


If the coin arrives at PCGS before the deadline it doesn't matter if you opened the box or not. If you plan on sending the coin after the deadline but received the coin before March 11, you must send it in the shipping box. Once PCGS opens the box they will read the mint invoice which will say the date. It would obviously qualify for a first strike if PCGS receives the coin before the deadline.

kiwi_envoy 02-26-2009 02:14 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1594322)
just got this today also

Me too, all the way in Aussie Land.

I see there is a pending charge against my VISA card.

ng1469 02-26-2009 03:03 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My pending charge on my visa went away today.....guess 30827XXX (about 1000 orders) wasn't good enough... What was the point of offering it in January when you wont be able to ship it till April???!!

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 08:03 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Coin has officially been shipped!!! I can't believe it! I ordered the day after they went on sale!

Order #: 308734XX - 1 Order Date: 1/23/09


Sold To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


Ship To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


Date Shipped: 2/25/09


Amount Charged : 1193.95


Tracking ID


XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX


Items included in this shipment:




1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 08:05 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Looks like they also didn't charge me for the expedited shipping that I signed up for. Pretty nice of them.

diversified2 02-26-2009 09:07 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594747)
Looks like they also didn't charge me for the expedited shipping that I signed up for. Pretty nice of them.

Damn looks like us penny pinchers should have requested expedited shipping afterall. Unless you know someone at the mint Gordon....I can't figure out how this happened other than that you chose expedited when you ordered.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:13 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594809)
Damn looks like us penny pinchers should have requested expedited shipping afterall. Unless you know someone at the mint Gordon....I can't figure out how this happened other than that you chose expedited when you ordered.

I honestly am as surprised as you are. I didn't even order the day they went on sale. I waited until the next day. This was my first time ordering from the Mint. Perhaps they give some friendly service to new customers ;)

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:18 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594809)
Damn looks like us penny pinchers should have requested expedited shipping afterall. Unless you know someone at the mint Gordon....I can't figure out how this happened other than that you chose expedited when you ordered.

I wonder if it has anything to do with my aunt being the director of the Mint? I doubt it.

shortstack 02-26-2009 09:20 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
On it's way...

We shipped the items listed below today. Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon. Track your order at http://catalog.usmint.gov Questions about returns or cancellations? Please visit http://catalog.usmint.gov Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint. Electronic gift certificates are now available!

Order #: 30877XXX - 1 Order Date: 1/23/09
Sold To: XXXXX
Ship To: XXXXXXX
Date Shipped: 2/25/09
Amount Charged : 1212.85
Tracking ID 2956zzzzzz 1ZE1zzzzzzz
Items included in this shipment: 1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1 This is a system generated e-mail. Please do not reply. If you have questions, please visit the Help page at http://catalog.usmint.gov or call us at 1-800-USA-MINT.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594830)
On it's way...

We shipped the items listed below today. Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon. Track your order at http://catalog.usmint.gov Questions about returns or cancellations? Please visit http://catalog.usmint.gov Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint. Electronic gift certificates are now available!

Order #: 30877XXX - 1 Order Date: 1/23/09
Sold To: XXXXX
Ship To: XXXXXXX
Date Shipped: 2/25/09
Amount Charged : 1212.85
Tracking ID 29567532zzzzzz 1ZE1988X0zzzzzzz
Items included in this shipment: 1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1 This is a system generated e-mail. Please do not reply. If you have questions, please visit the Help page at http://catalog.usmint.gov or call us at 1-800-USA-MINT.


You also ordered yours on the 23rd? I did the same and mine is on its way as well. Seems like ordering the coin the second day it was available to the public was the way to go! :getdown:

CoinNut 02-26-2009 09:26 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Their policy of "first in first out" is not being honored. IMO. They had "problems" with this offering,so I think they are just getting them out the door, without regard to when the order was placed. Most of the time , it has been first in first out. Hope those "responsible" will review this latest...Glitch :36_1_25:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:28 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1594839)
Their policy of "first in first out" is not being honored. IMO. They had "problems" with this offering,so I think they are just getting them out the door, without regard to when the order was placed. Most of the time , it has been first in first out. Hope those "responsible" will review this latest...Glitch :36_1_25:


Although I am happy that mine is on its way even though I ordered after most, I am a bit annoyed at how the process has unraveled.

shortstack 02-26-2009 09:30 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Gordon,

Are you going to go the whole first strike grading road with this coin? I have expidited shipping so I expect to have this today, as it's only coming from the US mint in West Point NY (I go hiking around there all the time). I should have asked if I could have picked it up in person.

I will take a pic and post it here - don't expect it to turn out as nice as TomD's work, though I will make sure the pic is not blurry. If I take it out of the plastic holder, I know enough to wear cotton gloves. Would opening the coin (for a better pic) mean that the grading service would not give a first strike? I am starting to think that a great pic for this thread outweighs a first strike from PNCS. With all the counterfitting going on of the graded coins, I am leaning twords not sending it for the first strike and getting a better pic of the coin

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Ok, now I am uber confused. I just called the Mint to track my order and they are still saying that my order is still being processed, even though they sent me an email saying that the coin has shipped and gave me a tracking number and the whole nine yards. What the heck??

diversified2 02-26-2009 09:36 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594845)
Although I am happy that mine is on its way even though I ordered after most, I am a bit annoyed at how the process has unraveled.

Okay, so let us know what you think of it as soon as it comes! That way I can cancel my order if it is going to be a disappointment since I probably have another month to wait. Keep in mind I have some pretty high standards and the pic that was posted above looks like the coin is a little rough if you study it. I think our mint sucks...I am fond of coins that have a proof like finish.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:37 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594854)
Gordon,

Are you going to go the whole first strike grading road with this coin? I have expidited shipping so I expect to have this today, as it's only coming from the US mint in West Point NY (I go hiking around there all the time). I should have asked if I could have picked it up in person.

I will take a pic and post it here - don't expect it to turn out as nice as TomD's work, though I will make sure the pic is not blurry. If I take it out of the plastic holder, I know enough to wear cotton gloves. Would opening the coin (for a better pic) mean that the grading service would not give a first strike? I am starting to think that a great pic for this thread outweighs a first strike from PNCS. With all the counterfitting going on of the graded coins, I am leaning twords not sending it for the first strike and getting a better pic of the coin


SS,

I am not really sure if I will be sending it in or not. A lot of members on GIM are opposed to the idea. I guess I will wait to see when it actually arrives to make a decision. From my understanding, the coin CANNOT be taken out of the box or the box be opened if you want the grading. I could be wrong, though. I feel your sentiments about the grading conundrum. Let me know what you decide.

Also, do you know how to track your order given the tracking ID number they provided? I am trying to figure it out for myself.

shortstack 02-26-2009 09:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Gordon,

did you try inputting the tracking number into the USPS website? I got nothing back from the post office web package tracking section when inputting the number. I tried the whole thing, then the numeric (17 numbers) as well as the alpha numeric part (18 characters, a miz of numbers and letters). They shipped on Feb 25th, it's the 26th today so I should be able to pull up something.

Diversified,

I agree the pic posted above was blurry. The detail on the coin did not seem to be "high relief" - unless this is a case of an awful pic but great coin. F&*K that, I am taking that puppy out of the plastic holder to get the best shot I can, using my 5.2 megapixel sony one click camera that is.

diversified2 02-26-2009 09:45 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594877)

Diversified,

I agree the pic posted above was blurry. The detail on the coin did not seem to be "high relief" - unless this is a case of an awful pic but great coin. F&*K that, I am taking that puppy out of the plastic holder to get the best shot I can, using my 5.2 megapixel sony one click camera that is.

Awesome! I look forward to seeing your pic! :36_1_32v:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:46 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594877)
Gordon,

did you try inputting the tracking number into the USPS website? I got nothing back from the post office web package tracking section when inputting the number. I tried the whole thing, then the numeric (17 numbers) as well as the alpha numeric part (18 characters, a miz of numbers and letters). They shipped on Feb 25th, it's the 26th today so I should be able to pull up something.

Diversified,

I agree the pic posted above was blurry. The detail on the coin did not seem to be "high relief" - unless this is a case of an awful pic but great coin. F&*K that, I am taking that puppy out of the plastic holder to get the best shot I can, using my 5.2 megapixel sony one click camera that is.


I tried the USPS tracking site as well and am not getting any information. This is really screwy.

I will post pics as well when I get the coin. I got a new Canon 10 mega pixel camera for Christmas from my gf and want to put it to use!

CoinNut 02-26-2009 09:48 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Someone posted about "box opening" in this and another thread. If you have any question,call PCGS. If you READ their "conditions" it is clear. Send coin within the first 30 days...OR.. if mint shipped in first 30 days, leave in sealed box and send it past the 30 window. ...Edit to add...The first FS PCGS slabbed(Over a week ago) was opened and picture taken,before submission.

diversified2 02-26-2009 09:49 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594884)
I tried the USPS tracking site as well and am not getting any information. This is really screwy.

I will post pics as well when I get the coin. I got a new Canon 10 mega pixel camera for Christmas from my gf and want to put it to use!

Coins make the best :applause_Porn pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EE is going to be pissed...

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594890)
Coins make the best :applause_Porn pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EE is going to be pissed...

Haha, I know!!! This will be my first time posting porn on GIM. I might shed a tear.

1981 02-26-2009 09:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594830)
On it's way...
Order #: 30877XXX - 1 Order Date: 1/23/09
Sold To: XXXXX
Ship To: XXXXXXX
Date Shipped: 2/25/09
Amount Charged : 1212.85
Tracking ID 2956zzzzzz 1ZE1zzzzzzz
Items included in this shipment: 1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1 This is a system generated e-mail. Please do not reply. If you have questions, please visit the Help page at http://catalog.usmint.gov or call us at 1-800-USA-MINT.

I copy/pasted this into an e-mail and sent it to myself so I could share in the excitement. :yippee:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Here's my tracking ID. Can anyone figure out how I would actually use these numbers? I sure as heck can't figure it out:

91011054996159309XXXXX
295675327166XXXXX
1ZE1988X01115XXXXX

ng1469 02-26-2009 09:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I requested expedited shipping as well and ordered withing the first 20 min of it being on sale and there is no indication that mine is being shipped.... What happened to first in first out..... such SB

diversified2 02-26-2009 09:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1594898)
I copy/pasted this into an e-mail and sent it to myself so I could share in the excitement. :yippee:

:111: Did it work???:4_1_72:

ng1469 02-26-2009 09:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
1ZE1988X01115XXXXX
This one is for UPS

1981 02-26-2009 09:58 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594909)
:111: Did it work???:4_1_72:

It sure did!:banana:


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diversified2 02-26-2009 09:58 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1594907)
I requested expedited shipping as well and ordered withing the first 20 min of it being on sale and there is no indication that mine is being shipped.... What happened to first in first out..... such BS

You and I ordered around the same time....just goes to show you what a
bassakwards Mint we have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gcubed 02-26-2009 09:59 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594905)
Here's my tracking ID. Can anyone figure out how I would actually use these numbers? I sure as heck can't figure it out:

91011054996159309XXXXX
295675327166XXXXX
1ZE1988X01115XXXXX

You need to know how it was shipped. That isn't a registered mail number.

C&L 1911 02-26-2009 09:59 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594905)
Here's my tracking ID. Can anyone figure out how I would actually use these numbers? I sure as heck can't figure it out:

91011054996159309XXXXX
295675327166XXXXX
1ZE1988X01115XXXXX

The first number looks like it could be a USPS tracking number. The third number is definitely a UPS tracking number.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 09:59 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
According to UPS:

Type: Package
Status: Delivered
UPS has delivered the shipment.



Residential deliveries that do not require a signature may be left in a safe place, out of



Delivered
Delivered On: 02/26/2009
9:24 A.M.
Delivered To: XXXXXXX, XX, US
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Gcubed 02-26-2009 10:00 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Try pasting the 9101... number into USPS.com tracking

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 10:01 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just got confirmation from someone at my house that I got a package!!!! I can't believe it!! I won't be able to post pics until tonight because I am at work now, then have to go to class, then have to work again until 11:00pm. Suhweet!!!

ng1469 02-26-2009 10:01 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
are you not at home right now Gordon?

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 10:02 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1594932)
are you not at home right now Gordon?

I am at work, then have to go to class in a couple of hours, then have to come back to work. I won't be home until 11:00pm, but will post pics as soon as I get home!

ng1469 02-26-2009 10:02 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
im on hold with the mint right now.... lets see how long this takes, im gunna rip them a new one

EE_ 02-26-2009 10:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594890)
Coins make the best :applause_Porn pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EE is going to be pissed...

EE is pissed and is on the phone now calling for a supervisor! :favorites21:

shortstack 02-26-2009 10:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The alpha numberic is the one you want to input into UPS

Mine starts with 1ZE1988X (follwed by 10 digits)

Billing information has been sent to UPS. Check site later for updated shipment status or contact shipper for more details.


Tracking Number: 1Z E19 88X+++++++
Type: Package
Status: Billing Information Received
UPS has received the electronic transmission of shipment detail from the shipper and a label has been created for your shipment. Once UPS has possession of this shipment, the tracking status will be updated.

What should I do?
No action is required at this time. This is the most up-to-date information about the status of your shipment. Check Tracking periodically for shipment progress updates. If you don't see your shipment status change, you may choose to contact the sender to confirm that they have given the shipment to UPS.Billing Information Received
Shipped To: XXXXXXXX, CT, US
Shipped/Billed On: 02/25/2009
Service: NEXT DAY AIR
Weight: 2.40 Lbs

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 10:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1594939)
im on hold with the mint right now.... lets see how long this takes, im gunna rip them a new one

haha, let us know how the conversation goes. I am curious what they have to say about their shenanigans.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 10:05 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594943)
The alpha numberic is the one you want to input into UPS

Mine starts with 1ZE1988X (follwed by 10 digits)

Billing information has been sent to UPS. Check site later for updated shipment status or contact shipper for more details.


Tracking Number: 1Z E19 88X+++++++
Type: Package
Status: Billing Information Received
UPS has received the electronic transmission of shipment detail from the shipper and a label has been created for your shipment. Once UPS has possession of this shipment, the tracking status will be updated.

What should I do?
No action is required at this time. This is the most up-to-date information about the status of your shipment. Check Tracking periodically for shipment progress updates. If you don't see your shipment status change, you may choose to contact the sender to confirm that they have given the shipment to UPS.Billing Information Received
Shipped To: XXXXXXXX, CT, US
Shipped/Billed On: 02/25/2009
Service: NEXT DAY AIR
Weight: 2.40 Lbs

Mine was shipped UPS and was delivered about 30 mins ago. Yours should arrive today sooon.

diversified2 02-26-2009 10:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1594942)
EE is pissed and is on the phone now calling for a supervisor! :favorites21:

GET 'EM EE!!!!!!! They will be like this :fan:

ng1469 02-26-2009 10:14 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
They keep saying "Your call will be answered in a priority sequence.":36_1_28: Yea just like your shipping is "first in first out" right? :36_1_25:

ng1469 02-26-2009 10:25 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well that was a bunch of bull sh!t...... Supposidly there is a "whole lot that goes into releasing an order to the warehouse" and "depends on more than just when you placed your order." Also there were "no supervisors around right now". They also said it has to do with security and how long you have been ordering from the mint. When i said the person who got their coin had only placed 1 order with the mint they didnt have much to say. So basically I'm "going to get your (my) coin by April 24th"....
:36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28:
:fan::fan::fan::fan:

ng1469 02-26-2009 10:28 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hopefully that will put a little fire under their a$$ and get my coin out tomorrow... Or they will just be completely dumb and wait until April sometime.:s10:

diversified2 02-26-2009 10:30 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just think about how scary it will be if the government takes over the banks...they can't even handle a Mint!!!! :36_1_28::no_ma::banghead::bear_angry:

shortstack 02-26-2009 10:31 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just called up PCGS. They said that you can take the coin out and still get a first strike, provided that there is no damage or stains and they receive the opened coin by the March 11th deadline

The better approach, they said, is to not open the package the coin was shipped in (this means do not open what you get from the delivery guy). Wait one year. See if the first stikes carry a premium. If they do, simply send in the unopened package to PCGS. They said you could even wait 10 years and still get the first strike designation, privided the package the coin was shipped in was not altered in any way

I could just have a family member order a coin for me, and not open this one.

Gcubed 02-26-2009 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594993)
Just think about how scary it will be if the government takes over the banks...they can't even handle a Mint!!!! :36_1_28::no_ma::banghead::bear_angry:

They lost money running a Nevada Whore House!!:111::111::111:

diversified2 02-26-2009 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1594996)
Just called up PCGS. They said that you can take the coin out and still get a first strike, provided that there is no damage or stains and they receive the opened coin by the March 11th deadline

The better approach, they said, is to not open the package the coin was shipped in (this means do not open what you get from the delivery guy). Wait one year. See if the first stikes carry a premium. If they do, simply send in the unopened package to PCGS. They said you could even wait 10 years and still get the first strike designation, privided the package the coin was shipped in was not altered in any way

I could just have a family member order a coin for me, and not open this one.

You are a really trusting sort of person....what if the fools sent you an empty box?????:no_ma:

diversified2 02-26-2009 10:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1594998)
They lost money running a Nevada Whore House!!:111::111::111:

:cry1::s1::111: Thanks for the laugh!!!!

EE_ 02-26-2009 10:51 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1594950)
GET 'EM EE!!!!!!! They will be like this :fan:

When you call, or whom ever calls, make sure to ask to take the three question survey on your experience with the mint.
3 unsatisfactory's from me! :favorites21:
I've been calling anyone related to the mint to file a complaint.
I was given a number for a Kenya White 202-354-7372
I have a message in, stating that there is a failure to perform and that attendents are not reporting the problem in fear of losing their job.
If you're pissed too, contact her.
I'll let you know when I am contacted.
The only other thing you can do is mail your complaint to
Pitney Bowes Government Solutions
2799 Reeves Road
Plainfield, IN 46168

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 10:58 AM

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I am really contemplating skipping my 12:00pm class to go home and snap some pics of the coin. What does everyone think of this plan of action?

ng1469 02-26-2009 11:00 AM

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It will be there when you get home don't worry :23_30_104:

diversified2 02-26-2009 11:05 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595061)
I am really contemplating skipping my 12:00pm class to go home and snap some pics of the coin. What does everyone think of this plan of action?

If you can get a friend to take good notes go for it!!!! I would have a hard time concentrating in class if I were you.:shine:

Gcubed 02-26-2009 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595061)
I am really contemplating skipping my 12:00pm class to go home and snap some pics of the coin. What does everyone think of this plan of action?

Go to class. The coin will still be there.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 11:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1595093)
Go to class. The coin will still be there.

But I know you guys are dying to see some pics. My gf and I are in the same class. She can take notes for me.

Gcubed 02-26-2009 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595101)
But I know you guys are dying to see some pics. My gf and I are in the same class. She can take notes for me.

Do as you wish. Will emotion rule your business conduct?

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 11:16 AM

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So, what is the final verdict. I have the coin in hand, box hasn't been opened, and am wondering what to do in terms of sending it in for the "First Strike" designation. What the heck should I do?!? Someone help a noob out! Do you guys think it will be worth it?


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Gcubed 02-26-2009 11:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Go to class.

1981 02-26-2009 11:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595117)
So, what is the final verdict. I have the coin in hand, box hasn't been opened, and am wondering what to do in terms of sending it in for the "First Strike" designation. What the heck should I do?!? Someone help a noob out! Do you guys think it will be worth it?

Overnight it to PCGS and get it done quickly. Some dope on ebay will pay you big $$$ for that designation.

Apocalypto 02-26-2009 11:22 AM

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Go to class, Mr. Gecko. You got that little baby because you attended classes.

EE_ 02-26-2009 11:23 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595061)
I am really contemplating skipping my 12:00pm class to go home and snap some pics of the coin. What does everyone think of this plan of action?

I think it's a great idea! I hope the battery in your camera is dead! :favorites21: lol

EE_ 02-26-2009 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595101)
But I know you guys are dying to see some pics. My gf and I are in the same class. She can take notes for me.

I'm not dying to see your coin!

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 11:29 AM

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Ah, to be young and foolish again. I remember the 1963 RECESSION - and they cut my hours from 44 to 12 as a grocery store manager - that's when I decided to get back in college to get blessed with the first of three degrees and then three extra diplomas in trade type schools.

MORALS ETHICS VALUES REALLY DO MATTER IN THE END

:signs14::realmad: ranting:111:



shortstack 02-26-2009 11:30 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595117)
So, what is the final verdict. I have the coin in hand, box hasn't been opened, and am wondering what to do in terms of sending it in for the "First Strike" designation. What the heck should I do?!? Someone help a noob out! Do you guys think it will be worth it?

Gordon, see my post from above regarding my conversation with the grading service. You could simply elect to not open the box, wait 10 years, send the unopened box in, and get your first strike designation.

That said, the guy from PCGS admitted that folks in China and elsewhere are making perfect copies of thier holders, so what is the whole rush to get a stupid plastic holder on the coin when there will likely be counterfits popping up all over the place, especially if the first strikes are carrying a huge premium. The guy admitted that people are fabricating perfect coin holders (watch out Morgan Dollar fans) so why rob yourself of the ability to hold the coin in your own hands!

That said, I need to find some white cotton gloves, or I will just use a clean tee shirt to handle the coin - that puppy is coming out of the plastic case tonight!

grinningdog 02-26-2009 11:35 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just spoke to the mint about my order which has an ealry order number. They said all they knew was it was sent to the warehouse but the only thing he could tell me is that it is suppossed to ship before april 24 and that could slide. Geez. When I told him later order numbers were shipping now he stated he could not comment on that as he has heard both sides of that story. I don't know what the heck that means.

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1595152)
Gordon, see my post from above regarding my conversation with the grading service. You could simply elect to not open the box, wait 10 years, send the unopened box in, and get your first strike designation.

That said, the guy from PCGS admitted that folks in China and elsewhere are making perfect copies of thier holders, so what is the whole rush to get a stupid plastic holder on the coin when there will likely be counterfits popping up all over the place, especially if the first strikes are carrying a huge premium. The guy admitted that people are fabricating perfect coin holders (watch out Morgan Dollar fans) so why rob yourself of the ability to hold the coin in your own hands!

That said, I need to find some white cotton gloves, or I will just use a clean tee shirt to handle the coin - that puppy is coming out of the plastic case tonight!

Common sense is very uncommon and you HAVE it! :yes::10_1_20::565::getdown::banana::applause_ Down the soon road the SLAB folks will figure out a way to re-slab to avoid the problems out of China - that way they get more money to re-slab and get rid of the CONTERFEITING problems TOO. I'd really betya they are working on that right now - for that's what I'd do if it was my business. They also have an on-line checking system for anyone to check their holders - not just the special members. That's comming too. I'd also bet ya.

diversified2 02-26-2009 12:09 PM

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Okay, I'm not going to believe anyone got one until I see pics....take one setting next to a GIM round and we will know for sure!!!!! We can tell if it's photo shopped BTW!!!! Night all! I'll check back when I get up!!!!

EE_ 02-26-2009 12:31 PM

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Okay, I made some progress. Kenya is personally looking after my order, and will be contacting superiors regarding this matter. They will be reviewing my earlier phone call with customer service. That person will probably lose her job for telling me she was not reporting complaints in fear of losing her job, and her language, telling me people were calling her "a fu(king bitch". (unprofessional language for their personal)
That's all I can do.

1981 02-26-2009 01:02 PM

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I just received a super secret picture from the US Mint Fulfillment Center: :Zzzz::Zzzz::Zzzz::Zzzz:
And from the call center: :aetsch::aetsch::aetsch::aetsch:

And from the production line at West Point: :cheers::cheers:

And from the Mint Director's Office: :stupido2:

I even got a shot of some of the folks on this thread::secruity::secruity::secruity::secruity:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:05 PM

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She's here!

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Redbox2-1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:06 PM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...penedbox-1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/Certauth.jpg

1981 02-26-2009 01:08 PM

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Good, now hand it over or I'll tell your prof. you skipped class!:biggrin:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:08 PM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...010/Front1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:09 PM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...1010/Back2.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 01:10 PM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...010/Front2.jpg

lumpOgold 02-26-2009 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1594829)
I wonder if it has anything to do with my aunt being the director of the Mint? I doubt it.

It has more to do with the policy the mint has about orders over $300.
All orders are shipped expedited if you exceed that limit, but if you pay for expedited they don't normally refund it, so you got lucky!

shortstack 02-26-2009 01:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
hey gordon,

does the coin come out of the plastic holder, or is the plastic one solid piece not meant to be taken apart? How bout a side shot?

EE_ 02-26-2009 01:24 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Did you loupe it? Any speckles, nicks, or mars?
Af far as I can see, the rim looks fairly even. How's it look to you?

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1595372)
It has more to do with the policy the mint has about orders over $300.
All orders are shipped expedited if you exceed that limit, but if you pay for expedited they don't normally refund it, so you got lucky!

I was jk about that, BTW.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:24 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1595381)
hey gordon,

does the coin come out of the plastic holder, or is the plastic one solid piece not meant to be taken apart? How bout a side shot?

SS,

I am sure it comes out of the holder somehow. I didn't have much time to fool around with it because I had to rush back and pick up my gf whom I dropped off at class (I skipped). I can look into it tonight.

I will also try to get a sideshot tonight. It's a little guy, but very thick.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1595396)
Did you loupe it? Any speckles, nicks, or mars?
Af far as I can see, the rim looks fairly even. How's it look to you?

It looks beautiful. I am new to numismatics, so, I wouldn't really know what to look for out of the oridnary.

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 02:27 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Oops, I see a defect so that PUPPY is MS69 or worse - Murphy's Law GOT YA! :getdown::banana::23_30_104:

Just kidding.

HS
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595370)


Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:28 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
It really is a beautiful coin. I still am at a loss of words for how and why I got it before a lot of people that ordered it WAY before me. I was order number 308734XX

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 02:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595531)
SS,

I am sure it comes out of the holder somehow. I didn't have much time to fool around with it because I had to rush back and pick up my gf whom I dropped off at class (I skipped). I can look into it tonight.

I will also try to get a sideshot tonight. It's a little guy, but very thick.

I would think the wise thing to do is NOT remove it from PROTECTION! However, :signs14:you seem to push the envelope so take it out and throw it at least 20 feet in the air and try to catch it on a PUBLIC STREET - in fact play catch with it and your girlfriend. :4_1_72::111:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1595550)
I would think the wise thing to do is NOT remove it from PROTECTION! However, :signs14:you seem to push the envelope so take it out and throw it at least 20 feet in the air and try to catch it on a PUBLIC STREET - in fact play catch with it and your girlfriend. :4_1_72::111:

Haha, I don't know about that HS. Personally, I will not be taking it out of the plastic casing. However, others might want to.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 02:57 PM

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I will try to take better pictures later tonight including pictures of the side. I was in a hurry and figured I would snap just a few and will post more later. Hope you guys are enjoying these! (Or are they torture??)


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foolsgold 02-26-2009 03:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595605)
I will try to take better pictures later tonight including pictures of the side. I was in a hurry and figured I would snap just a few and will post more later. Hope you guys are enjoying these! (Or are they torture??)

It's torture....But in your pictures tonight please take one with a quarter in the frame so we can get a perspective on the size...Thanks.

diversified2 02-26-2009 03:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595370)

I think it's a keeper!!!! Lady Liberty looks like she is about to step out of the coin...Thanks for being brave and opening the box. I wouldn't buy one "Slabbed" BTW...I think they are better with their original packaging and certificate. There are probably a lot of people who would prefer it non- slabbed. Leave it in the capsule though. I hope mine gets here soon, I do not plan on selling mine ever. Thanks Gordon :applause_

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 03:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595561)
Haha, I don't know about that HS. Personally, I will not be taking it out of the plastic casing. However, others might want to.

Well you REALLY made ME JEALOUS so I found my original order way back on 1st day - 2 hours late- :yes:

order #30855*** I called them for the ROYAL round around - they don't even take calls -busy laying on their you-know-whats;

They still have both the account tracking and the order history out-of-order.

Now the folks that Failed :504: in running the Mustang Ranch in Nevada (a brothel - l guess the PERKS :yes: killed 'em) are NOW advising the mint. Evey, evey - the more things "CHANGE" :signs14: the more they stay the same. :23_28_100s:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 03:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1595617)
I think it's a keeper!!!! Lady Liberty looks like she is about to step out of the coin...Thanks for being brave and opening the box. I wouldn't buy one "Slabbed" BTW...I think they are better with their original packaging and certificate. There are probably a lot of people who would prefer it non- slabbed. Leave it in the capsule though. I hope mine gets here soon, I do not plan on selling mine ever. Thanks Gordon :applause_

You're very welcome! It is definitely a keeper and I share your same feelings about getting it graded, slabbed, etc. I will never take it out of the platic case it is currently in. Tonight, I will take and post pics comparing it to GAE's, CML's, quarters, etc.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 03:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1595614)
It's torture....But in your pictures tonight please take one with a quarter in the frame so we can get a perspective on the size...Thanks.

Yes, I sure will. Sorry for the torture!!

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 03:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1595620)
Well you REALLY made ME JEALOUS so I found my original order way back on 1st day - 2 hours late- :yes:

order #30855*** I called them for the ROYAL round around - they don't even take calls -busy laying on their you-know-whats;

They still have both the account tracking and the order history out-of-order.

Now the folks that Failed :504: in running the Mustang Ranch in Nevada (a brothel - l guess the PERKS :yes: killed 'em) are NOW advising the mint. Evey, evey - the more things "CHANGE" :signs14: the more they stay the same. :23_28_100s:


Hahaha, I am sorry to hear about your woes HS! Your coin will get here soon enough!

wrestlingbulls 02-26-2009 03:26 PM

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I will pay 1450 for a uhr if anyone is interested in selling theirs.

1981 02-26-2009 04:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrestlingbulls (Post 1595658)
I will pay 1450 for a uhr if anyone is interested in selling theirs.

I will sell my place in line for $2500.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 04:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1595350)
Good, now hand it over or I'll tell your prof. you skipped class!:biggrin:

Sure, that'll be $3000!

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 05:07 PM

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P.S. There is someone on Ebay who has one of these puppies in hand and is selling for $2,200!

1981 02-26-2009 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595829)
Sure, that'll be $3000!

$3000?!?! :deal:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 05:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1595877)
$3000?!?! :deal:

Haha, send me the check and I'll send you the coin.

EE_ 02-26-2009 05:14 PM

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Look at the rim on the coin this guy got. Would you be disappointed?
http://forums.collectors.com/message...7&STARTPAGE=92

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 05:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1595896)
Look at the rim on the coin this guy got. Would you be disappointed?
http://forums.collectors.com/message...7&STARTPAGE=92

Wow! yes, I would be VERY disappointed with that. That is ridiculous.

EE_ 02-26-2009 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1595899)
Wow! yes, I would be VERY disappointed with that. That is ridiculous.

How in the F%#! does something go out of the mint like that?

Gcubed 02-26-2009 05:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1595904)
How in the F%#! does something go out of the mint like that?

Your Treasury Department at work for you.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 05:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1595904)
How in the F%#! does something go out of the mint like that?

Your guess is as good as mine. All I know is this; if I paid $1,200-$1,400 for a coin and waited over a month to get it just to find out it looked like that, I would be appauled. I would for sure return it and either ask for a refund or another coin that hadn't been used for sidewalk chalk. Just my $0.02.

Bill57 02-26-2009 06:14 PM

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I vented to the nice CS lady that I was connected to at the mint. I ordered mine about 18 minutes after they began taking orders. She would not give me a name to whom I shall lodge a formal complaint about the "first in, first out" lie, but she told me to write to the following address, and that they take complaints seriously:
U.S. Mint, 2799 Reeves Rd., Plainfield, Indiana 48168.

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1595904)
How in the F%#! does something go out of the mint like that?

They are BUSY there shipping one coin at a time ten coins a day! :signs14::4_1_72::sarc:

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 06:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1596078)
They are BUSY there shipping one coin at a time ten coins a day! :signs14::4_1_72::sarc:

HS, I think you need to take out that sarcasm smiley because you sound spot on.

Apocalypto 02-26-2009 06:58 PM

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Wow, that's a dirty coin. If mines arrives in that condition it's getting returned for a replacement.

AV8R 02-26-2009 07:54 PM

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Looks to me like the shipping dep't at the mint is Ultra screwed up. Now we have "Luck of the draw shipping" My last email from the mint says,
"If you ordered the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin by February 23, 2009, we expect to ship it no later than April 24, 2009" I hope I get my double eagle before the mint announces the production of the coin is suspended until further notice, due to a lack of blanks.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 08:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AV8R (Post 1596223)
Looks to me like the shipping dep't at the mint is Ultra screwed up. Now we have "Luck of the draw shipping" My last email from the mint says,
"If you ordered the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin by February 23, 2009, we expect to ship it no later than April 24, 2009" I hope I get my double eagle before the mint announces the production of the coin is suspended until further notice, due to a lack of blanks.

It's tough to figure the Mint out. According to the emails they sent me a while ago, my coin was supposed to ship in early March. However, I got my coin today. Oh yea, I forgot to mention. I just called to track my order for the hell of it, and they are still saying that they are processing my order. Too funny...

HistoryStudent 02-26-2009 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596081)
HS, I think you need to take out that sarcasm smiley because you sound spot on.

Question: GG - :yes:

When did you order this coin - within the first HOUR? Of when OFFERED?

Appreciate YOUR reply sorry :signs14: for KIDDING you all along - all's well that ends well!

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1596233)
Question: GG - :yes:

When did you order this coin - within the first HOUR? Of when OFFERED?

Appreciate YOUR reply sorry :signs14: for KIDDING you all along - all's well that ends well!

HS,

I didn't even order the coin the day they went on sale. I ordered it the following day (1/23/09). Somehow, I ended up getting the coin earlier than a lot of folks that ordered way before me. :signs14:...................:getdown:

CoinNut 02-26-2009 08:23 PM

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getting the coin earlier than a lot of folks that ordered way before me. :signs14:...................:s15:.....As well you should be.........Just kidding:applause_ The mints doing on this mess. Am glad to see alota people getting theirs(1000's) today. Wil just :36_1_63: wait some more for mine. Just hope it is nice condition,so I do not have to return for replacement.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1596268)
getting the coin earlier than a lot of folks that ordered way before me. :signs14:...................:s15:.....As well you should be.........Just kidding:applause_ The mints doing on this mess. Am glad to see alota people getting theirs(1000's) today. Wil just :36_1_63: wait some more for mine. Just hope it is nice condition,so I do not have to return for replacement.

I know I know. I said that tongue-in-cheek. I would rather wait a while and get a pristine coin than get it "early" and have it in rough shape like the one in that link above. That would be such a hassle.

Gordon Gekko 02-26-2009 11:44 PM

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Taking more pics right now.

Az Ag 02-26-2009 11:57 PM

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The CSR that I talked to at the Mint said my UHRDE has been slated for shipping, but said no shipping number is available yet. She said it has a "Pick" designation which means they are close to shipping. She asked me to call back on Monday and they should have the shipping info then.

By the way, my order was on the first day at minute :45. I sure hope she knows of what she speaks.

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:30 AM

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Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:31 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/Newinbox.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:31 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/NewSide1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:32 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/NewSide2.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:33 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...10/Newrow1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:34 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v.../NewvsGAE2.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:35 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...wvsQuarter.jpg

Not too much bigger than your standard quarter (sorry for the horrible picture).

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:36 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/NewvsSAE.jpg

kiwi_envoy 02-27-2009 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596236)
HS,

I didn't even order the coin the day they went on sale. I ordered it the following day (1/23/09). Somehow, I ended up getting the coin earlier than a lot of folks that ordered way before me. :signs14:...................:getdown:

Maybe it ships by SURNAME 1st and date 2nd in breaks of 1 week or something?

GG are you fitting that category?

Cheers,

Kiwi.

My surname starts with A and I have a pending charge on my cc and email saying it will ship soon like the other posts.

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:37 AM

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http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v.../NewFront2.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:38 AM

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We'll end it with this one:

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/NewBack1.jpg

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 12:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_envoy (Post 1596668)
Maybe it ships by SURNAME 1st and date 2nd in breaks of 1 week or something?

GG are you fitting that category?

Cheers,

Kiwi.

My surname starts with A and I have a pending charge on my cc and email saying it will ship soon like the other posts.


No, that wouldn't make sense for my name. I don't think there is a rhyme or reason for getting mine before people that ordered before me.

kiwi_envoy 02-27-2009 12:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596672)
No, that wouldn't make sense for my name. I don't think there is a rhyme or reason for getting mine before people that ordered before me.

Ahh well, just being hopeful I guess.

It is a nice looking coin, really looking forward to getting that one.

Have you taken it out into the sunlight?

The gold buffallos absolutely sparkle.

Talah 02-27-2009 01:16 AM

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I love the mint!!! I ordered this last monday, the 23rd....got it TODAY!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA :emotions16::ARMS1::beer::23_30_104::23_31_2:























....




That was just a joke

Im truly very sorry for that.

1981 02-27-2009 09:45 AM

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From the pictures I've seen, there appears to be a collar mark on the edge of the coin where the collar comes together. That looks kind of tacky, like a cheap plastic toy, IMHO. Also, I wonder if the orientation of the lettering is standard or if it changes with the coin, like the Presidential dollars.

diversified2 02-27-2009 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596655)
***WARNING*** XXX MATERIAL***NOT SUITABLE FOR MINORS***

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Newfront3.jpg

LMAO :111::cry1: Thanks for the porn!!!!

ng1469 02-27-2009 10:38 AM

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I'm really hoping to get this coin soon, get the FS designation, flip it on ebay and order another one to keep (using a different address)

j-son 02-27-2009 10:52 AM

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i liked the picture with the high relief, maple, eagle, and maple all lined up.

i dont like the airtites with the black ring though...i prefer the direct fitting ones like the mint uses.


nice coins.....not bad for a college kid. :signs1:

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1597277)
LMAO :111::cry1: Thanks for the porn!!!!

You're welcome! I hope you guys can forgive a noob for posting such explicit material!

diversified2 02-27-2009 11:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1597319)
i dont like the airtites with the black ring though...i prefer the direct fitting ones like the mint uses.

Me too except for the ones they don't make Direct Fits for like Phils and leafs then you gotta make do with the ring...

EE_ 02-27-2009 11:03 AM

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Someone is having too much fun showing off their new coin. :playingba

At first, I thought they should have minted the coin in 21.6 karat gold, like the 1907.
After seeing it, I like the look of the 24kt

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 11:05 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1597319)
i liked the picture with the high relief, maple, eagle, and maple all lined up.

i dont like the airtites with the black ring though...i prefer the direct fitting ones like the mint uses.


nice coins.....not bad for a college kid. :signs1:

Thanks!! I am new to numismatics and didn't really know too much about coin storage, so, I figured I would give the air-tites with the black ring a whirl. I don't mind them. I like the gold and black contrast.

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1597338)
Someone is having too much fun showing off their new coin. :playingba

At first, I thought they should have minted the coin in 21.6 karat gold, like the 1907.
After seeing it, I like the look of the 24kt

Haha, I am sorry. I hope it doesn't seem like I am rubbing it in or anything! I kind of went nuts with the pictures because:
1. This is my first "numismatic" coin
2. This is the first time I used my new camera!

diversified2 02-27-2009 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1597338)
Someone is having too much fun showing off their new coin. :playingba

At first, I thought they should have minted the coin in 21.6 karat gold, like the 1907.
After seeing it, I like the look of the 24kt

Me too...it looks richer and makes the GAE look shabby don't ya think?

foolsgold 02-27-2009 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596662)

Thanks Gordon .... beautiful coin.

diversified2 02-27-2009 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596670)

Very Nice!!!!:banana:

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 11:14 AM

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Thanks for the kind words everyone. I hope your guys' coins come in soon!!!

diversified2 02-27-2009 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1597360)
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I hope your guys' coins come in soon!!!

Me too, I want mine soon and a good one like yours. Hope the mint doesn't skate mine across the concrete...

unalga 02-27-2009 11:37 AM

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No rhyme or reason to the Mint's operation these days.

Way past original ship date and NO word from Mint yet as to where it may be.

Must be using the NWTM service system.

j-son 02-27-2009 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1597336)
Me too except for the ones they don't make Direct Fits for like Phils and leafs then you gotta make do with the ring...

for the maple leaf coins i use direct fit model T30 which is means for half dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Airtite-Holders-...QQcmdZViewItem

diversified2 02-27-2009 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1597464)
for the maple leaf coins i use direct fit model T30 which is means for half dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Airtite-Holders-...QQcmdZViewItem

Huh...how's the fit... real tight, a little loose or just right. Musn't scratch up the precious :wink:


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HistoryStudent 02-27-2009 12:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596670)

I come here every MORNING for my daily SMILE :36_1_11:

Sometimes I moan a tad (nah, never, right?) :yes:

But this ABOVE really BRIGHTENS UP my day,:shakehand

It is a BEAUTIFUL picture too! :grin:

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1597373)
Me too, I want mine soon and a good one like yours. Hope the mint doesn't skate mine across the concrete...

One can only hope. I would be furious if mine looked like the one in the link above. Funny thing is, the guy didn't seem too upset about it.

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1597520)
I come here every MORNING for my daily SMILE :36_1_11:

Sometimes I moan a tad (nah, never, right?) :yes:

But this ABOVE really BRIGHTENS UP my day,:shakehand

It is a BEAUTIFUL picture too! :grin:

I am glad I can add some brightness (pun intended) to your morning HS! It sure is a beautiful coin. I never anticipate to let it go!

ng1469 02-27-2009 10:54 PM

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I got the email tonight!!! Hopefully it will be here tomorrow. I guess my ranting on the phone yesterday helped. Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gordon Gekko 02-27-2009 11:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1598761)
I got the email tonight!!! Hopefully it will be here tomorrow. I guess my ranting on the phone yesterday helped. Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suhweet! :565::getdown::RockOn::signs1:

Make sure to post pics!

EE_ 02-27-2009 11:26 PM

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:favorites21::favorites21::favorites21: :favorites21: :favorites21::favorites21::favorites21:

johnstevens 02-28-2009 01:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm a tad late to the party on this one. Can anyone point me to the specs on this coin? And a list of good dealers to purchase from?

THANKS!!

Gordon Gekko 02-28-2009 01:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1599504)
I'm a tad late to the party on this one. Can anyone point me to the specs on this coin? And a list of good dealers to purchase from?

THANKS!!

From the Mint's website:

- 1.000 troy ounce
- .9999 pure gold
- 4 mm thickness
- 27 mm diameter
- 2 strikes at 65 metric tons


In terms of a list of good dealers to purchase from; I don't know of any yet. I know there are some available on Ebay.

foolsgold 02-28-2009 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1599504)
I'm a tad late to the party on this one. Can anyone point me to the specs on this coin? And a list of good dealers to purchase from?

THANKS!!

The mint...one per customer....or fleaBay

http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...category=10191

j-son 02-28-2009 01:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1599504)
I'm a tad late to the party on this one. Can anyone point me to the specs on this coin? And a list of good dealers to purchase from?

THANKS!!

you can also pick one up here:


http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/cate...gh+Relief.aspx

HistoryStudent 02-28-2009 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1599525)

Thanks for that; when they "stiffed" me I forgot about them and took them off "favorites."


Fun to see that common date MS64 were around $2350 each times have doubled in the past few months! :yes:

Gordon Gekko 02-28-2009 05:39 PM

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Short Stack, EE, ng1469,

Did any of you guys get your coins yet??

ng1469 02-28-2009 08:04 PM

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I checked my tracking information and it has a delivery date of 3/2/08. But it said it departed from the last destination which is only like 100 miles from me. I'm not home now and wont be till tomorrow around 5:30 EST, but i know i got my lincoln memorial coins and am hoping someone at my house was there to receive the UHR. I'll let you know as soon as i get home or get a phone call

grinningdog 02-28-2009 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1600072)
I checked my tracking information and it has a delivery date of 3/2/08. But it said it departed from the last destination which is only like 100 miles from me. I'm not home now and wont be till tomorrow around 5:30 EST, but i know i got my lincoln memorial coins and am hoping someone at my house was there to receive the UHR. I'll let you know as soon as i get home or get a phone call

When did yours ship? I received an e mail saying mine shipped yesterday but I cannot find anything with the tracking numbers. I have expedited shipping so will it come UPS or usps? It did not arrive today in any case.

ng1469 02-28-2009 08:20 PM

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The tracking information I got was in the email should be something like 1ZXXXXXXXXXXX for UPS. It should be shipped UPS overnight air. Mine says is shipped yesterday, and im not sure if i got it yet (im pretty sure i would have gotten a call). It should be here Monday at the latest i would expect.

Here is a link to an article about the FIFO news and a survey they have for it:
http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...agles-not.html

j-son 02-28-2009 08:47 PM

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i ordered mine the first day of issue and havent even gotten any tracking numbers yet nor has my credit card been hit.

plus i've ordered from the mint for a few years already and live in NY.

HistoryStudent 02-28-2009 08:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1599859)
Short Stack, EE, ng1469,

Did any of you guys get your coins yet??

Quit RUBBING it in - or you will be on the MOST wanted LIST for trashing! :signs14:

croakersoaker 02-28-2009 09:38 PM

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is this coin still worth buying today at 1339.00 or do yall think the value will go down?

HistoryStudent 03-01-2009 12:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croakersoaker (Post 1600238)
is this coin still worth buying today at 1339.00 or do yall think the value will go down?

I'd buy five right now if they would let me at that price. HONESTLY. :yes:

I really wonder how long they will make them? My guess is this year ONLY and very abbreviated at that - maybe only until Fall. :yes:

They will claim BLANK problems and the ones made will be worth a fortune - who knows? After all they killed 90% of their precious metal coins this year already. We have our own "MEXICO MINT." :504::signs14:

EE_ 03-01-2009 12:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1599859)
Short Stack, EE, ng1469,

Did any of you guys get your coins yet??

Calling the Treasury Dept. Monday morning!
:favorites21::favorites21::favorites21: :favorites21: :favorites21::favorites21::favorites21:

diversified2 03-01-2009 12:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1600461)
We have our own "MICKEY MOUSE MEXICO MINT." :504::signs14:

Good then we can just pay them for our precious with the american peso 'er FRN :cry1:

AV8R 03-01-2009 02:58 AM

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Mintnewsblog is taking a survey on the UHR delivery results, Please take the survey. Only 3 questions to answer. Link: http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/86cfce7836b0d039/

Gordon Gekko 03-01-2009 09:12 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1600147)
Quit RUBBING it in - or you will be on the MOST wanted LIST for trashing! :signs14:

No rubbing intended. I am just anxiously awaiting some more pics because it's such a beautiful coin!:5_1_120:

Gordon Gekko 03-01-2009 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1600101)
The tracking information I got was in the email should be something like 1ZXXXXXXXXXXX for UPS. It should be shipped UPS overnight air. Mine says is shipped yesterday, and im not sure if i got it yet (im pretty sure i would have gotten a call). It should be here Monday at the latest i would expect.

Here is a link to an article about the FIFO news and a survey they have for it:
http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...agles-not.html

Are you planning on posting pics when you get it?

Gordon Gekko 03-01-2009 09:16 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1600133)
i ordered mine the first day of issue and havent even gotten any tracking numbers yet nor has my credit card been hit.

plus i've ordered from the mint for a few years already and live in NY.

It truly is unbelievable how they handled this process. I guess ordering the second day had its perks. It just doesn't seem right though.

johnstevens 03-01-2009 01:14 PM

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Stupid Question? Do you guys think this will be a better bullion coin than the standard Krug, Eagle, Buffalo, Leaf, etc...?

Or do you think that the extra price on these kills that?

Gordon Gekko 03-01-2009 01:35 PM

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Not a stupid question, just not an apples-to-apples comparison. The Ultra High Relief Double Eagle has more "numismatic" value than say a normal Gold American Eagle, Krug, or CML. Less are produced and less often.

Gordon Gekko 03-01-2009 02:22 PM

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FYI, someone has a bid for one on Ebay for $1,850.:36_1_25:

HistoryStudent 03-01-2009 02:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1600998)
Stupid Question? Do you guys think this will be a better bullion coin than the standard Krug, Eagle, Buffalo, Leaf, etc...?

Or do you think that the extra price on these kills that?

Not stupid. Numismatic ITEMS really depend UPON distribution or numbers made and if they are a HIGHLY wanted item. I can tell you the early 1907 Saints are way highly priced for their distribution - because they are highly WANTED! :23_1_22:

So the game plan gets down to this: :wink:

how many they make (boy, that's a wild card!) :thumb.aspx:

how many folks want them - study the 1907 varieties for a MINOR indication of WANT! :wink:

ng1469 03-01-2009 11:35 PM

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My coin is suppose to be delivered tomorrow and there is a blizzard here tonight!!! :36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28: SOOO FIGURES :s15::s15::s15::s15:


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Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-01-2009 11:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My mom ordered one 2 or 3 days after the release date, and they just deducted the $1200 from her checking account a few days ago (almost cleaned out her entire checking account).

Weird.

HistoryStudent 03-02-2009 12:11 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I ordered about two hours past NOON "Oklahoma Rush" cannon going off. I'm still waiting in the line to hear from the MICKEY MOUSE MINT :signs14::thumb.aspx::36_3_12::111:

shortstack 03-02-2009 09:38 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1601945)
My mom ordered one 2 or 3 days after the release date, and they just deducted the $1200 from her checking account a few days ago (almost cleaned out her entire checking account).

Weird.

They hit my debit card for the $1,200 last Wens. Per UPS, the mint has sent the delivery instructions (electronically) but has not delivered the coin to UPS yet. The UPS status has not changed in a weeks time. I keep checking the UPS website to see if the status changes from the current "billing intformation received" so much that I have almost memorized the tracking number.

It's a god sign when they take your money. The mint told me that they gather a bunch of coins together, then make one trip to the airport and give the batch to UPS all at once. Something about internal controls makes them feel that moving a bunch of finished product all at once is easier and safer then lettign the UPS guy pick up the orders that are completed each day. Mine was supposed to ship on Feb 25, at least per the e-mail from the mint.

HistoryStudent 03-02-2009 10:27 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1602405)
They hit my debit card for the $1,200 last Wens. Per UPS, the mint has sent the delivery instructions (electronically) but has not delivered the coin to UPS yet. The UPS status has not changed in a weeks time. I keep checking the UPS website to see if the status changes from the current "billing intformation received" so much that I have almost memorized the tracking number.

It's a god sign when they take your money. The mint told me that they gather a bunch of coins together, then make one trip to the airport and give the batch to UPS all at once. Something about internal controls makes them feel that moving a bunch of finished product all at once is easier and safer then lettign the UPS guy pick up the orders that are completed each day. Mine was supposed to ship on Feb 25, at least per the e-mail from the mint.

Yeah that's GREAT all twenty of the coins that they need an armored CAR and 15 affirmative action guards to accompany to the airport. :yes::111::111::haha::haha::haha::aetsch:

EE_ 03-02-2009 10:46 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got a shipping number! Shipped today!
:getdown::565::5_1_120::yippee::applause_:ARMS1:

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 11:08 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1602405)
They hit my debit card for the $1,200 last Wens. Per UPS, the mint has sent the delivery instructions (electronically) but has not delivered the coin to UPS yet. The UPS status has not changed in a weeks time. I keep checking the UPS website to see if the status changes from the current "billing intformation received" so much that I have almost memorized the tracking number.

It's a god sign when they take your money. The mint told me that they gather a bunch of coins together, then make one trip to the airport and give the batch to UPS all at once. Something about internal controls makes them feel that moving a bunch of finished product all at once is easier and safer then lettign the UPS guy pick up the orders that are completed each day. Mine was supposed to ship on Feb 25, at least per the e-mail from the mint.

Sheesh, I wonder what is taking so darn long?

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 11:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1602534)
I got a shipping number! Shipped today!
:getdown::565::5_1_120::yippee::applause_:ARMS1:

Congrats!!! Can't wait to see some pics!

ng1469 03-02-2009 04:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Finally got it at almost 3PM today. Looks very nice. I'm just going to post 2 pics, front and back. Enjoy

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5914/20501720.jpg


Here's the back
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2564/30298071.jpg

My picture taking skills are not that good and I don't have the best camera/setup for this. Hope you like them!!

HistoryStudent 03-02-2009 05:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1602534)
I got a shipping number! Shipped today!
:getdown::565::5_1_120::yippee::applause_:ARMS1:

I so JEALOUS I do just SPIT!

:signs14::yes::111:

HistoryStudent 03-02-2009 05:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603189)
Finally got it at almost 3PM today. Looks very nice. I'm just going to post 2 pics, front and back. Enjoy

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5914/20501720.jpg


Here's the back
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2564/30298071.jpg

My picture taking skills are not that good and I don't have the best camera/setup for this. Hope you like them!!

NOW I'm REALLY MAD! :36_1_28:

Just kidding - best wishes, :thumb.aspx:


BEAUTIFUL piece of work.

HS :favorites21::favorites21: I'm trying to catch UP.:111:

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 07:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603189)
Finally got it at almost 3PM today. Looks very nice. I'm just going to post 2 pics, front and back. Enjoy

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5914/20501720.jpg


Here's the back
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2564/30298071.jpg

My picture taking skills are not that good and I don't have the best camera/setup for this. Hope you like them!!

Looks beautiful!!!! The dark red box really brings out the 24kt gold!!!:565: Congrats!!!:565:

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
ng1469,

Are you planning on sending it in for any designations/grading?

EE_ 03-02-2009 07:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1603493)
ng1469,

Are you planning on sending it in for any designations/grading?

Gordon G, If you think your coin is perfect, you might want to ship it to PCGS now. I think they are having problems with minting these coins.
I believe there will be very few First Strike 70's. These could be a $7,000 coin in that grade.
Do you own a loupe? Or at least a magnifying glass?
Take a look at your coin...look at the gown that runs paralell next to Lady Liberty's left leg.
On the high edge, do you see two nicks?
If there is, and they are not supposed to be there...you probably have a MS69, and I would just keep it in the box. Tell me what you find.
I got my fingers crossed I get a nice one.

ng1469 03-02-2009 07:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
EE do you have a link to a picture i can look at to see what you are talkin about. I was planning on sending mine in tomorrow, but want to look before i send it

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 07:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1603524)
Gordon G, If you think your coin is perfect, you might want to ship it to PCGS now. I think they are having problems with minting these coins.
I believe there will be very few First Strike 70's. These could be a $7,000 coin in that grade.
Do you own a loupe? Or at least a magnifying glass?
Take a look at your coin...look at the gown that runs paralell next to Lady Liberty's left leg.
On the high edge, do you see two nicks?
If there is, and they are not supposed to be there...you probably have a MS69, and I would just keep it in the box. Tell me what you find.
I got my fingers crossed I get a nice one.

EE,

I do not have a loupe, but, I do think I got a pretty good one. I will look later tonight for the nicks.

Am I even eligible for the first strike even though I took it out of the original box? I haven't opened the capsule. I have heard conflicting things on this.

EE_ 03-02-2009 07:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603531)
EE do you have a link to a picture i can look at to see what you are talkin about. I was planning on sending mine in tomorrow, but want to look before i send it

I can't be sure, but can you see what I'm looking at.
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...010/Front2.jpg[/QUOTE]

ng1469 03-02-2009 08:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Yes i can see that, and mine definitely doesn't have those niks, ill try and take a closeup of mine so you can see it better

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603550)
Yes i can see that, and mine definitely doesn't have those niks, ill try and take a closeup of mine so you can see it better

I don't know if this will help?
How is the rim on yours? Reasonably even all the way around?
http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/pres...UHRObverse.jpg
Look at the rim (bottom) in the US Mint photo
http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/pres...UHRReverse.jpg

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 08:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1603540)
I can't be sure, but can you see what I'm looking at.
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...010/Front2.jpg

[/QUOTE]

I'm not seeing the nicks. Where exactly are they?

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:36 PM

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I'm not seeing the nicks. Where exactly are they?[/QUOTE]

I'm not even sure if they are nicks. You tell me?
You have a beautiful coin, I was just studying what I can see.
I'm looking at the high edge of the gown that starts at the foot and runs vertically.
Do you see what I'm looking at?

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 08:38 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1603630)
I'm not seeing the nicks. Where exactly are they?

I'm not even sure if they are nicks. You tell me?
You have a beautiful coin, I was just studying what I can see.
I'm looking at the high edge of the gown that starts at the foot and runs vertically.
Do you see what I'm looking at?[/QUOTE]

You said her left foot correct? So, it would the one we see on our right as we are looking at the coin.

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1603640)
I'm not even sure if they are nicks. You tell me?
You have a beautiful coin, I was just studying what I can see.
I'm looking at the high edge of the gown that starts at the foot and runs vertically.
Do you see what I'm looking at?

You said her left foot correct? So, it would the one we see on our right as we are looking at the coin.[/QUOTE]

Yes, from the foot and it runs vertically toward her crotch.
It's clear in the photo, but it might not be on the coin.
Look at the photo. about halfway between her coochie and foot

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 08:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1603652)
You said her left foot correct? So, it would the one we see on our right as we are looking at the coin.

Yes, from the foot and it runs vertically toward her crotch.
It's clear in the photo, but it might not be on the coin.
Look at the photo. about halfway between her coochie and foot[/QUOTE]

Haha, I think I see what you're talking about. Do they look like little dimples?

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1603664)
Yes, from the foot and it runs vertically toward her crotch.
It's clear in the photo, but it might not be on the coin.
Look at the photo. about halfway between her coochie and foot

Haha, I think I see what you're talking about. Do they look like little dimples?[/QUOTE]

It is probably the lighting huh?

Gordon Gekko 03-02-2009 08:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1603670)
Haha, I think I see what you're talking about. Do they look like little dimples?

It is probably the lighting huh?[/QUOTE]

Could be. I can't really see them on the other pictures I posted. I am not at home now, so, I'll take a look later tonight. I am kinda bummed out now!:bawling:

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1603673)
It is probably the lighting huh?

Could be. I can't really see them on the other pictures I posted. I am not at home now, so, I'll take a look later tonight. I am kinda bummed out now!:bawling:[/QUOTE]
Don't be bummed, I'm looking at a photo...you have the real thing.
See!
http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/p/4/using_loupe1.jpg

ng1469 03-02-2009 08:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
WOW!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-UHR-20-GOLD...3A1|240%3A1318

EE_ 03-02-2009 08:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603684)

A PCGS will sell for more, and later, maybe much much more!

ng1469 03-02-2009 09:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm sending mine into PCGS tomorrow. Even if it only get MS69 it should still sell for a pretty good premium. I plan on ordering another one (using a different address), but might as well get the premium on the First Strike designation if people are willing to pay it.

EE_ 03-02-2009 09:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1603714)
I'm sending mine into PCGS tomorrow. Even if it only get MS69 it should still sell for a pretty good premium. I plan on ordering another one (using a different address), but might as well get the premium on the First Strike designation if people are willing to pay it.

Just an example of a modern...look at the difference between a 69 and a 70 of the 1995-w PR silver eagle. http://www.pcgs.com/prices/PriceGuid...=Silver+Eagles
That's what happens when there are very few 70's.
I think there will be few of the UHR and who knows, something might even kill the production before the year is over. Maybe the mintage will be lower then anticipated?


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Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-02-2009 09:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
People paying enormous sums for graded bullion coins is like people paying tons of money for long-dated out of the money options. I think that all numismatic premiums will be reevaluated when gold is at $10,000. I want my UHR to remain untouched in its original virginal US Mint chastity box. Only then will I know that it is pure.

HistoryStudent 03-02-2009 11:27 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Matt dear friend,

A fool and his money are easily separated. :thumb.aspx:

You are totally right. :wink:


RULE ONE: from Zapata George

Human Nature never changes. :thumb.aspx:

(greed has killed more men and countries then fear) :signs14:

Fear is KICKING in with 18% unemployment right now and climbing. :s1:

(Fear is five times stronger then GREED!) :cry1:

AV8R 03-03-2009 12:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Are my eyes deceiving me? I received the following from the mint: We shipped the items listed below today.
Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online
Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon.
Track your order at http://catalog.usmint.gov
Questions about returns or cancellations?
Please visit http://catalog.usmint.gov
Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint.
Electronic gift certificates are now available!

Order #: 30828XXX - 1 Order Date: 1/22/09

Sold To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Ship To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Date Shipped: 3/02/09

Amount Charged : 1189.00

Tracking ID
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx


Items included in this shipment:


1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1

shortstack 03-03-2009 08:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My coin arrives today, from the UPS tracking page, note the delay between UPS getting the Billing information (Feb 25th) and the time UPS actually received the coin from the mint (March 2nd).

__________________________________________________ ___
Package Progress
Location Date Local Time Description
JAMAICA,
NY, US 03/03/2009 7:01 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/03/2009 6:17 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 03/03/2009 4:12 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/03/2009 12:32 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
INDIANAPOLIS,
IN, US 03/02/2009 9:48 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/02/2009 6:29 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 02/25/2009 4:07 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED


Tracking results provided by UPS: 03/03/2009 8:35 A.M. ET




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igorthesmall 03-03-2009 08:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Dang the mint sucks. Im glad for you guys that are getting theirs, but still...

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 09:25 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1604470)
My coin arrives today, from the UPS tracking page, note the delay between UPS getting the Billing information (Feb 25th) and the time UPS actually received the coin from the mint (March 2nd).

__________________________________________________ ___
Package Progress
Location Date Local Time Description
JAMAICA,
NY, US 03/03/2009 7:01 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/03/2009 6:17 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 03/03/2009 4:12 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/03/2009 12:32 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
INDIANAPOLIS,
IN, US 03/02/2009 9:48 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
03/02/2009 6:29 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 02/25/2009 4:07 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED


Tracking results provided by UPS: 03/03/2009 8:35 A.M. ET




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Nice! Can't wait to seem some pictures! :565:

shortstack 03-03-2009 10:14 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1604526)
Nice! Can't wait to seem some pictures! :565:

Gordon,

Will I be able to remove the coin from the plastic holder? I will find out tonight anyways, but if it can be removed, then I will take my pics without the holder. Liked your idea of showing other coins in the pics to give a perspective on size. I will also throw a silver eagle in the mix as well. Also be taking some side shots to show the relative thickness of the coins.

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 10:18 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1604628)
Gordon,

Will I be able to remove the coin from the plastic holder? I will find out tonight anyways, but if it can be removed, then I will take my pics without the holder. Liked your idea of showing other coins in the pics to give a perspective on size. I will also throw a silver eagle in the mix as well. Also be taking some side shots to show the relative thickness of the coins.

SS,

IIRC, it can come out of the holder. I could be wrong about that though. Either way, I am looking forward to the pics and congrats!

1BlindEye 03-03-2009 10:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got confirmation of shipment, yesterday:553:.
Got here right now:applause_.... left at the front door:banghead:, next day air.

Considering sending to PCGS but have to become a member (silver). I think it comes out to like 130 bones + my shipping cost.

With reading the responses here, figured worth it and sending it in the box...want to open it...but but:Surrender:

Does this sound about right?:bear_thumb:

1981 03-03-2009 11:01 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Did everybody here get the e-mail from the mint about the projected ship dates? I have never recieved any kind of e-mail communication from the mint after the initial order confirm. My order is "still in process" on the mint phone system, so I guess I'm still in line. Of course the've been doing additional adress verification for a month, which seems odd. Anyhoo, just wondering if everyone is getting these e-mails, thanks.

Bill57 03-03-2009 11:19 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I finally received mine this morning, after getting an email last night advising me that the coin had been sent. I got mine days after those whose order numbers were several thousand above mine (308294xx). The "track order" feature was not working last night. So, as a final insult, a note on my packing list states that "we are changing to serve you better. We have made it easier to...check order status".!
The "first in - first out" policy was a bold-faced lie, and I intend to let the mint know how much I hate being lied to.

C&L 1911 03-03-2009 11:28 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1604702)
Did everybody here get the e-mail from the mint about the projected ship dates? I have never recieved any kind of e-mail communication from the mint after the initial order confirm. My order is "still in process" on the mint phone system, so I guess I'm still in line. Of course the've been doing additional adress verification for a month, which seems odd. Anyhoo, just wondering if everyone is getting these e-mails, thanks.

I never received the shipping confirmation email, either, but I called the customer service this morning and was told my UHR is shipping today. They gave me the tracking number, and while it's not in the UPS system yet, it gives me hope that I'll be getting my coin sooner than later. Now if only they would finally ship my prosperity set, I'd be all set.

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 01:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hey, fellows, when did you guys order?

How long after the gun sounded 1-22-09 at NOON?

Thanks for the INFO.

HS:4_1_72::Surrender:

Az Ag 03-03-2009 01:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
When I got in to work this morning, I had an e-mail from the Mint stating my coin shipped yesterday. I plugged in the tracking number with UPS and it said delivered. Called my wife and she said yes it is there. Can't wait to open the box and see it. :565:

They must finally be getting to the first-day orders. My order was at 12:45 the first day.

Now to decide if I go for a First Strike designation. It is tempting.

1BlindEye 03-03-2009 01:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1604991)
Hey, fellows, when did you guys order?

How long after the gun sounded 1-22-09 at NOON?

Thanks for the INFO.

HS:4_1_72::Surrender:

Got mine confirmed 22 minutes after the trigger pull! 30827XXX:wink:

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 01:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1605011)
When I got in to work this morning, I had an e-mail from the Mint stating my coin shipped yesterday. I plugged in the tracking number with UPS and it said delivered. Called my wife and she said yes it is there. Can't wait to open the box and see it. :565:

They must finally be getting to the first-day orders. My order was at 12:45 the first day.

Now to decide if I go for a First Strike designation. It is tempting.

Thanks for posting your time. :23_1_22:I JUST through to the mint and they said the first day orders were just starting to ship between NOW and
4-24-09. :signs14:

Call the encapsulating PCGS/NGC and talk to them about the rules - maybe you can think about it for a week or two. :wink:



I truly wonder if these coins might turn into a real collectors ITEM. It depends upon the NUMBER made. They are not starting out too well on that score. :yes: They were supposed to start delivery last November, I believe. :favorites21::favorites21::favorites21:

EE_ 03-03-2009 01:59 PM

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http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0764.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0755.jpg

C&L 1911 03-03-2009 02:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1604991)
Hey, fellows, when did you guys order?

How long after the gun sounded 1-22-09 at NOON?

Thanks for the INFO.

HS:4_1_72::Surrender:

Mine was put in at ~ 12:40 EST; my order # is 30831xxx. Supposedly shipping today; got the tracking number, but it's not in the UPS system yet.

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 02:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Looks amazing!! Have you had a chance to visually inspect it?

ng1469 03-03-2009 04:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Shipped out my UHR to pcgs today. Hopefully it wont take them too long to get it back to me. Crossing my fingers for a ms70 :5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 04:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BlindEye (Post 1605020)
Got mine confirmed 22 minutes after the trigger pull! 30827XXX:wink:

Thanks. I NOTED the time. I ordered at 2 hours plus. Because of you guys - HEREIN - that IS!

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 04:51 PM

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This is a rich LOOKING picture - loved the varied COLORS of GOLD dripping off that specimen. :36_3_12:

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 04:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1605325)
Shipped out my UHR to pcgs today. Hopefully it wont take them too long to get it back to me. Crossing my fingers for a ms70 :5_1_120:

Praying you get what you want - plus a first strike designation TOO! :wink::banana:bancha:banana:bancha:getdown:

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 04:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just checked EBAY and they are asking an arm and a leg for non-delivered ones as of yet. Some say they are their mom and dads.

Boy, this whole thing is sure amazing. :thumb.aspx::thumb.aspx:

EE_ 03-03-2009 06:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605111)
Looks amazing!! Have you had a chance to visually inspect it?

Hi GG, I'm still assessing it. I'm going to pop it out of the capsule and look at it again.
It is a nice one, no imperfections, rim is nice, no nicks, dings or scratches. Not having another to compare to, the only thing I can say, under magnification, is the planchet nice enough, and does it have the pizzazz to make a 70? I have until Thursday to decide...Friday is the only day of the month you can do walk in submissions at PCGS.
I'm looking at getting the gold package and getting the four free submissions.
Who knows how these guys decide between a 69 and 70? Sometimes I think is depends on their mood of that day.
Getting these graded is speculating...how many will they produce this year?

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 06:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1605573)
Hi GG, I'm still assessing it.
It is a nice one, no imperfections, rim is nice, no nicks, dings or scratches. Not having another to compare to, the only thing I can say, under magnification, is the planchet nice enough, and does it have the pizzazz to make a 70? I have untill Thrusday to decide...Friday is the only day of the month you can do walk in submissions at PCGS.
I'm looking at getting the gold package and getting the four free submissions.
Who knows how these guys decide between a 69 and 70.

I am glad you got a good one. I have seen some that weren't so lucky. Personally, I am just so torn in terms of whether or not to submit it to PCGS. I have never done so and am aware that it will entail me signing up and paying a lot of costs to do so. On the flip side, I saw one go for like $3,200 the other day on Ebay (First Strike MS-70). Decisions, decisions.

EE_ 03-03-2009 06:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605579)
I am glad you got a good one. I have seen some that weren't so lucky. Personally, I am just so torn in terms of whether or not to submit it to PCGS. I have never done so and am aware that it will entail me signing up and paying a lot of costs to do so. On the flip side, I saw one go for like $3,200 the other day on Ebay (First Strike MS-70). Decisions, decisions.

It's a tough call, if you get a 70, you can't lose.
If something kills production early, it could be profitable too.
If I take four coins in and get two of them to get top grades, it would be worth it for me.

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1605587)
It's a tough call, if you get a 70, you can't lose.
If something kills production early, it could be profitable too.
If I take four coins in and get two of them to get top grades, it would be worth it for me.

But, for my case, do you think it would be worth the gamble? I only have one coin to submit.

EE_ 03-03-2009 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605598)
But, for my case, do you think it would be worth the gamble? I only have one coin to submit.

It is a gamble...but if your ever planning to get it graded, you might as well get the First Strike.
They are selling for $1,750 for unknown quality. $3,250 for a 70 FS.
It would be nice to see what ebay is fetching for PCGS 70 FS's.
If you're just planning to hold it for years, maybe just keep it as is.
If you would sell it for the right price when you feel they have peaked, well, then maybe take a shot?
Tough call.
I try not to get too attached to things when there's a big profit to be made.
With the silver membership, it looks like it will cost you $115 plus the cost for you to ship it to them.
With the gold membership, I can get four done for about $170, that includes the FS on the UHR.

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1605647)
It is a gamble...but if your ever planning to get it graded, you might as well get the First Strike.
They are selling for $1,750 for unknown quality. $3,250 for a 70 FS.
It would be nice to see what ebay is fetching for PCGS 70 FS's.
If you're just planning to hold it for years, maybe just keep it as is.
If you would sell it for the right price when you feel they have peaked, well, then maybe take a shot?
Tough call.
I try not to get too attached to things when there's a big profit to be made.
With the silver membership, it looks like it will cost you $115 plus the cost for you to ship it to them.
With the gold membership, I can get four done for about $170, that includes the FS on the UHR.

Thanks for the insight EE. I really appreciate it. Since I am planning on keeping the coin for a long time, I guess I will not send it in to get the first strike designation or the grading.


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HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 07:29 PM

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I started a new thread because I found the way COIN WORLD MAGAZINE got hold of the UHR breech info from a prior govt. system's analyst.

The COMMENTS from other collectors are really interesting.

:4_1_72::4_1_72:

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 07:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1605684)
I started a new thread because I found the way COIN WORLD MAGAZINE got hold of the UHR breech info from a prior govt. system's analyst.

The COMMENTS from other collectors are really interesting.

:4_1_72::4_1_72:

I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up!:bear_thumb:

C&L 1911 03-03-2009 07:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605598)
But, for my case, do you think it would be worth the gamble? I only have one coin to submit.

Here's how I look at it... It costs around $130 to have a coin graded (membership including). So, the question is, are you willing to throw away $130 if your coin comes back as non-FS MS69? Because if it does, you might as well break it out of the slab and put it back in the original box, since I'm sure 99% of UHRs would be in MS69 condition from the Mint (with the exception of the coins that have obvious damage as seen in earlier posted pictures). On the other hand, you may be able to make a $1000+ profit with your $130 investment by reselling it on eBay (after subtracting all of the fees, shipping costs, etc.). Or, if you get really lucky and get MS70, you may be able to profit even more. So, is this gamble worth loosing $130 to you?

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1605703)
Here's how I look at it... It costs around $130 to have a coin graded (membership including). So, the question is, are you willing to throw away $130 if your coin comes back as non-FS MS69? Because if it does, you might as well break it out of the slab and put it back in the original box, since I'm sure 99% of UHRs would be in MS69 condition from the Mint (with the exception of the coins that have obvious damage as seen in earlier posted pictures). On the other hand, you may be able to make a $1000+ profit with your $130 investment by reselling it on eBay (after subtracting all of the fees, shipping costs, etc.). Or, if you get really lucky and get MS70, you may be able to profit even more. So, is this gamble worth loosing $130 to you?

You can add a few EXTRA coins to be graded also. If you have NEVER done it - do it.

However:
I played ring-around-the-rosy with PCGS when they LOST 10 of my Saints (several MS65s too) for 10 weeks and gave me a super headache :thumb.aspx: and SQUAT :moon::36_1_63: for a reward. You think the mint bad right now :4_1_72: - try to deal with the hardnoses :yes:at PCGS if you send in coins to them. I buy PCGS - but I'd never send them ... oh, forget it.

Then I went to NGC - which was better - much better - for ME sending coins too.

ANACS was the BEST to date - but they are not as highly rated as the PCGS/NGC big boys. :yes:

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 07:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1605703)
Here's how I look at it... It costs around $130 to have a coin graded (membership including). So, the question is, are you willing to throw away $130 if your coin comes back as non-FS MS69? Because if it does, you might as well break it out of the slab and put it back in the original box, since I'm sure 99% of UHRs would be in MS69 condition from the Mint (with the exception of the coins that have obvious damage as seen in earlier posted pictures). On the other hand, you may be able to make a $1000+ profit with your $130 investment by reselling it on eBay (after subtracting all of the fees, shipping costs, etc.). Or, if you get really lucky and get MS70, you may be able to profit even more. So, is this gamble worth loosing $130 to you?


So, if it seems that only 1% of the coins will be graded M70, I guess it just wouldn't be worth is to gamble $130 and pray for an MS-70. I am very new to numismatics, so that is why I am asking such noobish questions.

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605721)
So, if it seems that only 1% of the coins will be graded M70, I guess it just wouldn't be worth is to gamble $130 and pray for an MS-70. I am very new to numismatics, so that is why I am asking such noobish questions.

There are NO stupid questions :thumb.aspx: - GG - frankly, I would BUY some sort of membership :yes: and submit the correct number :36_1_32v:of coins (bullion too :yes:) because they want to satisfy your 4 coin PCGS - 5 coin NGC order with your first order. You have a year to then submit and pay big bucks for future orders :moon::111:- I believe - they may have changed the rules.


NGC is probably better on the phones - but in this economy - my guess is that all are HURTING somewhat because JOHNNY 6-Pack is short a few bottles. :111: PS NGC will give you a slightly better chance at a MS70 - (IMVsuperHO)

CoinNut 03-03-2009 10:06 PM

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:36_1_63: Will be outside waiting for my UHR in the morning. Got the shipping e-mail NOW, for order time 12:57 1/22/09. Depending on quaility,it either gets shipped tomorrow to PCGS or U.S. Mint.

Gordon Gekko 03-03-2009 10:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1605906)
:36_1_63: Will be outside waiting for my UHR in the morning. Got the shipping e-mail NOW, for order time 12:57 1/22/09. Depending on quaility,it either gets shipped tomorrow to PCGS or U.S. Mint.

Congrats! Hopefully you'll do the former and not have to worry about that latter. I can't even imagine how much of a hassle that would be.:confused_ma:

foolsgold 03-03-2009 10:35 PM

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This arrived in my mail 10:30PM eastern time

Finally the US Mint is a mickey Mouse Operation.


We shipped the items listed below today.
Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online
Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon.
Track your order at http://catalog.usmint.gov
Questions about returns or cancellations?
Please visit http://catalog.usmint.gov
Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint.
Electronic gift certificates are now available!

Order #: 30836xxx - 1 Order Date: 1/22/09

Sold To:

Ship To:

Date Shipped: 3/03/09

Amount Charged : 1193.95

Tracking ID

1ZExxx

Items included in this shipment:


1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1

:565:

EE_ 03-03-2009 10:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1605948)
Congrats! Hopefully you'll do the former and not have to worry about that latter. I can't even imagine how much of a hassle that would be.:confused_ma:

Some PICS to look at from the blog HS posted.
Check out the bottom pictures, out of the capsule.
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....coins&tid=1401

HistoryStudent 03-03-2009 10:53 PM

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:yes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1605974)
Some PICS to look at from the blog HS posted.
Check out the bottom pictures, out of the capsule.
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....coins&tid=1401

EE - thank YOU :36_1_32v: for the Pictures - gives me a heads-up as to what-is-coming sooner-or-later! :4_1_72::signs14:

shortstack 03-04-2009 08:20 AM

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This morning I noticed footprints left by the delivery guy yesterday - I guess I left the coin out all last night...

shortstack 03-04-2009 08:27 AM

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A few more pics here

mshen11 03-04-2009 08:29 AM

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when is the cut off date for first strike (postage on the box)?

Gordon Gekko 03-04-2009 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1606377)
This morning I noticed footprints left by the delivery guy yesterday - I guess I left the coin out all last night...

BEAUTIFUL SS!! Congratulations! Now, what the heck are you doing not wearing any gloves!?!?!

P.S. Thanks for being brave and taking it out of the capsule! :565:

j-son 03-04-2009 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mshen11 (Post 1606392)
when is the cut off date for first strike (postage on the box)?

This coin qualifies to be designated as EARLY RELEASE - if it is shipped in an unopened box to be graded by NGC by March 9, 2009 or as FIRST STRIKE - if is shipped in an unopened box to be graded by PCGS by March 11, 2009.



http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...QQcmdZViewItem

ng1469 03-04-2009 10:04 AM

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It doesnt have to be in an unopened box to get the first strike/early release designation if shipped to them before the cutoff date. If you wish to send the coin in AFTER the cutoff date it must be in the original shipping box that you received from the mint and they will still give you the first strike designation on it no matter how far past the date you are. I just sent mine in yesterday, only the coin in its capsule and its fine as long as its most marked (for PCGS) before the 11th

1981 03-04-2009 10:14 AM

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Well after only half an hour on hold and one disconnection, I was able to talk to a mint rep this morning. She said that she expected the shipping situation to begin to pick up in about three weeks, didn't say why. I called because my order has been in "address verification" for over a month, and I never received a letter or anything else. She told me that the verification process is a manual process and basically I have to wait for them to get to mine (ordered Feb 4th) and should expect it at "any time" between now and May 24th, even though based on my order date I should get it by April 24th. Almost cancelled the order, would rather pick up some silver on the dip rather than listen to the mints lies any longer, but the rep sounded like she’s been taking it in the teeth on this issue and I was afraid she might cry if I cancelled on her. Oh well, maybe I'll get an MS70 for my patience.

Edit: She also said that they have first day people who haven't recieved their orders. I feel really foolish, I didn't order day one 'cause I wouldn't have the cash until Feb 4, and was afraid they would try to ship before then if I ordered too soon. Boy was I wrong.

diversified2 03-04-2009 10:39 AM

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Mine is still :MIA::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28: Run around at the Mint lies....lies....lies....:banghead:

EE_ 03-04-2009 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1606567)
Mine is still :MIA::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28::36_1_28: Run around at the Mint lies....lies....lies....:banghead:

If you'd get out and shovel the drive once in a while, maybe you'd find it in a snow drift? :36_1_63:
Hope you get it soon! :23_1_22:

Gordon Gekko 03-04-2009 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1606623)
If you'd get out and shovel the drive once in a while, maybe you'd find it in a snow drift? :36_1_63:
Hope you get it soon! :23_1_22:

:111: Seriously! That snow isn't going to shovel itself!

diversified2 03-04-2009 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1606623)
If you'd get out and shovel the drive once in a while, maybe you'd find it in a snow drift? :36_1_63:
Hope you get it soon! :23_1_22:

I've done enough shoveling this year!!!! If it snows anymore I am moving to the South!!!! My credit card has not even been charged yet...The not so nice Mint rep said it should ship out next week at the latest...yada....yada...FRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:36_1_28:

CoinNut 03-04-2009 02:07 PM

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:yes: Arrived this morning. Did not "own" it very long.:smokin:(If I don't hold it, I don't own it).......Went in to get that pretty little flag lable..........Ordered 1st day...12:57 pm. Got the shipping info last night.......:s15: Still no excuse for the mint to hold up orders,because of those "Books" noone cares about:puke:

1981 03-04-2009 02:14 PM

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We should have some kind of protest where everybody smashes an egg in their book and then mails it to the Mint Director as a protest of the mint's terrible handling of this whole affair.

Bill57 03-04-2009 02:40 PM

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There might be a better, unified means to express our dissatisfaction. For now, I'm writing a letter to the attention of "the liar it may concern".

Proof Like Morgan 03-04-2009 03:01 PM

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Hey guys! I've seen the early release from NGC go for a nice profit. Now there is a First Strike PCGS on the bay. Let the games begin. By the way what was PCGS thinking slabbing this coin sideways?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...QQcmdZViewItem

HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1606893)
We should have some kind of protest where everybody smashes an egg in their book and then mails it to the Mint Director as a protest of the mint's terrible handling of this whole affair.

You sound like a TEA PARTY PROTESTER - we could always TAR & FEATHER them - JUST KIDDING; yeah, right! :111::111:

HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 03:03 PM

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Like I mentioned PCGS doesn't care to much for the clients - meaning US! :signs14::111::111:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Proof Like Morgan (Post 1606966)
Hey guys! I've seen the early release from NGC go for a nice profit. Now there is a First Strike PCGS on the bay. Let the games begin. By the way what was PCGS thinking slabbing this coin sideways?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...QQcmdZViewItem


HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1606937)
There might be a better, unified means to express our dissatisfaction. For now, I'm writing a letter to the attention of "the liar it may concern".

"OR - A million man march for CHANGE to Washington, D.C., carring buckets of tar and feathers? Starting with the PORK BARREL folks - except RON PAUL! :signs14::111::111:"

Proof Like Morgan 03-04-2009 03:08 PM

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PCGS and the mint are really making this UHR quite the spectacle. Now It looks like I have to worry about PCGS sending my coin back sideways. Jeez :no_ma:


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ng1469 03-04-2009 03:11 PM

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Look at the auctions that ended today. $2k for closed box coins.. wow, just wow

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/items...pcgs&_osacat=0

EE_ 03-04-2009 03:34 PM

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Here it is! You can have it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...1%7C240%3A1318

foolsgold 03-04-2009 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1607032)

I offered $50 that balances out the asking price of $22,999:111:

Buy It Now price: $22,999.00
Your offer price: $50.00
Your terms: --
Offer expires: Mar-06-09 13:06:12 PST

C&L 1911 03-04-2009 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1607070)
I offered $50 that balances out the asking price of $22,999:111:

That price includes a bag of that stuff he's on. :confused_ma:

HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1607032)

Pretty coin too bad PCGS doesn't know how their new holders work. Maybe they are like the old "GREEN RATTLERS" that slip and slide around.

Maybe they could ask their Chinese COUNTERFEITERS for their holders?

:111::111::111::111::111::111::111::111:

EE_ 03-04-2009 04:44 PM

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If that coin brings anywhere near that price, it will set a new price on PCGS 70 FS's
In all the other holders you can spin the coin inside, by dropping the holder on the edge on a table. It moves little by little once you get the technique down. I've done it on a couple. It takes time though.

foolsgold 03-04-2009 04:59 PM

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EE do all PCGS FS's get a 70 designation?

ng1469 03-04-2009 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1607122)
If that coin brings anywhere near that price, it will set a new price on PCGS 70 FS's
In all the other holders you can spin the coin inside, by dropping the holder on the edge on a table. It moves little by little once you get the technique down. I've done it on a couple. It takes time though.

I would really like to see what the offers are that they have gotten. I can only imagine how much some people are willing to spend. I'm guessing he put it that high because he had no idea how much it was worth and didnt want to auction it off so he is just gunna let people send him offers till a day or 2 before the BIN period ends.

EE_ 03-04-2009 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1607135)
EE do all PCGS FS's get a 70 designation?

MS 70 is a perfect coin...it is like winning a small lottery.
Most of these will be MS 69
The "First Strike" designation is for coins that were shipped or post marked in the first 30 days of their release.
It is a marketing ploy that people with deep pockets like to collect.
I should add the PCGS is the top grader and the strictest of all grading companies.
That's why they command more $$$ then NGC or the others.

HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1607184)
MS 70 is a perfect coin...it is like winning a small lottery.
Most of these will be MS 69
The "First Strike" designation is for coins that were shipped or post marked in the first 30 days of their release.
It is a marketing ploy that people with deep pockets like to collect.
I should add the PCGS is the top grader and the strictest of all grading companies.
That's why they command more $$$ then NGC or the others.

On the coin blog they mentioned some scam where coins are being switched - and they are shipping the MS69 to the unsuspected ones - and keeping their MS70 for sale on Ebay.

If they do the work slow enough they can sell about a hunderd off with none the wiser. They could be using the public's coins and just shipping much slower than usual - PCGS made me wait 10 weeks with hardly a KISS my sweet Button. Dirty rotten crooks! Just something else to worrry about. What we need is a great bunch of cops to clean up the whole government mess. But like the 42 billion in PORK FAT per McCain - "It's busineess as usual" as stated prior. :signs14::111:

EE_ 03-04-2009 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1607291)
On the coin blog they mentioned some scam where coins are being switched - and they are shipping the MS69 to the unsuspected ones - and keeping their MS70 for sale on Ebay.

If they do the work slow enough they can sell about a hunderd off with none the wiser. They could be using the public's coins and just shipping much slower than usual - PCGS made me wait 10 weeks with hardly a KISS my sweet Button. Dirty rotten crooks! Just something else to worrry about. What we need is a great bunch of cops to clean up the whole government mess. But like the 42 billion in PORK FAT per McCain - "It's busineess as usual" as stated prior. :signs14::111:

I photo and document every little nuance of the coin, so I know it's mine.
On Friday I will be walking two UHR's through personally.
They offer the public walk through one day a month. So I will be in and out on the same day.
I trust no one!...cept maybe Mom. That's about it. :wink:

Apocalypto 03-04-2009 08:29 PM

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Sorry, I'm not selling.

HistoryStudent 03-04-2009 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1607335)
I photo and document every little nuance of the coin, so I know it's mine.
On Friday I will be walking two UHR's through personally.
They offer the public walk through one day a month. So I will be in and out on the same day.
I trust no one!...cept maybe Mom. That's about it. :wink:

I think we are from the same type home: MOM drowned all the dumb ones. Just Kidding. PS I'm jealous - I wish I had a walk through - maybe that's the way I can USE PCGS again - THANKS! :signs14::111::111::111:

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:02 AM

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I can't believe someone has a "Buy it Now" of $23,000 for the MS70 First Strike. It is really making me contemplate sending it in to PCGS and gambling ~$130. Anyone else taking the gamble who didn't plan on it?

P.S. I took the coin out of the mint box. I can still get the First Strike designation correct? it just has to be sent in the case?

croakersoaker 03-05-2009 09:19 AM

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i purchased this coin the other day at the 1339.00 price now it is 1289 should i cancel and reorder?

EE_ 03-05-2009 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1608290)
I can't believe someone has a "Buy it Now" of $23,000 for the MS70 First Strike. It is really making me contemplate sending it in to PCGS and gambling ~$130. Anyone else taking the gamble who didn't plan on it?

P.S. I took the coin out of the mint box. I can still get the First Strike designation correct? it just has to be sent in the case?

You have today and four more days to get the First Strike label.

foolsgold 03-05-2009 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croakersoaker (Post 1608331)
i purchased this coin the other day at the 1339.00 price now it is 1289 should i cancel and reorder?

I would, hell how many days would this delay your delivery.

j-son 03-05-2009 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croakersoaker (Post 1608331)
i purchased this coin the other day at the 1339.00 price now it is 1289 should i cancel and reorder?

absolutely! thats a great privilege.

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croakersoaker (Post 1608331)
i purchased this coin the other day at the 1339.00 price now it is 1289 should i cancel and reorder?

I would the mint has their act together NOW and will be shipping them like "LUCY Arnez in the Chocolate Factory :5_1_120::111:- too bad she was eating so many -and you save." We are only allowed one as you know.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608338)
You have today and four more days to get the First Strike label.

I am sure I have already asked this, but, are you sending yours in EE?

EE_ 03-05-2009 09:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1608363)
I am sure I have already asked this, but, are you sending yours in EE?

I'm personally walking two through tomorrow morning...wish me luck!
If there was more time, I'd offer to walk yours through too. It would have cost you $114 plus the shipping back and forth to me.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608366)
I'm personally walking two through tomorrow morning...wish me luck!

Ah, gotcha! Good luck sir!:565:

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:41 AM

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EE,

I think I am going to send mine in tomorrow. What would be my best course of action? I.E. Buy the Silver Membership at $50 and pay for the submission, or, get the Gold Membership ($129) and use a free submission to send it in? Thanks a lot EE. I am such an amateur.

EE_ 03-05-2009 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1608386)
EE,

I think I am going to send mine in tomorrow. What would be my best course of action? I.E. Buy the Silver Membership at $50 and pay for the submission, or, get the Gold Membership ($129) and use a free submission to send it in? Thanks a lot EE. I am such an amateur.

It's probably too late for you.
First you to have to order a package with the forms and club #...you would have to get them next day aired to you, then send it all back to be there by Wednsday.
If you screw up filling out the forms, it's over.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608398)
It's probably too late for you.
First you to have to order a package with the forms and club #...you would have to get them next day aired to you, then send it all back to be there by Wednsday.
If you screw up filling out the forms, it's over.

Hmmm, I have a local "PCGS Authorized" dealer. Could I submit it through him?

EE_ 03-05-2009 09:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1608402)
Hmmm, I have a local "PCGS Authorized" dealer. Could I submit it through him?

That might work, a phone call would tell you that? tick tick tick goes the clock.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608416)
That might work, a phone call would tell you that? tick tick tick goes the clock.

Haha, well, I called him the other day when I first got the coin and he advised me not to send it in because there was such a low chance of getting an MS70 grading and some other reasons. I guess I'll call him back today. He is just kind of hard to deal with. One of those coin shop owner personalities.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 10:33 AM

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Just talked to a customer service rep at PCGS. He confirmed that the coin can be sent in the capsule only, BUT, they have to RECEIVE it before 3/11/09. I'm assuming if I overnight it they will for sure receive it before the 11th, but, a member earlier said that they didn't actually recieve a coin they sent weeks after they sent it. I am going nuts over here trying to figure out if I should send it in tomorrow or not! SOS

diversified2 03-05-2009 10:40 AM

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GG I wish I had your problem...:moon::sarcasm:

EE_ 03-05-2009 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1608532)
Just talked to a customer service rep at PCGS. He confirmed that the coin can be sent in the capsule only, BUT, they have to RECEIVE it before 3/11/09. I'm assuming if I overnight it they will for sure receive it before the 11th, but, a member earlier said that they didn't actually recieve a coin they sent weeks after they sent it. I am going nuts over here trying to figure out if I should send it in tomorrow or not! SOS

You're going to jump through hoops to get this done.
It's a long shot and a speculative play to get any value out of it.
The odds are against you to only recover the cost at best.
But what if you did get a PCGS MS70 FS?
I little happy dance would be in order! :565::getdown:bancha:10_1_20::yippee::banana:


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Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608550)
You're going to jump through hoops to get this done.
It's a long shot and a speculative play to get any value out of it.
The odds are against you to only recover the cost at best.
But what if you did get a PCGS MS70 FS?
I little happy dance would be in order! :565::getdown:bancha:10_1_20::yippee::banana:

Yea, I know it's a gamble, but, I think it's worth the $100 or so that I would have to fork out. I am just trying to figure out if I need to overnight it to ensure PCGS gets it before 3/11/09 or if it just has to be postmarked before 3/11/09.

EE_ 03-05-2009 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1608548)
GG I wish I had your problem...:moon::sarcasm:

lol Cheer up girl...you'll get it soon.

diversified2 03-05-2009 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608556)
lol Cheer up girl...you'll get it soon.

I think my patience has been stretched very thin here...I see alot of people are getting their coins that placed orders when I did and after I did...Thanks for the warm wishes :23_1_22:

grinningdog 03-05-2009 11:40 AM

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Is there any value if it only grades a ms69 fs?

foolsgold 03-05-2009 12:11 PM

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Good Question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by grinningdog (Post 1608693)
Is there any value if it only grades a ms69 fs?

Feast your eyes on this beauty....In the box she stays.

http://goldismoney.info/forums/pictu...&pictureid=584

1981 03-05-2009 01:34 PM

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You edited out all the good parts.

unalga 03-05-2009 01:45 PM

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I love how they have a ship date for "first strike" when many who bought on the first day still have not received their coin.

Just ore proof that the "first strike" is just a game.

smyles 03-05-2009 01:57 PM

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I ordered the first day order #308533xx. Still nothing. No cc charge. Can't get through on the 800 number. Typical government operation. Good thing I'm in no hurry to sell. This is my first and probably last experience with the US mint.

And we have millions of sheeple voting for more of this governemt run BS. Where did my freedom loving country go?

EE_ 03-05-2009 01:59 PM

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I'm seeing someone is reporting a $12,500 auction bid on a MS70 FS with 4 days to go. I'll report if I find out more.

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1608568)
I think my patience has been stretched very thin here...I see alot of people are getting their coins that placed orders when I did and after I did...Thanks for the warm wishes :23_1_22:

Got mine ordered it a week later on the 29th: what happened to you? :signs14:You must be on the really bad POOP NO-GO list? :yes::yes:

Got YA there didn't I? :111::111:

I'm in line just like you :thumb.aspx: - and it's a longgggggggggggggggg One.

Ordered 2 hours after the GUN because I read it on here :ARMS1:. They will ship out by the 6th which is tomorrow - I'd BET YA.:banana::banana:bancha

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1608996)
I ordered the first day order #308533xx. Still nothing. No cc charge. Can't get through on the 800 number. Typical government operation. Good thing I'm in no hurry to sell. This is my first and probably last experience with the US mint.

And we have millions of sheeple voting for more of this governemt run BS. Where did my freedom loving country go?

:signs14: You have to PUNCH "O" and wait & wait & wait & wait. :thumb.aspx::thumb.aspx:

After about an hour some Mr. Mickey Mouse MOY's :yes: civil serpeant who been jobbed out from probably the Country of India will answer - and they are all reasonably nice - but rather evasive like a crook caught in the act with their pants down. :111::111:

You'll get the standard answer "they are shipping now and you'll get yours in the next three months sometime - someday - someway - MAYBE?"

:36_1_25::36_1_25::36_1_25: Kinda make your EYES BUG out. :36_1_25::36_1_25: Frankly, I'd buy ten of these if allowed by the rationing gone-down-the-drain US govt.

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unalga (Post 1608984)
I love how they have a ship date for "first strike" when many who bought on the first day still have not received their coin.

Just ore proof that the "first strike" is just a game.

It's enough :thumb.aspx: to really Pi$$ you off a tad - :signs14: But let's hope you get the deadline date on your BOX - :yes:

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 02:32 PM

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I'm going to roll the dice and send mine in tomorrow. I called PCGS AGAIN and the lady I spoke with said that the package just has to be POSTMARKED by March 11th and it can be sent in the capsle only. I am just going to order another coin so I can have one graded and one to look at in the purrty box.

C&L 1911 03-05-2009 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609090)
I'm going to roll the dice and send mine in tomorrow. I called PCGS AGAIN and the lady I spoke with said that the package just has to be POSTMARKED by March 11th and it can be sent in the capsle only. I am just going to order another coin so I can have one graded and one to look at in the purrty box.

Don't you have to get the membership paperwork first, fill it out and send it back to them before you can ship the coin to them?

EE_ 03-05-2009 02:36 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270353642583
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230329096073
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120387517794

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1609101)
Don't you have to get the membership paperwork first, fill it out and send it back to them before you can ship the coin to them?

There's a PCGS Authorized Dealer 2 blocks down from my work. I am going to submit it through them.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 02:46 PM

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Wow! I wonder how much they will actually sell for?

ng1469 03-05-2009 02:49 PM

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PCGS get my coins today. Hope it doesnt take them too long to grade!! Crossing my fingers for a $5000+ coin :10_1_20:

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1609140)
PCGS get my coins today. Hope it doesnt take them too long to grade!! Crossing my fingers for a $5000+ coin :10_1_20:

I'm so jealous! I am sending mine in tomorrow. Did you send the coin in the capsle by itself or in the original mint packaging? Also, did you submit it through a dealer?

ng1469 03-05-2009 02:59 PM

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I just sent the capsule and i have had a membership since January (planned on sending this coin in from the beginning so i got the membership early.) I also sent in some other coins with my voucher. I talked to a lady at PCGS about submitting the UHR with a voucher and having other coins with it, but she said I had to submit the UHR separate to get the First Strike on it. Just so you know with the voucher you have to submit all the coins at once. i.e. if you get a voucher for 4 free submissions you have to submit 4 coins at once. The total cost to submit the UHR was like $79 + membership fees. I dont know if they allow you to use a voucher and get a coin with First Strike, you might have to call them again :smile:
Either way, good luck hope you get a 70!! :565: :5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:03 PM

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Thanks for all the INFO on sending in the coins.

:23_1_22::5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:03 PM

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Those folks are INSTANT thousandaires! :111::111:

End of Hope 03-05-2009 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1608338)
You have today and four more days to get the First Strike label.

A designation which means nothing.

EE_ 03-05-2009 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1609187)
A designation which means nothing.

Obama has a designation that means nothing and people are still buying him.
Suckers! :wavey:

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1609187)
A designation which means nothing.

It may or may not mean anything, but, if people are willing to pay up for it, I'm all for it!

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1609162)
I just sent the capsule and i have had a membership since January (planned on sending this coin in from the beginning so i got the membership early.) I also sent in some other coins with my voucher. I talked to a lady at PCGS about submitting the UHR with a voucher and having other coins with it, but she said I had to submit the UHR separate to get the First Strike on it. Just so you know with the voucher you have to submit all the coins at once. i.e. if you get a voucher for 4 free submissions you have to submit 4 coins at once. The total cost to submit the UHR was like $79 + membership fees. I dont know if they allow you to use a voucher and get a coin with First Strike, you might have to call them again :smile:
Either way, good luck hope you get a 70!! :565: :5_1_120:

Thanks for the info ng. I am going to be submitting it through a dealer, so, I won't be enrolling in the program. We'll see how it goes. MS70, come to papa!

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609210)
It may or may not mean anything, but, if people are willing to pay up for it, I'm all for it!

Sadly I totally agree with both of you - a fool and his money are easily separated - until they figure it out. :yes:

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609213)
Thanks for the info ng. I am going to be submitting it through a dealer, so, I won't be enrolling in the program. We'll see how it goes. MS70, come to papa!

Take a picture of it - to see if you get the same one back - if not look for a MS69 GG.

Be aware. Especially theough a dealer. Folks love to rip off the NEWBEs.

HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609210)
It may or may not mean anything, but, if people are willing to pay up for it, I'm all for it!

Sadly I totally agree with both of you - a fool and his money are easily separated - until they figure it out. :yes: Heck MS65 Saints are going for almost $3,000.00 now.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1609223)
Take a picture of it - to see if you get the same one back - if not look for a MS69 GG.

Be aware. Especially theough a dealer. Folks love to rip off the NEWBEs.

I have taken a bunch of pictures of it.

All of this controversy is kinda making me not want to send it in!


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HistoryStudent 03-05-2009 03:52 PM

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Have SOME GUTS! :signs14:It will be OKAY - there are way too many TEASERS out there - don't look at me. :111::111::111::111:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609235)
I have taken a bunch of pictures of it.

All of this controversy is kinda making me not want to send it in!


Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1608768)
Good Question...



Feast your eyes on this beauty....In the box she stays.

http://goldismoney.info/forums/pictu...&pictureid=584

Awesome! I assume you are planning on sending it in for grading?

foolsgold 03-05-2009 05:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609421)
Awesome! I assume you are planning on sending it in for grading?

Maybe I haven't decided yet. It goes against my better judgement even if I can turn a good profit, but we shall see.

ng1469 03-05-2009 06:03 PM

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I was just doing a little searching and after looking through all the completed auctions on ebay for the UHR i found one person that bought 7 of them!! :36_1_25:
There was a handful that bought 3 and even more that bought 2. Some of the auctions had private buyers but these people are crazy. Unless the guy had buyers for the 7 coins or he thinks these things are really going to appreciate a bunch, he must be looking for a way to spend his money. I wish i could message him and ask if he wanted to buy mine to $2k :ok:

Bullionaire 03-05-2009 08:08 PM

Received today...very, very, underwhelmed..
 
Compared it to a vintage 1907 high relief at a dealers shop......try it yourself if you get the chance, .....the gold of the 1907 coin is vibrant yellow 22Kt, the alloys and the size difference make it much more alive appearing.


After all the anticipation, it really looks like a well struck 2009 Half Eagle......the diminutive size kills it for me. They should have made it the same size as the original, just a tad thinner.

The packaging gets an A+.....

Going to keep it as I am in at 1189.
Chunked it in the safety deposit box, gold at 1500 is on the horizon, so it won't matter...

EE_ 03-05-2009 08:18 PM

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I'm going to try to get some photos for you guys tomorrow, of the whole walk through process at PCGS.
Here is the two coins I am submitting. The one on the left is real proof like, more so then the other.
A real beauty, but with a little bit of die polishing marks visible.
The journey begins here with these!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0814.jpg

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1609741)
I'm going to try to get some photos for you guys tomorrow, of the whole walk through process at PCGS.
Here is the two coins I am submitting. The one on the left is real proof like, more so then the other.
A real beauty, but with a little bit of die polishing marks visible.
The journey begins here with these!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0814.jpg

I am green with envy that you have two in hand. I am sending mine in tomorrow to PCGS through a local authorzied dealer. It's going to make me feel awkward though because when I called him the other day to inquire about the costs, he said that sending it in wasn't the best idea, in his opinion. I just hope I don't regret sending it in. I am planning on purchasing another, though.

Looking forward to your write-up and pics tomorrow.

EE_ 03-05-2009 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609757)
I am green with envy that you have two in hand. I am sending mine in tomorrow to PCGS through a local authorzied dealer. It's going to make me feel awkward though because when I called him the other day to inquire about the costs, he said that sending it in wasn't the best idea, in his opinion. I just hope I don't regret sending it in. I am planning on purchasing another, though.

Looking forward to your write-up and pics tomorrow.

I'm betting the mint will not produce many of these, and will stop production early this year.
The 2006 proof buffalo had a mintage close to 300,000.
So far the mint has produced 29,000 of the UHR coins and with the problems they are having with quality in minting and distributing, my guess would be 60,000 for the year, and discontinued in 2010. That's my guess.

AV8R 03-05-2009 08:40 PM

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To the guys contemplating sending in for certification: If you dont have experience grading coins you might take it to a professional numismatist and have them look it over before sending it off. I received my Double eagle and it will most likely grade MS69 because of some die polishing in the obverse field. To get the 70 grade the coin has to be perfect in every way, you can take an MS69 and compare it to an MS70 and it's virtually impossible to tell them apart, at least it is for me. The main thing certification has done is force the coin traders to be honest, before the graders came on the scene, dealers would undergrade a coin when it was offered for sale, buy it as, say an XF, then sell it as an AU. But even when offering a certified coin for sale I've had dealers disagree with the number on the holder.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1609785)
I'm betting the mint will not produce many of these, and will stop production early this year.
The 2006 proof buffalo had a mintage close to 300,000.
So far the mint has produced 29,000 of the UHR coins and with the problems they are having with quality in minting and distributing, my guess would be 60,000 for the year, and discontinued in 2010. That's my guess.

So, in other words, getting it graded will probably be worth it? (has fingers crossed).

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AV8R (Post 1609795)
To the guys contemplating sending in for certification: If you dont have experience grading coins you might take it to a professional numismatist and have them look it over before sending it off. I received my Double eagle and it will most likely grade MS69 because of some die polishing in the obverse field. To get the 70 grade the coin has to be perfect in every way, you can take an MS69 and compare it to an MS70 and it's virtually impossible to tell them apart, at least it is for me. The main thing certification has done is force the coin traders to be honest, before the graders came on the scene, dealers would undergrade a coin when it was offered for sale, buy it as, say an XF, then sell it as an AU. But even when offering a certified coin for sale I've had dealers disagree with the number on the holder.

Thanks a lot for the advice! I will ask the guy at the shop if he can look it over before I send it out. I think that would be the prudent approach. Thanks again.

igorthesmall 03-05-2009 09:45 PM

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Good news!!

I just received an email from the mint that my coin shipped!!!

I will have it in my hand tomorrow!! Going to take it to a local dealer and see about getting it submitted to PCGS.

My order was 30838XXX. I ordered on the first day, about an hour and 15 mins after they came up for sale. (thats as close as I can remember)

Apocalypto 03-05-2009 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1609907)
Thanks a lot for the advice! I will ask the guy at the shop if he can look it over before I send it out. I think that would be the prudent approach. Thanks again.

Hey Mr Gekko, won't PCGS only grade the coin if it's still in its mint packaging?

ng1469 03-05-2009 10:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1610006)
Hey Mr Gekko, won't PCGS only grade the coin if it's still in its mint packaging?

no, they will grade it if its in a capsule. They will give it the first strike label if it is postmarked before 3/11 (doesnt have to be in original shipping box)

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 10:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1610006)
Hey Mr Gekko, won't PCGS only grade the coin if it's still in its mint packaging?

Negative. Their website (and the customer service rep I spoke with at PCGS) says that the coin can and should be shipped in the acrylic capsle if is postmarked before March 11, 2009 (the cutoff date). If it is shipped after that, it MUST be in the original packaging to prove that it was shipped in time for the First Strike designation.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1610016)
no, they will grade it if its in a capsule. They will give it the first strike label if it is postmarked before 3/11 (doesnt have to be in original shipping box)

Afiirmative.

Apocalypto 03-05-2009 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1610057)
Afiirmative.

Thanks for the clarification, sirs.

Gordon Gekko 03-05-2009 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1610097)
Thanks for the clarification, sirs.

You're welcome Paca. You aren't sending yours in correct?

Apocalypto 03-06-2009 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1610223)
You're welcome Paca. You aren't sending yours in correct?

I have no idea. This is a decision that will be made by a coin toss, my token method to resolve these little debates. I'll toss an SAE this weekend and let you know what the outcome is.

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 08:47 AM

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Alrighty guys and gals, I need to make a decision by at least 3:00pm or 4:00pm for whether or not I should submit my coin to PCGS. Can anyone here make a case for or against?

foolsgold 03-06-2009 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1610663)
Alrighty guys and gals, I need to make a decision by at least 3:00pm or 4:00pm for whether or not I should submit my coin to PCGS. Can anyone here make a case for or against?

Just do it....Get it out of your system....I might do it....It's a small cost.

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 09:15 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Thanks for the heads-up I'm still 17,000 off your number - 30855*** about 2 plus hours - but that includes all orders. Boy, that's a MONEY making business too bad it's run like a third-world operation. :504:
Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1609956)
Good news!!

I just received an email from the mint that my coin shipped!!!

I will have it in my hand tomorrow!! Going to take it to a local dealer and see about getting it submitted to PCGS.

My order was 30838XXX. I ordered on the first day, about an hour and 15 mins after they came up for sale. (thats as close as I can remember)


HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 09:20 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1610663)
Alrighty guys and gals, I need to make a decision by at least 3:00pm or 4:00pm for whether or not I should submit my coin to PCGS. Can anyone here make a case for or against?

Frankly it's worth the experience. PERIOD. If you don't like the result - CAREFULLY break it out and put it back in the original packaging. This is NOT rocket science - it's only the risk of a few bucks for the FLAG. My guess is like the one above that the MINT going to stop all gold production when it hits past 2 to 3 grand.:fan:

After all they stopped just about everything except those OBNOXIOUS second spouse JOBS for the affirmative action mentality administration.
I think HILLARY wants her coin! :504::504:

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 09:22 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1609785)
I'm betting the mint will not produce many of these, and will stop production early this year.
The 2006 proof buffalo had a mintage close to 300,000.
So far the mint has produced 29,000 of the UHR coins and with the problems they are having with quality in minting and distributing, my guess would be 60,000 for the year, and discontinued in 2010. That's my guess.

Rather GREAT guesstimate of the future.

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 09:28 AM

Re: Received today...very, very, underwhelmed..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullionaire (Post 1609727)
Compared it to a vintage 1907 high relief at a dealers shop......try it yourself if you get the chance, .....the gold of the 1907 coin is vibrant yellow 22Kt, the alloys and the size difference make it much more alive appearing.


After all the anticipation, it really looks like a well struck 2009 Half Eagle......the diminutive size kills it for me. They should have made it the same size as the original, just a tad thinner.

The packaging gets an A+.....

Going to keep it as I am in at 1189.
Chunked it in the safety deposit box, gold at 1500 is on the horizon, so it won't matter...

Kind of a double thick EAGLE - and I understand what you mentioned becuse I collect the saints - boy did they escalate in price! perhaps this is like the quaters to coin collecting juxtaposed to the SAINTS! MS65s around $2,900 in common dates RETAIL.

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 10:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1610712)
Just do it....Get it out of your system....I might do it....It's a small cost.

I just took it to the dealer and submitted it. I was wondering; what's stopping the dealer from swapping my coin with say his, or someone he knows who maybe has a UHR DE that has a blemish or something?

Also, he didn't charge me. He said he would charge me when it comes in.

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 10:43 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1610730)
Frankly it's worth the experience. PERIOD. If you don't like the result - CAREFULLY break it out and put it back in the original packaging. This is NOT rocket science - it's only the risk of a few bucks for the FLAG. My guess is like the one above that the MINT going to stop all gold production when it hits past 2 to 3 grand.:fan:

After all they stopped just about everything except those OBNOXIOUS second spouse JOBS for the affirmative action mentality administration.
I think HILLARY wants her coin! :504::504:

I just submitted it. They told me that they aren't shipping it out until Monday. They better get a move on it! I am rolling the dice here and hoping I get an MS70 (or at least my OWN coin back!)

hernancortes 03-06-2009 10:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Mine's staying in the box. Will submit for First Strike when I see numbers shake out.

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 10:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 1610875)
Mine's staying in the box. Will submit for First Strike when I see numbers shake out.

Looking back, that was probably the better idea. Oh well. We'll see what happens.

Az Ag 03-06-2009 01:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I decided not to submit mine. I was actually on the way over to the PCGS rep to submit, but it is about a 20 mile drive so I stopped in Phoenix at my favorite hamburger stand (the Burger Factory ant 7th Ave and Osborn - a double bacon burger with large fries) for lunch and as I was eating I realized that I was dreading getting the coin back in the PCGS slab and would not have the coin in the Mint box. When it hit me that I think the coin would really look better the way the Mint has it presented than in a slab, even if it made a MS 70 designation, I decided to just leave it in the Mint wood box as it was intended to be.

I finally decided that it is my coin and even if it made it to a 70 I would not be able to part with it. It would be like giving one of my kids up for adoption. I would always be wondering where it would be, and knowing it would not be as happy somewhere else as it would be with me. Gosh, who cares about an increased value in comparison to the happiness of a coin. We are together and that is all that matters.

I sure there is a medical term for this type of reasoning, and I might be judged crazy. But at least I am a crazy with a UHRDE. :elefant:


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Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 01:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1611113)
I decided not to submit mine. I was actually on the way over to the PCGS rep to submit, but it is about a 20 mile drive so I stopped in Phoenix at my favorite hamburger stand (the Burger Factory ant 7th Ave and Osborn - a double bacon burger with large fries) for lunch and as I was eating I realized that I was dreading getting the coin back in the PCGS slab and would not have the coin in the Mint box. When it hit me that I think the coin would really look better the way the Mint has it presented than in a slab, even if it made a MS 70 designation, I decided to just leave it in the Mint wood box as it was intended to be.

I finally decided that it is my coin and even if it made it to a 70 I would not be able to part with it. It would be like giving one of my kids up for adoption. I would always be wondering where it would be, and knowing it would not be as happy somewhere else as it would be with me. Gosh, who cares about an increased value in comparison to the happiness of a coin. We are together and that is all that matters.

I sure there is a medical term for this type of reasoning, and I might be judged crazy. But at least I am a crazy with a UHRDE. :elefant:


I know exactly how you feel. This is the exact reason why I am ordering another one to keep in the Mint box.

Apocalypto 03-06-2009 02:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1611165)
I know exactly how you feel. This is the exact reason why I am ordering another one to keep in the Mint box.

Mr. Gekko, I would say that's the best idea of all. Grade one then keep the other in the virgin mint box. That way you can't lose. I'm thinking I might follow the same strategy while the price is still "low" - correct me if I'm wrong, but won't $1,289 seem VERY low for this coin in 1 to 2 years?

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 02:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1611175)
Mr. Gekko, I would say that's the best idea of all. Grade one then keep the other in the virgin mint box. That way you can't lose. I'm thinking I might follow the same strategy while the price is still "low" - correct me if I'm wrong, but won't $1,289 seem VERY low for this coin in 1 to 2 years?

We share the same thoughts. I am just going to have my gf order it and I will give her the dough. And yes, I do agree that the price is "low" right now compared to what it's going to be worth. I am ordering the second one tonight.

CoinNut 03-06-2009 02:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Most likely the dealer that submits coins for people,are honest. Costs will be around $100 plus any dealer fees.....Silver PCGS membership is $49 for year and may have been worth it.(Cost/piece of mind)..........One went in Wed. and another one in mail, to go Mon.-Tues....As far as deadlines/opened boxes issue..........I e-mailed PCGS and reponse,as expected. Postmarked to them BEFORE the 11th...for opened boxes.

Gordon Gekko 03-06-2009 02:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1611202)
Most likely the dealer that submits coins for people,are honest. Costs will be around $100 plus any dealer fees.....Silver PCGS membership is $49 for year and may have been worth it.(Cost/piece of mind)..........One went in Wed. and another one in mail, to go Mon.-Tues....As far as deadlines/opened boxes issue..........I e-mailed PCGS and reponse,as expected. Postmarked to them BEFORE the 11th...for opened boxes.

Thanks for the info. I was contemplating getting a membership, but, EE said that I would have had to have ordered the forms and packaging from them, ultimately causing me to miss out of the First Strike designation.

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 02:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1610879)
Looking back, that was probably the better idea. Oh well. We'll see what happens.

It really depends if you have done it prior - submitted coin(s). If you get LUCKY and it's a MS70 - then it's all done for you. Frankly - my guess is that you'd sell it after your favorite dog and your first born. But - that's just a guess from a crazy :36_1_25:coin collector. If you have TWO then do just ONE - use the GF - praying she's LOYAL.

smyles 03-06-2009 02:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I called the mint again today. After several attempts to get into any kind of que I finally was able to get through to someone. I was told that now my coin will ship some time in April. I asked for a sup. After a long wait I was told there isn't one available. The lady kept restating the lie that they are shipping on a first come-first serve basis. I told her that wasn't acceptable and would wait longer if need be to talk with a supervisor. I knew it wouldn't do any good, but I did talk to a supervisor and was told nobody can do anyhting to change anyhting. My only option is to cancel.

Looks like ordering withing a few hours of going on sale means absolutly nothing. I'll just chalk it up to yet another reason to despise our parasitic government. I guess I'll just have to accept that this is another government operation that has no integrity, no accountablility and no responsibility to their citizens or customers.

I think i'll just go on the assumption that I'll never get it and if I do it will be a nice surprise.

foolsgold 03-06-2009 02:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1611175)
Mr. Gekko, I would say that's the best idea of all. Grade one then keep the other in the virgin mint box. That way you can't lose. I'm thinking I might follow the same strategy while the price is still "low" - correct me if I'm wrong, but won't $1,289 seem VERY low for this coin in 1 to 2 years?

When the UPS man arrived, I was upset to see his hands on my "virgin mint box". I still have nightmares thinking about it.:111:

CoinNut 03-06-2009 02:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
"Missing FS"....No,not really. If others' may be thinking same...Go to site sign up. Can download a submission form and send dues and submission fees in the package with coin.....As far as flips(21/2"X21/2") and little white stickers...for 1 coin they will take care of it. Any questions,give them a call. They are easy to talk to.

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 03:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1611237)
I called the mint again today. After several attempts to get into any kind of que I finally was able to get through to someone. I was told that now my coin will ship some time in April. I asked for a sup. After a long wait I was told there isn't one available. The lady kept restating the lie that they are shipping on a first come-first serve basis. I told her that wasn't acceptable and would wait longer if need be to talk with a supervisor. I knew it wouldn't do any good, but I did talk to a supervisor and was told nobody can do anyhting to change anyhting. My only option is to cancel.

Looks like ordering withing a few hours of going on sale means absolutly nothing. I'll just chalk it up to yet another reason to despise our parasitic government. I guess I'll just have to accept that this is another government operation that has no integrity, no accountablility and no responsibility to their citizens or customers.

I think i'll just go on the assumption that I'll never get it and if I do it will be a nice surprise.

Now, now, now, don't you believe that we "changed" for the better? :aetsch::haha: Now for the real facts - isn't it funny how Bush II turns out to have a 130 I.Q. and the "changer" Obama has only a 125 I.Q.! From one DUMB-CLUCK to a worse ONE! :yes::23_28_100s:usflag:36_1_11::stupid:

smyles 03-06-2009 03:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well after reading the sup the riot act and letting her know that my experience will be posted, I did apologize to her and let her know that I realize she couldn't help me if she wanted to. And her day is probably filled with one angry call after another. But I explained that she was the only one I could voice my frustration to.

But the fact remains, they don't have to provide good customer service or even care about it. They aren't going out of business like most businesses would. Well, at least they would have before the bailout boondoggle.

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 04:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1611328)
Well after reading the sup the riot act and letting her know that my experience will be posted, I did apologize to her and let her know that I realize she couldn't help me if she wanted to. And her day is probably filled with one angry call after another. But I explained that she was the only one I could voice my frustration to.

But the fact remains, they don't have to provide good customer service or even care about it. They aren't going out of business like most businesses would. Well, at least they would have before the bailout boondoggle.

I do wonder why they switched JOBBER services for a LOT less service? And why they cancelled so many GOLD SILVER & PLATINUM items? And why they ration out things? And why they killed the website services? And why they don't answer the phone for over half-an-hour? And why they don't ship Fed Ex any MORE? And why they are so screwed-up?

Just wondering OUTLOUD - Mr. Director "Mickey Mouse" MOY.
:504::504::504::emotions16::23_1_22:

RossL 03-06-2009 09:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
1 Attachment(s)
scanned from this week's Coin World mag

foolsgold 03-06-2009 09:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Wow. Thanks Ross...Now that begs the question how many GAEs are struck with a single die?

HistoryStudent 03-06-2009 10:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 1611836)
scanned from this week's Coin World mag

Thanks WHAT an INTERESTING post. :yes: Boy, that will make some of the posts above prophetic. One wonders how many they will actually make. :yes: they mentioned this year only - if I'm not mistaken.

RossL 03-06-2009 10:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
yeah,

100 coins per hour on a press. The dies last 5 hours...

Apocalypto 03-06-2009 11:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Very cool post, Ross. Thanks. And it was written 10 days from now! Thanks for using your time machine to share! Just kidding. Interesting info. And cool cat avatar. Looks like he's laughing his head of.

Of course, we are all wondering: where in the die's life cycle was my particular coin struck? Wouldn't that be cool to know?

EE_ 03-06-2009 11:28 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My day at PCGS
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0814.jpg

My day began with a beautiful almost spring day ride up the California coast.
Despite the negatives of this state, it's hard to imagine living anywhere else when you have the shimmering Pacific Ocean on your left and the green hills and mountains on your right. The traffic was light.

I arrived at PCGS early and figured since I was there, I'd wait it out while the PCGS girls set up the makeshift "Walk-in Friday" tables.
I asked if it would be alright to take a photo of them for our web site and was declined by Diana because she didn't want her picture circulating the net. She was pretty enough, so I can't imagine her missing an opportunity to get some attention like most pretty girls jump at? Maybe I wasn't speaking the right language, and a double-sawbuck could have broke the communication barrier?
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0816.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0818.jpg
I stopped into the Marine recruitment office that is opposite the lobby where PCGS sets up and spoke with Marine Sergeant Underwood, a fine professional gentlemen that did two tours in Iraq. A man of respect!
In our conversation regarding Iraq, he candidly admitted "we need to get out."
I explained that I am a member of a web site club, that I would probably mention him, and that we have a few young members that might be interested in signing up to their fine organization, once they realized their job prospects. I said I would try to point some new recruits his way.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0817.jpg
What do you young guys think? Are you ready to become a real man, or are you cool with living in your mom's basement? Man up!

10:00 Tables open!
I sit down with Diana and fill out the paper work, submit the coins, and I'm out of there. Be back at 3:00 she said!
On the way out I spoke with one of the PCGS guys that helps out with admissions, with a smile I asked, "so what do you think about the First Strike label?", his reply..."I think it's fantastic!, what do you think?" I let out a good laugh while he broke out with a funny smile. Nothing more need be said.

I took care of a few things in town and came back at 2:00, in case they got done early.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0819.jpg
No such luck...no worries though, I hung around and shot the breeze with the group that were submitting coins.
Being the helpful guy I am, I pulled out my loupe and began grading coins for several guys waiting to submit. I gotta say, I enjoy looking at this stuff...I gave 9 other UHR coins the once over looking for flaws and variations, and they do vary. The guys were appreciative of my help.
It was 2:55 when the guy walked out with my coins...they were wrapped in bubble wrap and in a blue box.
I calmly opened the package while telling the guy that I'm only expecting 69's and that it is a surprise when you get a 70. Well...I was surprised! It was bingo, payday, party time! The one on top said First Strike MS 70! Immediately a big ass smile came over me and those standing around me knew I was happy.
The guy that handed me the box said "congratulation...that was worth waiting for," I agreed. A couple others congratulated me too. I waved to everyone and off I went, back down that shimmering coast, a little happier then before.
I have to say, it was a good day!
PS, the other coin was a MS 69
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0822.jpg
I forgot to mention that I spoke with Miles Standish the lead grader for PCGS. He expressed great enthusiasm for this coin, and said they were thrilled to have it to grade!

RossL 03-06-2009 11:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1611955)
Of course, we are all wondering: where in the die's life cycle was my particular coin struck?

It certainly makes the "First Strike" designation meaningless.

foolsgold 03-06-2009 11:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Congratulations EE. Keep us posted.

smyles 03-06-2009 11:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Very cool. I'm happy for you EE! And appreciate you taking the time to tell about the PCGS experience.

Gordon Gekko 03-07-2009 01:51 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Congrats EE! I came home and never would have imagined such a post!! I hope I have the same luck. Are you planning on selling one of them or holding onto them?

ng1469 03-07-2009 02:35 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Congrats EE! If it was me there the whole building would have been able to hear me when i get that coin back :shine::shine::shine:

You mentioned before you brought them in that one was a little more prooflike, was that the one that got the ms70? Well congrats man, enjoy it. Now cross your fingers for mine!! I wanna be doin this --->:565: when i get my coin

Apocalypto 03-07-2009 03:23 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Congratulations EE, and very entertaining post. Keep that MS70 close to your chest. You got a winner there.

HistoryStudent 03-07-2009 09:28 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Thanks EE - very nice POST - well thought out.

CONGRATULATIONS! :23_30_104: Best wishes, HS

Apocalypto 03-07-2009 06:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 1611989)
It certainly makes the "First Strike" designation meaningless.


Okay, now you got me thinking. Can someone give me a rational explanation of this? If they keep changing the die, that's 100 coins per hour on a press, and the dies last 5 hours. That means there really is a new "first strike" created every 5 hours. So why does PCGS insist that the coins only be admissible for the designation based on shipping date? What am I missing here in the logic?

Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-07-2009 07:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
"First Strike" is just a good marketing slogan -- there doesn't have to be logic. But I can understand people desiring coins that were released earlier in the year -- which is what is implied by the "First Strike" label.

EE -- what are your plans for your graded coins? Are you going to keep them, sell them? Thanks for the cool post.

j-son 03-07-2009 07:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://www.kpmcoins.com/Ultra-High-R...c46/index.html

EE_ 03-07-2009 08:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1613212)
"First Strike" is just a good marketing slogan -- there doesn't have to be logic. But I can understand people desiring coins that were released earlier in the year -- which is what is implied by the "First Strike" label.

EE -- what are your plans for your graded coins? Are you going to keep them, sell them? Thanks for the cool post.

The 69 is good as gone to a friend.
As far as the MS70...I thought about maybe taking the initial profit and picking up another sealed in box. The first one has sold on Ebay for $3,500.(too cheap in my opinion, but people are hurting and need to hustle up $'s)
My thinking now is, with the controversy surrounding this coin, with the biggest blunder at the mint regarding distribution, getting blanks and the long waiting...that, and the fact, the US Mint virtually has no coins worth buying in the pipe line.
This may be the last of a breed? It could be the pinnacle in mintage of modern coin history, and production may stop short of the "mint to demand", they originally set out to produce.
At this point, I'll hold and wait it out, until these 70's get done flipping, and find their place to the strong hands.
If I sell it, I doubt I'll own another, nor would I want to pay to own one again.
I have about $1,300 into this coin and personally, I love it!
To me it looks even nicer in the slab and is nicer to handle too.
If my bet is wrong, and the mint produces 500,000 of these, then oh well...at least I have a thing of beauty I love owning, and it is a perfect specimen.
I'm going long!

RossL 03-07-2009 11:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

It certainly makes the "First Strike" designation meaningless.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1613100)
What am I missing here in the logic?

Nothing.

"First Strike" is meaningless. It is a lie.

PCGS is lying to you.


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EE_ 03-07-2009 11:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 1613521)
Nothing.

"First Strike" is meaningless. It is a lie.

PCGS is lying to you.

It simply means you recieved your coins in the first 30 days of issue.
With the US Mint fubar'd, a lot of people had to jump through hoops to get the UHRDE done in this time period, to posess first 30 day issued coins.
In other words, it's meaningless! :wink:
But PCGS does not lie.
Read!
http://www.pcgs.com/firststrike/

HistoryStudent 03-07-2009 11:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1613357)
The 69 is good as gone to a friend.
As far as the MS70...I thought about maybe taking the initial profit and picking up another sealed in box. The first one has sold on Ebay for $3,500.(too cheap in my opinion, but people are hurting and need to hustle up $'s)
My thinking now is, with the controversy surrounding this coin, with the biggest blunder at the mint regarding distribution, getting blanks and the long waiting...that, and the fact, the US Mint virtually has no coins worth buying in the pipe line.
This may be the last of a breed? It could be the pinnacle in mintage of modern coin history, and production may stop short of the "mint to demand", they originally set out to produce.
At this point, I'll hold and wait it out, until these 70's get done flipping, and find their place to the strong hands.
If I sell it, I doubt I'll own another, nor would I want to pay to own one again.
I have about $1,300 into this coin and personally, I love it!
To me it looks even nicer in the slab and is nicer to handle too.
If my bet is wrong, and the mint produces 500,000 of these, then oh well...at least I have a thing of beauty I love owning, and it is a perfect specimen.
I'm going long!

EE you seem to be a straight shooter - like the ICON fellow on the left so...

The way things are going (economy -mint -gold production problems- and world problems) people MIGHT be lucky to get the coins if they order tomorrow. JUST Try to order some other gold coin from the mint for example.

Don't know but I'd keep both right now until they become PLENTIFUL.

:yes:

igorthesmall 03-07-2009 11:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I took my coin to the local dealer, and he looked my coin over and said there were a couple of flaws on it, that it wouldnt grade ms70.

Not sure if I am going to keep it or just try to sell it right now on ebay. Its kind of a disappointing coin, I dont like that its so think, its practically the same size as my 1/2 ouncers.

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1613575)
I took my coin to the local dealer, and he looked my coin over and said there were a couple of flaws on it, that it wouldnt grade ms70.

Not sure if I am going to keep it or just try to sell it right now on ebay. Its kind of a disappointing coin, I dont like that its so think, its practically the same size as my 1/2 ouncers.

At least you got one. They only make a few per die/dye. Keep it for a month then rethink it all - you still have the nice packaging.

Be patient.

Jesse Livermore:

do the research
BE RIGHT
take your position
SIT DAMN TIGHT :ok:

Most people lose the most money because they are too impatient. :signs14:

Best wishes,

HS

PS I've hundreds of coins that I'd wish they were MS69 instead of a lot LESS.

Apocalypto 03-08-2009 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1613540)
It simply means you recieved your coins in the first 30 days of issue.
With the US Mint fubar'd, a lot of people had to jump through hoops to get the UHRDE done in this time period, to posess first 30 day issued coins.
In other words, it's meaningless! :wink:
But PCGS does not lie.
Read!
http://www.pcgs.com/firststrike/

EE, thanks for that link. I should have done more research prior to posting my last message. That's informative and it comes from the source.

Even after reading the info at the PCGS site, I don't agree that "First Strike" is completely meaningless... that is, it is may be meaningless to people like you and me and others here on GIM, but uninformed consumers might feel that it's actually significant, and over time their desire to own the coin in conjunction with their perspective on the PCGS 30-day policy means the price of the coin rises.

Maybe I'm wrong, but only time will tell.

I do agree with you that this coin is a bit of a kingpin in the historical sense. We are at a sort of crossroads with gold pushing $1,000, and most likely staying there for a long, long time.

I've heard a few slightly negative comments on this coin, usually due to the smaller size. It seems to be a personal thing. But the truth is, no matter what you think of this coin, the value is the value, and that can only rise.

With yours at MS70, you're in the driver's seat. Once again, congrats!!

EE_ 03-08-2009 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1613606)
EE, thanks for that link. I should have done more research prior to posting my last message. That's informative and it comes from the source.

Even after reading the info at the PCGS site, I don't agree that "First Strike" is completely meaningless... that is, it is may be meaningless to people like you and me and others here on GIM, but uninformed consumers might feel that it's actually significant, and over time their desire to own the coin in conjunction with their perspective on the PCGS 30-day policy means the price of the coin rises.

Maybe I'm wrong, but only time will tell.

I do agree with you that this coin is a bit of a kingpin in the historical sense. We are at a sort of crossroads with gold pushing $1,000, and most likely staying there for a long, long time.

I've heard a few slightly negative comments on this coin, usually due to the smaller size. It seems to be a personal thing. But the truth is, no matter what you think of this coin, the value is the value, and that can only rise.

With yours at MS70, you're in the driver's seat. Once again, congrats!!

Thanks friend!
I'm not sure people that think the coin is too small understand numismatics.
I guess they throw out the $1,200 bucks and they expect to see something big, not taking into the account the process to produce something like this.
I guy I know at a coin show let me hold a couple gold coins valued at $150,000 (no bigger than a nickel) and $80,000...I let my wife hold them carefully and then I told her what they were worth. She thought I was joking.
She was kind of taken back when she realized I wasn't kidding.
The purest sees them much differently.

voidus 03-08-2009 08:14 AM

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Check this sale price out, from Sat. on the frist stiike ms-70.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll.../forums/images

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by voidus (Post 1613847)
Check this sale price out, from Sat. on the frist stiike ms-70.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll.../forums/images

3300 winning bid - funny if they stop making them - and next year it's $33,000.00

Who knows?:yes:

His OLD brother MS68- 1907 High Relief goes for $300,000.00 grand 300 - retail right now.

EE_ 03-08-2009 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1613994)
3300 winning bid - funny if they stop making them - and next year it's $33,000.00

Who knows?:yes:

His OLD brother MS68- 1907 High Relief goes for $300,000.00 grand 300 - retail right now.

There is going to be a lot of 70's graded, but with respect to the global market, it will not be enough for a coin of this caliber, imo.
There needs to be a good amount of desirable coins to make a market.
When there are too few something, market interest contracts, because not many people will try to collect coins that are unobtainable.
Hopefully there will be just the right amount to have a strong healthy market.

So far to date, it is being reported that (36) MS 70 FS's have been documented.
I think many are jumping the gun to turn a small profit, before they know how this one in particular plays out.
The flipping process will go on until next year, until all these perfect coins are bought up by the strong hands. If the UHR program ends abruptly, we will see the true market value much sooner.

RE: US Mint
"The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will be produced and orders fulfilled, subject to gold blank availability."

Other winners for good long term appreciation are the 2008-w gold eagles.
Four years of production and no longer made.

The New Gold Eagle Key Dates
Posted by: Michael | Posted in: Gold Eagles

Based on last reported sales data, it seems that four 2008 Gold Eagles may have the lowest mintages ever for their respective denominations. This includes one coin which might have the lowest mintage for any American Gold Eagle ever.

Three of the new lows were reached for the so-called "collectible" uncirculated versions of the Gold Eagle. The US Mint first offered these coins in 2006. The coins are struck on specially burnished blanks and carry the "W" mint mark for the West Point Mint. Late in 2008, the US Mint announced that most of these collectible uncirculated versions would be discontinued for 2009.

The figures below are the last reported sales figures for the 2008 Gold Eagles from Numismaster. The sales figures for each coin reflect the totals from both individual sales plus four coin set sales. For the 2008-W $25 Unc Gold Eagle, the figures also include Double Prosperity Set sales. Final mintage figures for the 2008 Gold Eagles have not yet been released by the US Mint. Gold Eagle Sales Figures

1 oz. 1/2 oz. 1/4 oz. 1/10 oz.
Proof 29,399 27,864 28,301 29,155
Uncirculated (W) 12,387 16,126 9,200 13,376

2008-W Uncirculated $50 Gold Eagle - With last reported sales of 12,387, this coin would have the lowest mintage for any one ounce uncirculated Gold Eagle. The next lowest figure is more than double. This coin also has the lowest mintage for any one ounce Gold Eagle in any version. The only one ounce Gold Eagle with a lower mintage was the 2006-W Reverse Proof Gold Eagle at 10,000.

2008 Proof $5 Gold Eagle - With last reported sales of 29,155, this coin would have the lowest mintage for any one-tenth ounce Proof Gold Eagle. The next lowest figure of 34, 977 was reached in 1997.

2008-W Uncirculated $5 Gold Eagle - With last reported sales of 13,376, this coin would have hte lowest mintage for any one-tenth ounce Uncirculated Gold Eagle. The next lowest mintage is the 2007-W with 24,300. This coin would also have the lowest mintage for any one-tenth ounce Gold Eagle in any version.

2008-W Uncirculated $10 Gold Eagle - With last reported sales of 9,200, this coin would have the lowest mintage for any one-quarter ounce Uncirculated Gold Eagle. The next lowest mintage is the 2007-W with 14,615. Most notably, this coin would have the lowest mintage for Gold Eagle ever. This is across all denominations ($50, $25, $10, $5) and all versions (uncirculated, proof, bullion).

http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...key-dates.html

igorthesmall 03-08-2009 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1613624)
Thanks friend!
I'm not sure people that think the coin is too small understand numismatics.
I guess they throw out the $1,200 bucks and they expect to see something big, not taking into the account the process to produce something like this.
I guy I know at a coin show let me hold a couple gold coins valued at $150,000 (no bigger than a nickel) and $80,000...I let my wife hold them carefully and then I told her what they were worth. She thought I was joking.
She was kind of taken back when she realized I wasn't kidding.
The purest sees them much differently.

Im definitely not a numismatist. I just didnt think it was all that great of a coin. I wish they had made it larger and thinner like my favorite gold coin, the 4 ducat.

Also I didnt really care for the designs all that much, but like I said, Im not really into the numismatic stuff. I am a bullion guy.

foolsgold 03-08-2009 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1614088)
Im definitely not a numismatist. I am a bullion guy.

So you're pretty much full of Bullion?

:signs14: I could not help myself.

:111:
:111:

igorthesmall 03-08-2009 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1614098)
So you're pretty much full of Bullion?

:signs14: I could not help myself.

:111:
:111:

Hehe, I guess when I throw a softball like that I should expect it to get knocked out of the park!

foolsgold 03-08-2009 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1614132)
Hehe, I guess when I throw a softball like that I should expect it to get knocked out of the park!

You sir are a good sport.:5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1614088)
Im definitely not a numismatist. I just didnt think it was all that great of a coin. I wish they had made it larger and thinner like my favorite gold coin, the 4 ducat.

Also I didnt really care for the designs all that much, but like I said, Im not really into the numismatic stuff. I am a bullion guy.

The "world" system in numismatics considers the OLD High Relief Saint (charge HUGE BUCKS for it too $300 K for a MS67) in the same "Ball Park (to play on your words)" as the OLD Alexander The Great classical Greek coins in beauty and collectabillity. I'm not into the "world per se" but alway try to recognize something in the way of a trend.

EE is rather correct above - who knows how this thing is "going to play out (using the game motiff for highlighting)" in the end.

If I was a betting man - I'd grab as many 2009s as possible. But, like you I'm really a BULLION man - full of ole' bullion and stuff!

lumpOgold 03-08-2009 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1614209)
The "world" system in numismatics considers the OLD High Relief Saint (charge HUGE BUCKS for it too $300 K for a MS67) in the same "Ball Park (to play on your words)" as the OLD Alexander The Great classical Greek coins in beauty and collectabillity. I'm not into the "world per se" but alway try to recognize something in the way of a trend.

EE is rather correct above - who knows how this thing is "going to play out (using the game motiff for highlighting)" in the end.

If I was a betting man - I'd grab as many 2009s as possible. But, like you I'm really a BULLION man - full of ole' bullion and stuff!

How many of you jumped on the First Spouse gold coins? I bet a lot of you did.

I put the UHR coin in the same category as the First Spouse coins, the mint creates a lot of hype and then the public finds they don't have the stomach for the prices. Personally I will wait to buy one of these UHR coins, once they are sold as bullion like the first Spouse coins are now.

The mint can't move them at their asstronomical premiums and then they have to create 4 new dies every year. You know the UHR 25% premium is paying for a lot of other worthless collectibles too.

I hope the UHR coins aren't duds for the people that did buy them, but for "long term wealth preservation" they aren't a really logical investment. If you plan to flip it, I hope you make a little on it.

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1614225)
How many of you jumped on the First Spouse gold coins? I bet a lot of you did.

I put the UHR coin in the same category as the First Spouse coins, the mint creates a lot of hype and then the public finds they don't have the stomach for the prices. Personally I will wait to buy one of these UHR coins, once they are sold as bullion like the first Spouse coins are now.

The mint can't move them at their asstronomical premiums and then they have to create 4 new dies every year. You know the UHR 25% premium is paying for a lot of other worthless collectibles too.

I hope the UHR coins aren't duds for the people that did buy them, but for "long term wealth preservation" they aren't a really logical investment. If you plan to flip it, I hope you make a little on it.

First spouses were basically reality totally mostly :36_1_63:a loss. A super flop. About the only gold coin you can buy from the mint today.
:signs14:

Somehow the 2009 UHR eagle is a tad better - IMHO - but I may be wrong - I ani't a 100% a prophet - I try to go on fundamentals and trends. :5_1_120:


I did buy those 2007 platinum proof sets - when they dropped the price - they should pay off rather good.

EE_ 03-08-2009 05:55 PM

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Hardly a 1st Spouse coin.
UHR Ceremony

lumpOgold 03-08-2009 06:00 PM

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For those of you that have "invested" in these, I hope they aren't just a fleeting whim of the collector universe.

Remember how excited everyone was 2 years ago with the First Spouse coins, you had to be really quick on the trigger to get in on the first three (Washington, Adams, and Jefferson).

EE_ 03-08-2009 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1614296)
For those of you that have "invested" in these, I hope they aren't just a fleeting whim of the collector universe.

Remember how excited everyone was 2 years ago with the First Spouse coins, you had to be really quick on the trigger to get in on the first three (Washington, Adams, and Jefferson).

For only $175 more than a bullion gold eagle, there's not much risk here.
Many dealers hardly have any bullion eagles right now.
CNI has none. http://golddealer.com/bullionpage.html

As in any collectable, buy what you like, because you might be stuck with it for a long time.

Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-08-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1613357)
This may be the last of a breed? It could be the pinnacle in mintage of modern coin history, and production may stop short of the "mint to demand", they originally set out to produce.

That's completely true. There are only a few coins in the history of the world that compare to the beauty of the UHR. This baby will last.

Numismatics has a lot in common with art collecting/appreciation, and the art which is in the most demand and stands the test of time is that which is beautiful and/or historic. The UHR has beauty -- it is without equal in that regard. It is also historic, because it is being released for one year, in a year which will probably be considered a turning point in the history of the United States.

lumpOgold 03-08-2009 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1614340)
For only $175 more than a bullion gold eagle, there's not much risk here.
Many dealers hardly have any bullion eagles right now.
CNI has none. http://golddealer.com/bullionpage.html

As in any collectable, buy what you like, because you might be stuck with it for a long time.

That's true, the regular American Eagle
Spot price ($934) + 5% = $980 ( I can buy for spot + $50 locally)

whereas for the UHR coins
Spot Price ($934) + 38% = $1289

Seems quite steep to me for raw coins that are new to the market.

I am just jaded because I have jumped on more than one band-wagon and didn't jump on this one because I have a big chip on my shoulder for the US Mint beacuse they canceled my order for $968 Buffalos in January of this year!

Gcubed 03-08-2009 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1614349)
That's completely true. There are only a few coins in the history of the world that compare to the beauty of the UHR. This baby will last.

Numismatics has a lot in common with art collecting/appreciation, and the art which is in the most demand and stands the test of time is that which is beautiful and/or historic. The UHR has beauty -- it is without equal in that regard. It is also historic, because it is being released for one year, in a year which will probably be considered a turning point in the history of the United States.

Agreed however, it never did nor was intended to enter "circulation". Real Double Eagles were carried in the pockets of and spent by the public. Don't get me wrong. I just don't consider this more than a commemorative Government issued token.

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1614349)
That's completely true. There are only a few coins in the history of the world that compare to the beauty of the UHR. This baby will last.

Numismatics has a lot in common with art collecting/appreciation, and the art which is in the most demand and stands the test of time is that which is beautiful and/or historic. The UHR has beauty -- it is without equal in that regard. It is also historic, because it is being released for one year, in a year which will probably be considered a turning point in the history of the United States.

Well said :coolbeer:. We have a 4 to 6 TRILLION dollar deficit COMING from MR CHANGE. :36_1_25:

(The change was from greatness to poverty!) :signs14:(For the US and us.):cry1:

Az Ag 03-08-2009 08:27 PM

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I don't expect the UHRDE to ever be worth more than $200-$300 over spot which is what it costs to buy directly from the mint. A case in point is the 2006 Gold Buffalo Proof of which the Mint sold (as I recall) about 300,000 coins at $800 per when Spot was about $600, or about $200 over spot. Those same coins are now selling for around $1,200 or about $250 over current spot.

I don't believe the Mint will sell 300,000 URHDE's, but they are over 51,000 already which is quite a few when compared to another beautiful coin the Mint produced, the 2006 Reverse Proof Gold Eagle. They only made 10,000 of those. The reverse proof could only be acquired by purchasing a 3-coin set which sold for $2,500 as I recall. The two non-reverse proof coins could be purchased from the Mint for a total of about $1,500 in 2006, which made the cost of the reverse proof about $1,000 or about a $400 premium over spot. Now, that set will run around $4,500. I would guess the Reverse Proof all by itself (assuming you could find it by itself as an ungraded coin)would be somewhere around $2,300 or about $1,400 over current spot.

IMO, the difference in value between the 2006 Reverse Proof and the 2006 Buffalo Proof is solely related to the scarcity of the Reverse Proof. If my thinking is correct, then because the UHRDE will be minted in relatively high amounts, the value will never escalate like that of the Reverse Proof. That doesn't mean, however, that the coin is not worth buying. On the contrary, it is a very beautiful coin and the Mint has done an exceptional job in the presentation. I have both the 2006 Buff Proof, and the 2009 UHRDE. I would part with the Buff Proof before I would sell the UHRDE.

One coin that I do think will do very well is the one oz 2008 W Gold Buffalo. The mintage on this coin is even less than that of the 2006 reverse proof. Like the Reverse proof, the 2008 W Gold Buff is a one year coin. I think they are currently selling for about $1,600. They should still appreciate nicely.

Apocalypto 03-08-2009 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1614422)
I just don't consider this more than a commemorative Government issued token.

Yep, except it's a commemorative Government issued token that's selling for 50% over the purchase price just 1.5 months after it's January 22nd opening price of $1189. I'll take that token.

Gcubed 03-08-2009 10:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1614560)
Yep, except it's a commemorative Government issued token that's selling for 50% over the purchase price just 1.5 months after it's January 22nd opening price of $1189. I'll take that token.

Tell me that when we re-live the early 80's. No disrespect for collectors however, commemoratives have been subject to massive devaluations in somewhat recent history. True numismatic pieces have been victims of the same. One should choose investments wisely. Passions, well that's another thing. :wink:

HistoryStudent 03-08-2009 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1614535)
I don't expect the UHRDE to ever be worth more than $200-$300 over spot which is what it costs to buy directly from the mint. A case in point is the 2006 Gold Buffalo Proof of which the Mint sold (as I recall) about 300,000 coins at $800 per when Spot was about $600, or about $200 over spot. Those same coins are now selling for around $1,200 or about $250 over current spot.

I don't believe the Mint will sell 300,000 URHDE's, but they are over 51,000 already which is quite a few when compared to another beautiful coin the Mint produced, the 2006 Reverse Proof Gold Eagle. They only made 10,000 of those. The reverse proof could only be acquired by purchasing a 3-coin set which sold for $2,500 as I recall. The two non-reverse proof coins could be purchased from the Mint for a total of about $1,500 in 2006, which made the cost of the reverse proof about $1,000 or about a $400 premium over spot. Now, that set will run around $4,500. I would guess the Reverse Proof all by itself (assuming you could find it by itself as an ungraded coin)would be somewhere around $2,300 or about $1,400 over current spot.

IMO, the difference in value between the 2006 Reverse Proof and the 2006 Buffalo Proof is solely related to the scarcity of the Reverse Proof. If my thinking is correct, then because the UHRDE will be minted in relatively high amounts, the value will never escalate like that of the Reverse Proof. That doesn't mean, however, that the coin is not worth buying. On the contrary, it is a very beautiful coin and the Mint has done an exceptional job in the presentation. I have both the 2006 Buff Proof, and the 2009 UHRDE. I would part with the Buff Proof before I would sell the UHRDE.

One coin that I do think will do very well is the one oz 2008 W Gold Buffalo. The mintage on this coin is even less than that of the 2006 reverse proof. Like the Reverse proof, the 2008 W Gold Buff is a one year coin. I think they are currently selling for about $1,600. They should still appreciate nicely.


Good post - very well thought out - appreciate the insight and numbers. HS :yes:

The wild card is that the thing (paper) we value these things (precious metals) IN has an FUTURE of a VERY GREAT NUMBER.

All boats rise with the TIDE of dollars.

Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-09-2009 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1614422)
Agreed however, it never did nor was intended to enter "circulation". Real Double Eagles were carried in the pockets of and spent by the public. Don't get me wrong. I just don't consider this more than a commemorative Government issued token.

That's true. But we do have to keep in mind that the Real Double Eagles have 80-100 years of time on their side. We will probably have to wait a generation or more before the 2009 UHR becomes as collectible as the original $20 saints because all the collectors who want one now can easily get one direct from the mint. I'm hoping that when gold is at $10,000+, the UHR goes for 2x spot.

Still -- it's the best damn commemorative token the government has ever issued.

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 08:46 AM

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Ordered my second this past weekened. Order number is 313079XX. Who knows if/when I'll ever get it.

foolsgold 03-09-2009 08:53 AM

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Has the mint ever limit "one to a customer" on their other coins?


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EE_ 03-09-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1615098)
Has the mint ever limit "one to a customer" on their other coins?

Yes, they have...the last one I believe was the first spouse.
The gold eagle sets were another.

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1615108)
Yes, they have...the last one I believe was the first spouse.
The gold eagle sets were another.

EE,

Are you planning on flipping your MS70 or MS69 on Ebay?

EE_ 03-09-2009 09:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1615086)
Ordered my second this past weekened. Order number is 313079XX. Who knows if/when I'll ever get it.

GG did you send yours in to be graded?
I gotta say, the more I look at this coin the more I love it.
It is truely the pinacle of US coinage. Where do they go from here?

EE_ 03-09-2009 09:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1615110)
EE,

Are you planning on flipping your MS70 or MS69 on Ebay?

The 69 goes to a friend today...the 70 is not for sale!
These people that are selling them for low $3,000' s are selling too cheap imo.
They are going to be sorry.

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1615118)
The 69 goes to a friend today...the 70 is not for sale!
These people that are selling them for low $3,000' s are selling too cheap imo.
They are going to be sorry.

I totally agree with you. There can't be too many MS70 FS's out there. If mine comes back MS70, I think I will keep it. BUT, if it comes back MS69, what do you think I should do? Flip it on Ebay? I have another ocin coming later in the year which I plan on keeping in the original mint box and not get graded. I am just trying to figure out what to do when my graded coin comes back. Would an MS69 FS be worth holding onto? Or, do you think it would be wise to flip it and pocket the profits? Thanks EE, I really appreciate all your wisdom.:23_1_22:

EE_ 03-09-2009 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1615130)
I totally agree with you. There can't be too many MS70 FS's out there. If mine comes back MS70, I think I will keep it. BUT, if it comes back MS69, what do you think I should do? Flip it on Ebay? I have another ocin coming later in the year which I plan on keeping in the original mint box and not get graded. I am just trying to figure out what to do when my graded coin comes back. Would an MS69 FS be worth holding onto? Or, do you think it would be wise to flip it and pocket the profits? Thanks EE, I really appreciate all your wisdom.:23_1_22:

There will be a lot of 70's...but not enough to meet market demand.
I don't think the 69's will do any better than one in an open box...unless production ceases.
Let's just hope you get a 70 too!

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1615133)
There will be a lot of 70's...but not enough to meet market demand.
I don't think the 69's will do any better than one in an open box...unless production ceases.
Let's just hope you get a 70 too!

:) We shall see!

hernancortes 03-09-2009 09:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1614349)
That's completely true. There are only a few coins in the history of the world that compare to the beauty of the UHR. This baby will last.

Numismatics has a lot in common with art collecting/appreciation, and the art which is in the most demand and stands the test of time is that which is beautiful and/or historic. The UHR has beauty -- it is without equal in that regard. It is also historic, because it is being released for one year, in a year which will probably be considered a turning point in the history of the United States.

Yes but it's difficult what to make of the rumor/proposal that the UHR will be minted in palladium in 2010. Would probabaly be a relative sales flop which ironically means it could be good down the road.

HistoryStudent 03-09-2009 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1615118)
The 69 goes to a friend today...the 70 is not for sale!
These people that are selling them for low $3,000' s are selling too cheap imo.
They are going to be sorry.

Just the MONEY creating deficits (around 6 trillion) by the currenct folks in power will easily raise the prices next year.

Double, triple, quadrupple, 10 times? Who knows?

It depends upon the UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER trees used and how fast they turn toward their INTRINIC value of WORTH LESS NESS versus the 5,000 years in GOLDEN history.

:wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::w ink::wink::wink:

mshen11 03-09-2009 12:49 PM

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to PCGS or not PCGS?
a lot of questions but no convincing response either way.

also how would i get it if i dont want to apply for membership. half the people listed as authorized dealers are dead (bad contact number)

HistoryStudent 03-09-2009 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1615098)
Has the mint ever limit "one to a customer" on their other coins?

Just recently since GATA


http://www.gata.org/

figured out the gold held in TRUST by Treas/FED is probably blown to keep the price down. Problem is when supply is down one has rationing and shortages. :signs14:


Take a look at todays availablity!

http://www.golddealer.com/bullionpage.html


All is about toast. Next month who knows - maybe a doubling!


If you are one minute late - you are a cooked goose. :yes::111:

Here's a top ten song coming:

http://www.gata.org/node/wallstreetjournal

"Has anybody seen OUR gold?"

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1615112)
GG did you send yours in to be graded?
I gotta say, the more I look at this coin the more I love it.
It is truely the pinacle of US coinage. Where do they go from here?

I sent the first one I got in to get graded. They shipped it out to PCGS this morning. The second one (which I ordered this past weekend) will not be gettin graded if/when it comes in.

C&L 1911 03-09-2009 10:23 PM

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I received my UHR last week, and since I've been undecided about whether or not to have it graded, I kept the box sealed just in case I decided to go ahead and send it off. Well, the suspense was killing me - knowing it's in that ugly cardboard box and not being able to look at it. Also, when I received the box, I noticed something was loose inside and kept bouncing back and forth when I moved the box. That bothered me a little.

So tonight, I finally decided I wasn't going to get it graded after all, took a knife and cut the box open. It looked very well packed, double Styrofoam on top of the box, Mint blue box wrapped in soft foam sheet, inside the very impressive looking wooden box... My heart is pounding, I slowly open the wooden box... and to my dismay, the UHR eagle comes flying out of the box, literally, right in my lap (thank God is didn't land on the floor). WTF?!? Somehow, everything was packed correctly, the coin capsule was carefully put into its cut-out, etc. The only problem is THEY FORGOT TO PUT THE ****ING COIN INSIDE THE ****ING CAPSULE! Instead, they just casually threw it in the box. Now, the coin doesn't look like it has any scratches on it (then again, I haven't looked at it closely yet, as I'm still pissed beyond belief), but the rim looks like it has a number of dings on it from the coin sliding around inside the box. They are minor, but now I know they are there, so it sort of ruins the whole experience for me.

Now, the dilemma I'm facing is - what should I do? Should I just suck it up and keep it? OR should I send it back and have them replace it? But then if I do, will they put me at the end of the line after all other orders that have piled in during the last month or so? If so, there is a good chance I may never get a replacement at all...

Good thing I didn't send it to PCGS... That would have been $130 wasted.

:s15: :s15: :s15:

Apocalypto 03-09-2009 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1614709)
Tell me that when we re-live the early 80's. No disrespect for collectors however, commemoratives have been subject to massive devaluations in somewhat recent history. True numismatic pieces have been victims of the same. One should choose investments wisely. Passions, well that's another thing. :wink:

Well, I'll agree that anything is possible, but reliving the early 80's? Are you saying Eddie Murphy is coming back to do another yet Another 48 Hrs movie? Say it ain't so.

Seriously dude, money talks, you know the rest. As long as the price is moving up, things are great. The minute this coin starts to depreciate, get back to me and tell me I made a bad decision. My money's on UP from here.

EE_ 03-09-2009 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1616466)
I received my UHR last week, and since I've been undecided about whether or not to have it graded, I kept the box sealed just in case I decided to go ahead and send it off. Well, the suspense was killing me - knowing it's in that ugly cardboard box and not being able to look at it. Also, when I received the box, I noticed something was loose inside and kept bouncing back and forth when I moved the box. That bothered me a little.

So tonight, I finally decided I wasn't going to get it graded after all, took a knife and cut the box open. It looked very well packed, double Styrofoam on top of the box, Mint blue box wrapped in soft foam sheet, inside the very impressive looking wooden box... My heart is pounding, I slowly open the wooden box... and to my dismay, the UHR eagle comes flying out of the box, literally, right in my lap (thank God is didn't land on the floor). WTF?!? Somehow, everything was packed correctly, the coin capsule was carefully put into its cut-out, etc. The only problem is THEY FORGOT TO PUT THE ****ING COIN INSIDE THE ****ING CAPSULE! Instead, they just casually threw it in the box. Now, the coin doesn't look like it has any scratches on it (then again, I haven't looked at it closely yet, as I'm still pissed beyond belief), but the rim looks like it has a number of dings on it from the coin sliding around inside the box. They are minor, but now I know they are there, so it sort of ruins the whole experience for me.

Now, the dilemma I'm facing is - what should I do? Should I just suck it up and keep it? OR should I send it back and have them replace it? But then if I do, will they put me at the end of the line after all other orders that have piled in during the last month or so? If so, there is a good chance I may never get a replacement at all...

Good thing I didn't send it to PCGS... That would have been $130 wasted.

:s15: :s15: :s15:

Sorry to hear that...the coin is el junko! You need to call customer service to set up the return and find out when you will get another, asap!

EE_ 03-09-2009 10:54 PM

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Anyone notice that people are selling the brochure of the UHR that was sent out from the US Mint on ebay for 8 to 10 bucks? First time I've seen that before.

C&L 1911 03-09-2009 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1616502)
Sorry to hear that...the coin is el junko! You need to call customer service to set up the return and find out when you will get another, asap!

I called the Customer Service and told them what had happened. She said I should definitely send it back if I'm not happy with it and ask for replacement. Unfortunately, she didn't know how the exchange would be handled, and whether I would get a replacement coin right away (she didn't know if they even had any available right now), or would have to wait for the next batch. I asked her about the rumored blanks shortages and how it could affect my exchange, to which she replied that they haven't received any information regarding such shortages and since they are still taking orders for this coin, they are anticipating to have them all fulfilled. Take it for what its worth.

I also took a closer look at the coin, and it looks like there may not be as much damage as I first thought. There are a couple of light scuffs on the rim (not visible to a naked eye), but it's my first and only non-bullion coin, so I don't really have anything to compare to, and don't know what's acceptable and what's not on this type of coin. The edge looks like it has a few very minor "chips" in it when looking with a loupe, but then again, it may just be how all coins are (in other words, maybe my expectations are too high to begin with).

Oh, and the capsule is actually damaged, too; a small piece of the edge of the top lid is broken off. While it doesn't affect its function, it looks mighty ugly in the box. My guess is their packaging person tried opening the capsule, broke it, got mad and just put the empty capsule in its place and threw the coin in the box. So, even if I decide to keep the coin, I definitely need a new capsule, but I don't know if you can even buy one somewhere?

Gordon Gekko 03-09-2009 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1616564)
I called the Customer Service and told them what had happened. She said I should definitely send it back if I'm not happy with it and ask for replacement. Unfortunately, she didn't know how the exchange would be handled, and whether I would get a replacement coin right away (she didn't know if they even had any available right now), or would have to wait for the next batch. I asked her about the rumored blanks shortages and how it could affect my exchange, to which she replied that they haven't received any information regarding such shortages and since they are still taking orders for this coin, they are anticipating to have them all fulfilled. Take it for what its worth.

I also took a closer look at the coin, and it looks like there may not be as much damage as I first thought. There are a couple of light scuffs on the rim (not visible to a naked eye), but it's my first and only non-bullion coin, so I don't really have anything to compare to, and don't know what's acceptable and what's not on this type of coin. The edge looks like it has a few very minor "chips" in it when looking with a loupe, but then again, it may just be how all coins are (in other words, maybe my expectations are too high to begin with).

Oh, and the capsule is actually damaged, too; a small piece of the edge of the top lid is broken off. While it doesn't affect its function, it looks mighty ugly in the box. My guess is their packaging person tried opening the capsule, broke it, got mad and just put the empty capsule in its place and threw the coin in the box. So, even if I decide to keep the coin, I definitely need a new capsule, but I don't know if you can even buy one somewhere?


Let me preface this by saying that I am really sorry to hear about your experience. It just totally isn't right for them to treat customers like this, especially for such an expensive product.

With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate to return it for another. Waiting around a few months for a better coin is a lot better than looking at a damaged coin for the rest of your life (or for however long you plan on keeping it).

EE_ 03-09-2009 11:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1616564)
I called the Customer Service and told them what had happened. She said I should definitely send it back if I'm not happy with it and ask for replacement. Unfortunately, she didn't know how the exchange would be handled, and whether I would get a replacement coin right away (she didn't know if they even had any available right now), or would have to wait for the next batch. I asked her about the rumored blanks shortages and how it could affect my exchange, to which she replied that they haven't received any information regarding such shortages and since they are still taking orders for this coin, they are anticipating to have them all fulfilled. Take it for what its worth.

I also took a closer look at the coin, and it looks like there may not be as much damage as I first thought. There are a couple of light scuffs on the rim (not visible to a naked eye), but it's my first and only non-bullion coin, so I don't really have anything to compare to, and don't know what's acceptable and what's not on this type of coin. The edge looks like it has a few very minor "chips" in it when looking with a loupe, but then again, it may just be how all coins are (in other words, maybe my expectations are too high to begin with).

Oh, and the capsule is actually damaged, too; a small piece of the edge of the top lid is broken off. While it doesn't affect its function, it looks mighty ugly in the box. My guess is their packaging person tried opening the capsule, broke it, got mad and just put the empty capsule in its place and threw the coin in the box. So, even if I decide to keep the coin, I definitely need a new capsule, but I don't know if you can even buy one somewhere?

This is a nightmare I wouldn't want to deal with.
Do this and explain how you've waited long enough, you want another now! :favorites21:
Tomorrow during business hours, call back and ask to talk to headquarters.
Hope this helps.
If the 29,000 they have minted are gone, you are SOL until they find more planchets.

C&L 1911 03-09-2009 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1616581)
This is a nightmare I wouldn't want to deal with.
Do this and explain how you've waited long enough, you want another now! :favorites21:
Tomorrow during business hours, call back and ask to talk to headquarters.
Hope this helps.
If the 29,000 they have minted are gone, you are SOL until they find more planchets.

Thanks, I'll try that. As much as the CS lady tried making everything sound like it's not a big deal (me sending my coin back and getting a replacement, sooner or later), the voice in my head keeps telling me not to do it, because I may just never see another coin, ever again. So, unless someone at US Mint can give me a 100% guarantee that they have another coin waiting to be shipped to me once my coin is returned, I probably won't do it.

This whole mess once again reinforces my decision to never again get involved with numismatics and just stick with bullion... I don't need this headache.

Jenna 03-10-2009 12:26 AM

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C&L, I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I'm anxiously waiting for my coin to arrive and would be really upset if that happened to me. :bear_angry:

At that price, I'd return it if the coin is dinged up. If for some reason the Mint runs dry or can't offer a replacement, you still have the option of purchasing from a local trusted dealer, although you'll be stuck with a higher premium.

I really hope there's another batch on the way. :bawling:

lumpOgold 03-10-2009 01:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1616616)
[SNIP]

This whole mess once again reinforces my decision to never again get involved with numismatics and just stick with bullion... I don't need this headache.

I hear ya. :confused_ma:

I have been burned enough by the mint on these "collectibles", the only thing I regularly order from them now is the proof sets. And order my bulllion from one of the fine vendors that doesn't push me around.

j-son 03-10-2009 08:34 AM

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just got shipping confirmation that my high relief shipped!

i am not getting it graded..i like the mint's packaging too much

TomD 03-10-2009 08:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1616952)
just got shipping confirmation that my high relief shipped!

i am not getting it graded..i like the mint's packaging too much

Yeah, you'd be deminted to do that------

j-son 03-10-2009 08:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1616957)
Yeah, you'd be deminted to do that------

i might however flip it for $1600....any takers?

diversified2 03-10-2009 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1616952)
just got shipping confirmation that my high relief shipped!

i am not getting it graded..i like the mint's packaging too much

You must be relieved!!!! What was your order number BTW? I was in the first 1700 and still mine has not shipped!

j-son 03-10-2009 09:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1616983)
You must be reliefed!!!! What was your order number BTW? I was in the first 1700 and still mine has not shipped!

6301 was my number.
ups says it will be here today.

diversified2 03-10-2009 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1616996)
6301 was my number.
ups says it will be here today.

:banghead: I am about to go nuclear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:36_1_28:

hernancortes 03-10-2009 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1616564)
I called the Customer Service and told them what had happened. She said I should definitely send it back if I'm not happy with it and ask for replacement. Unfortunately, she didn't know how the exchange would be handled, and whether I would get a replacement coin right away (she didn't know if they even had any available right now), or would have to wait for the next batch. I asked her about the rumored blanks shortages and how it could affect my exchange, to which she replied that they haven't received any information regarding such shortages and since they are still taking orders for this coin, they are anticipating to have them all fulfilled. Take it for what its worth.

I also took a closer look at the coin, and it looks like there may not be as much damage as I first thought. There are a couple of light scuffs on the rim (not visible to a naked eye), but it's my first and only non-bullion coin, so I don't really have anything to compare to, and don't know what's acceptable and what's not on this type of coin. The edge looks like it has a few very minor "chips" in it when looking with a loupe, but then again, it may just be how all coins are (in other words, maybe my expectations are too high to begin with).

Oh, and the capsule is actually damaged, too; a small piece of the edge of the top lid is broken off. While it doesn't affect its function, it looks mighty ugly in the box. My guess is their packaging person tried opening the capsule, broke it, got mad and just put the empty capsule in its place and threw the coin in the box. So, even if I decide to keep the coin, I definitely need a new capsule, but I don't know if you can even buy one somewhere?

Sorry to hear about that, and unfortunately your experience is far too common. The mint is notorious for putting coins in plastic holders that dont seal, and then packing the boxes loose so they fly open. Twice I've ordered from them to find coins flopping around naked in the box.

ng1469 03-10-2009 11:50 AM

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This is what i like to see. That is the price im looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-PCGS-MS70-F...3A1|240%3A1318


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HistoryStudent 03-10-2009 05:03 PM

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You HAVE GOT to KNOW someone; JASON's my friend - he's first UP. Now you... Well perhaps after the SUMMER if we are still shipping I see you get that EXCHANGED one. MS60!

:signs14: I'm just jerking the CHAIN a tad; I'm in the same boat and we have to keep laughing!

Best wishes,

HS :111:
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1617003)
:banghead: I am about to go nuclear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:36_1_28:


HistoryStudent 03-10-2009 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1617263)
This is what i like to see. That is the price im looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-PCGS-MS70-F...3A1|240%3A1318

Wouldn't he get the last LAUGH if the MINT goes crazy and stops SHIPPING tomorrow! Kinda like FDR on steriods. :signs14::111::111:

1981 03-10-2009 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1617263)
This is what i like to see. That is the price im looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-PCGS-MS70-F...3A1|240%3A1318

Wow, an example of the holder being worth more than the coin?

HistoryStudent 03-10-2009 05:56 PM

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I talked to the High Exalted Director Undersecretary of the assistant of the US Mint and he said, "that they plan to stop all deliveries of the UHD Eagles soon."

So keep em if you got em and pray if you don't.


Now that jack up a few chains - I'll bet ya!

:marchmell:marchmell:marchmell:marchmell:sheep::sh eep::sheep:

EE_ 03-10-2009 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1617849)
I talked to the High Exalted Director Undersecretary of the assistant of the US Mint and he said, "that they plan to stop all deliveries of the UHD Eagles soon."

So keep em if you got em and pray if you don't.


Now that jack up a few chains - I'll bet ya!

:marchmell:marchmell:marchmell:marchmell:sheep::sh eep::sheep:

Can you elaborate on that?

Gordon Gekko 03-10-2009 06:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1617864)
Can you elaborate on that?

Agreed. I am very curious about this.

C&L 1911 03-10-2009 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1617864)
Can you elaborate on that?

I think HS was being sarcastic in that post, that's all.

I spoke to a supervisor at US Mint today trying to get a better understanding of how the exchange process works, and to find out what my chances are of getting a replacement in timely manner. The lady I spoke with assured me that I will be getting my replacement coin in 4-6 weeks (that's their standard turn around time for exchanges), which includes transit time both ways. In reality, she said, I should be getting it sooner than that (with expedited shipping both ways). She also assured me that there is no shortage of blanks for UHR, and all of the rumors floating around are not true. They are fully expecting to keep the production up until December of this year, just as planned. According to her, the shortage rumors are mostly fueled by dealers trying to make huge profits. With rationing of 1 coin per household, they expect to keep up with demand.

Also, she said there was a separate queue for all exchanges/replacement orders, and those orders get the priority over new orders and are always fulfilled first. Supposedly, a different department handles exchanges and they get more attention.

Take all of the above for what its worth; we all know we've been told things by US Mint that weren't necessarily accurate or even true, but she sounded very confident and knowledgeable. I'm sending my UHR back tomorrow and hoping for the best.

HistoryStudent 03-10-2009 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1617864)
Can you elaborate on that?

I apologize for using poor taste on a very bad and :signs14: sad tasting situation.

The recent Coin World explains that these on-going shipping of UHR Eagles will take a long time as the Mint keeps expanding the deliveries.

Sorry EE

1981 03-11-2009 10:19 AM

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The UHRDE thread hasn't been updated in 14 hours? c'mom guys, some garbage threads about saints & lunars got bumped ahead of us. Shape up troops. This should be the top thread in the PM forum until every last member gets their UHRDE!

Gordon Gekko 03-11-2009 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1619094)
The UHRDE thread hasn't been updated in 14 hours? c'mom guys, some garbage threads about saints & lunars got bumped ahead of us. Shape up troops. This should be the top thread in the PM forum until every last member gets their UHRDE!

I agree! I don't have much to say at the moment. Still waiting to hear back from the dealer for when my coin comes back from PCGS and I am also still waiting on my second one to come in from the Mint.

1981 03-11-2009 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1619098)
I agree! I don't have much to say at the moment. Still waiting to hear back from the dealer for when my coin comes back from PCGS and I am also still waiting on my second one to come in from the Mint.

Good, Good. I'll throw in some righteous indignation that you're waiting on your second while I'm waiting on my first! I can see it now:

Mint Crook 1: Do we have any more MS-70 FS that we can send to Gordon Gekko?
Mint Crook 2: Sure, here's the last one.
Mint Crook 3: What about this poor 1981 guy, he's been waiting months.
Mint Crook 1: Do we still have that sidewalk chalk slug that C&L 1911 sent back? Send him that one.
:shot:

Gordon Gekko 03-11-2009 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1619106)
Good, Good. I'll throw in some righteous indignation that you're waiting on your second while I'm waiting on my first! I can see it now:

Mint Crook 1: Do we have any more MS-70 FS that we can send to Gordon Gekko?
Mint Crook 2: Sure, here's the last one.
Mint Crook 3: What about this poor 1981 guy, he's been waiting months.
Mint Crook 1: Do we still have that sidewalk chalk slug that C&L 1911 sent back? Send him that one.
:shot:

:111: Let's hope that's not the series of events that unfolds. BUT, no guarantees!!

HistoryStudent 03-11-2009 11:18 AM

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from coin blog:

**************************8



I Finally Got My UHR!
Friday March 6, 2009
My Ultra-High Relief (UHR) gold coin came yesterday, and the UPS guy brought it all the way up three flights of stairs to hand it to me without a signature. The specimen I received looks gorgeous; it's an easy MS-70 in my opinion. I can't see any flaws whatsoever under 10x magnification that were caused by any post-striking event, although I do see the same faint raised hairlines that others have reported. My best guess is that we're seeing these because the relatively soft metal of a pure solid gold coin picks up detail that a 90% gold coin wouldn't reflect, (but I'm sure we could have a lively debate about that as opinions are varied. It might just be that the basining of the dies required for a coin with such curved surfaces would require some kind of hand processing of all the dies and that this is perfectly normal and to be expected.) Coin World reported last week that the UHR dies only last for 500 coins!

The coin was loose in the box, like many others collectors reported, but still securely in the capsule. The capsule wasn't fully closed, though. It was all the way closed on one side but only half-way down on the other side. The coin has a bit of a wire rim, but not enough to have caused this lack of closure. The coin isn't rattling around much in the capsule; it's pretty secure.

One thing that does concern me more is the strong smell coming the box. It's a very pleasant, wood-like smell, but it means that the wood is releasing vapors that will probably cause the coin to tone over time. (Yes, even pure gold tones, but the toning also comes off very easily. Even so, I'm not sure I like the idea of storing my coin in that box for 40 years.)

Of course, the box is stunningly beautiful, like most high-end U.S. Mint product packaging is, but my neighbor had a pretty amusing reaction to it. He follows my newsletter so he was aware of the whole UHR debate, but he's not a coin collector (despite my best efforts.) I had taken the whole kit and caboodle down to show him the package, shipping box and all. As I extracted piece by piece out of the box, (the book-is-coming-later notice, the packing slip, 2 layers of foam, and then finally the tissue-wrapped blue outer carton itself) he watched with interest, but didn't say anything. I slid the blue box out of the blue sleeve, and then took the lid off the blue box to find the inner tissue wrapper covering the wooden box. After removing that and examining the little padded pillow that protects the front of the wooden box, I finally extracted the wooden box itself and held it out for him to admire.

He said, "nice box" as I opened it up and handed him the certificate of authenticity. Then I turned the box around so he could see the coin in its pride of place. At this point, he broke out in gaggles of belly laughing! I couldn't help but laugh along with him (not sure why, but laughing is infectious) and then he finally managed to say, "all that to-do for that little bitty coin?!"

You have to admit, the box is a little on the big side for a coin about the size of a quarter dollar. ;) But Mint Director Ed Moy should be proud of his accomplishment. He is lucky and blessed to get to see this coin come to market before Obama puts a Democrat in the Mint Director's job. Too bad about all of the surrounding distraction regarding the shipping of this coin, because this coin will be remembered forever. Too bad the mess surrounding its shipping will be a part of that history.

You can see photos of all of these UHR packaging elements, plus side-by-side photos of the 2009 UHR next to the original 1907 version, in the Coin Collecting Forum. Be sure to join the discussion and share your opinion of this great American accomplishment!"

HistoryStudent 03-11-2009 03:02 PM

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On March 13, 2008, U.S. Mint Director Ed Moy announced to the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee his intent to recreate the Ultra-High Relief Double Eagle (UHRDE) $20 gold piece which was designed by Augustus Saint-Gaudens in 1907. Saint-Gaudens� design proved impractical to produce with the technology of 1907, so a modified version of the artist�s creation was used on the Double Eagle from 1907 until the denomination was discontinued in 1933. The last coin in the series has always been controversial, with the Mint denying that any of the 1933 Double Eagle issues were released to the public, although several specimens are in private hands.

When the Mint announced a new Double Eagle for 2009, it had no way of knowing that the public release of the new piece would become as controversial and mysterious as the release of the last piece. What follows is a timeline of key events in the release of the UHRDE gold coin.

Events Prior to the UHRDE Release
March 13, 2008

A U.S. Mint Press Release reveals plans to recreate the UHRDE gold coin. The Mint chooses to develop a 27-mm version of the coin, based on the second trial pattern used in 1907. This pattern, created from two $10 Gold Eagle planchets (coin blanks) melded together, could not be struck for circulation in 1907 as the Mint had no authority to produce coins of this size. The new UHRDE coins based on this pattern will only be sold in 2009.

Congressman Michael Castle introduces a bill in the House (H.R. 5614) to require the coin to be struck in palladium to make it more affordable for collectors.

Gold closes in London at $995.00 per ounce.

April 28, 2008

Senator Max Baucus introduces a companion bill in the Senate (S. 2924) to require the UHRDE coin to be struck in palladium to make it more affordable to collectors.

Gold closes in London at $890.50 per ounce.

May 2, 2008

A U.S. Mint Press Release indicates that Treasury Secretary Paulson has approved the coin. Although a $20 bullion piece is not currently in use, a section in the 1992 law which authorized the 1995/1996 Atlanta commemorative coin program gives the Secretary authority to issue gold coins in any size, denomination, weight, or fineness as needed (Public Law 102-390).

May 15, 2008

H.R. 5614 passes the House of Representatives. After the Bill is referred to the Senate Banking Committee, no further action is taken.

July 30, 2008

At the American Numismatic Association's Baltimore coin show, the Mint unveils a display showing the current development and history of the UHRDE coin.

November 24, 2008
The Mint holds a First Strike ceremony for the UHRDE coin at the West Point Mint facility and begins production of the coin.

UHRDE Events Following Release
January 22, 2009

The U.S. Mint officially begins taking orders for the UHRDE coin. Collectors report problems with the online and phone ordering systems, especially in the first few hours. Uncertain of demand for the coin and concerned about a global shortage of gold, the Mint warns customers that it may take six to nine months to fulfill orders. The initial price of the coin is $1,189. Gold closes in London at $860.0 per ounce.

Orders placed during the first hour are given an initial January 28th shipping date. Orders placed throughout the rest of the day are given the shipping date of February 6th.

January 27, 2009

The Mint releases initial sales figures for the UHRDE. Approximately 28,000 coins are sold on the first day, and approximately 42,000 coins had been sold as of midnight, January 26th.

Many customers who ordered the UHRDE on the first day began to receive email notifications that shipping will be delayed until February 11th, and in some cases, as late as February 20th.

February 3, 2009

Some customers are able to see their coins as �In Stock and Reserved� on the Mint�s Web site with February 6th ship dates.

During the unveiling ceremony for the UHRDE exhibit at the Philadelphia Mint, Ed Moy reveals that the Mint has struck 29,000 UHRDE coins so far.

February 6, 2009

Collectors begin to report en masse that their �In Stock� coins have shifted to �Backorder� status, and shipping dates have been delayed to February 20th.

In spite of this, many customers report that a funding hold has been placed on their credit cards or that their cards have been charged for the coin. Over the next several weeks, funds are released or the charges are reversed.

February 9, 2009

A handful of collectors report that they have received the UHRDE coin. Most of the collectors who received their coins admit to placing their orders on the 3rd to 5th day after sales begin. This is contrary to the "First In, First Out" (FIFO) promise previously made by the U.S. Mint regarding this coin.

Customers calling the Mint�s Customer Service Center are told variations of the following reasons for not receiving their coins � a reminder of the six-month potential delay, a reminder of gold shortages, a denial that any coins have shipped, and denials that 29,000 coins had been struck.

UHRDE Related Security Flaws Emerge
February 12, 2009

The Mint�s Track Order feature mysteriously disappears. Online reports indicate that there is a security flaw on the Mint�s Web site. Reports state that the Track Order feature could be accessed without logging in to the Mint�s Web site, and anyone who had the order number and customer's surname could cancel the order without being logged in.

February 14, 2009

Reports begin to surface that some customer orders have been canceled, possibly through information shared on the Internet and the Mint�s Web site security flaw.

Reports begin to surface that the Mint no longer requires signatures for delivery of coins, regardless of the value being shipped.

Reports begin to surface that shipping problems with the UHRDE coin may be caused by the companion book that is supposed to be shipped with the coin.

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shortstack 03-11-2009 05:29 PM

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1 hour till the fedex guy comes. Have to decide by then if I should send my coin to PCGS for grading.

I am not concerned so much about the money it will cost me for this. My concerns:

1. The original capsol is not sent back to you with the graded coin. My plan was to remove the coin from the MS69 holder if I so choose in the future. They told me to write "send back the original capsol" on my order form in a few places, maybe PCGS would break protocall and send me back the original capsol, but maybe not. And they insisted that I send the coin in the original capsol when I called

2. The ever so slight danger that the package would be lost intransit going either way, so if I cannot get another coin from the mint (ordered Yesterday) then I get the FRN's back as insurance but no coin.

If the coin comes back as a MS70, then I will still break it out of the seal later on if the MS70 does not get me a serious premium. That said, wonder if the mint would send me an empty capsol if I asked...

j-son 03-11-2009 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1619994)
1 hour till the fedex guy comes. Have to decide by then if I should send my coin to PCGS for grading.

I am not concerned so much about the money it will cost me for this. My concerns:

1. The original capsol is not sent back to you with the graded coin. My plan was to remove the coin from the MS69 holder if I so choose in the future. They told me to write "send back the original capsol" on my order form in a few places, maybe PCGS would break protocall and send me back the original capsol, but maybe not. And they insisted that I send the coin in the original capsol when I called

2. The ever so slight danger that the package would be lost intransit going either way, so if I cannot get another coin from the mint (ordered Yesterday) then I get the FRN's back as insurance but no coin.

If the coin comes back as a MS70, then I will still break it out of the seal later on if the MS70 does not get me a serious premium. That said, wonder if the mint would send me an empty capsol if I asked...

you can probably buy the empty packaging capsule on ebay

HistoryStudent 03-11-2009 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1619994)
1 hour till the fedex guy comes. Have to decide by then if I should send my coin to PCGS for grading.

I am not concerned so much about the money it will cost me for this. My concerns:

1. The original capsol is not sent back to you with the graded coin. My plan was to remove the coin from the MS69 holder if I so choose in the future. They told me to write "send back the original capsol" on my order form in a few places, maybe PCGS would break protocall and send me back the original capsol, but maybe not. And they insisted that I send the coin in the original capsol when I called

2. The ever so slight danger that the package would be lost intransit going either way, so if I cannot get another coin from the mint (ordered Yesterday) then I get the FRN's back as insurance but no coin.

If the coin comes back as a MS70, then I will still break it out of the seal later on if the MS70 does not get me a serious premium. That said, wonder if the mint would send me an empty capsol if I asked...

Same boat - mine came today at 10:00 a.m. looks like MS70 under 10 X loop power. (Check YOURS before sending it in! Please) I have a lot of MS saints and double liberties too - the new coin looks like a super thick $10 Indian; sorry for the ones that love it.

Frankly, I'm keeping it in the box and storing it. Maybe in a FEW months I'll walk it through during a major coin show. Pretty coin but they shoulda woulda coulda mighta maybea made it a tad BIGGER BIGGER BIGGER.

But, it's still a fine coin just in between two dozen MS64 & MS65 SAINTS it KINDA GETS LOST!

:signs14::yes:

I wonder if the mint going to cancel these soon as a loss leader - meaning that the dies and the problems are stacking up for the profits gained. Also I wonder if the gold available is a problem?

Gordon Gekko 03-11-2009 11:19 PM

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I have noticed that the PCGS MS70's on ebay are going for a lot less than they did a week ago. I have seen some sell for the low to mid 2000's. Kind of disappointing IMO. I am having regrets about sending mine in and I haven't even gotten it back yet!

EE_ 03-12-2009 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1620673)
I have noticed that the PCGS MS70's on ebay are going for a lot less than they did a week ago. I have seen some sell for the low to mid 2000's. Kind of disappointing IMO. I am having regrets about sending mine in and I haven't even gotten it back yet!

People are hurting and need money. IMO, they are foolish to sell them that cheap, before this whole thing plays out.
It might be wise to grab some in the low $2,000 range.

Apocalypto 03-12-2009 12:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1620673)
I have noticed that the PCGS MS70's on ebay are going for a lot less than they did a week ago. I have seen some sell for the low to mid 2000's. Kind of disappointing IMO. I am having regrets about sending mine in and I haven't even gotten it back yet!

No regrets, Mr. Gekko. No regrets. In time the value will rise to the challenge.

Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-12-2009 03:10 AM

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The MS70 UHR's are going for alot more than MS70 GAE's (as they should).

And we must remember that the original Saints have 80-100 years on their side.

mick silver 03-12-2009 03:38 AM

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i got mine on 3, 11 it a very nice looking coin , well the book come later

Gordon Gekko 03-12-2009 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1620772)
People are hurting and need money. IMO, they are foolish to sell them that cheap, before this whole thing plays out.
It might be wise to grab some in the low $2,000 range.

That's true. Perhaps I'll just hold onto my graded one for a while and see what pans out. That'll probably be the best play.

Gordon Gekko 03-12-2009 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1620806)
No regrets, Mr. Gekko. No regrets. In time the value will rise to the challenge.

I hope you're right Apoca. We shall see my friend, we shall see. Now I'm just hoping mine comes back MS70 and not MS69!

rodzm 03-12-2009 01:51 PM

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Well people I gave in to fleabay and bought one sealed for $1745, I have one on order from the mint as well. My plans are to keep one sealed and one for show. I figured keeping one sealed for a few years will be rare and I could turn a decent profit on.

Im tired on waiting on the mint and with people receving notices about their orders being cancelled who knows what will happen with the UHR. I ordered mine on the 13 of February and have yet to see any charges on my credit card so it will be a long while if I ever get the coin

1981 03-12-2009 01:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1621670)
Well people I gave in to fleabay and bought one sealed for $1745,

Ack, *cough*, *cough*, *gag*, Ack, Ack!:puke:

Okay...Ok.... I feel better now. Man, a $600 premium? You'll need to sell your one from the mint on ebay to make that back up.

rodzm 03-12-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1621688)
Ack, *cough*, *cough*, *gag*, Ack, Ack!:puke:

Okay...Ok.... I feel better now. Man, a $600 premium? You'll need to sell your one from the mint on ebay to make that back up.

I looked at it as a $456 premium. They dont sell for less than $1289...tough to swallow such a high premium but with the uncertainty surrounding UHR's god knows what will happen.

I dont feel too bad about the purchase, I have plenty of vintage toys Ive been wanting to sell that will bring in a few hundred dollars each and could potentially pay for the coin and then some. At this time putting my money on gold or silver is more important than plastic toys. Toys can become a stagnant market

1981 03-12-2009 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1621716)
I looked at it as a $456 premium. They dont sell for less than $1289...tough to swallow such a high premium but with the uncertainty surrounding UHR's god knows what will happen.

I dont feel too bad about the purchase, I have plenty of vintage toys Ive been wanting to sell that will bring in a few hundred dollars each and could potentially pay for the coin and then some. At this time putting my money on gold or silver is more important than plastic toys. Toys can become a stagnant market

Well, you'll probably make it back when I have to buy yours for $3000 'cause the mint suspends the program.

Jenna 03-12-2009 03:41 PM

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The UHR is still listed for sale on the Mint website but the "won't ship until May 24th" text has disappeared. That makes me a bit nervous.

Arr, I want me coin! :tongue_ma:

chad 03-12-2009 03:45 PM

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i ordered one on monday of this week. they cancelled it on wednesday.


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Jenna 03-12-2009 04:04 PM

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Ya, I saw that, Chad. Are you planning on buying the UHR elsewhere?

My mom placed a second order for me this past weekend (either Sunday or Monday - I'll need to check her receipt). I won't see her again until tomorrow so I'll let you guys know if she received anything about her order being canceled.

:bear_cry: :bawling: :bear_cry:

chad 03-12-2009 04:07 PM

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no, i spent the money on 5 palladium bars instead. no gold for me (for now).

1981 03-12-2009 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenna (Post 1621851)
The UHR is still listed for sale on the Mint website but the "won't ship until May 24th" text has disappeared. That makes me a bit nervous.

Arr, I want me coin! :tongue_ma:

Don't worry, that just means that the mint is caught up and everyone who ordered one before today now has theirs. If you don't have yours by now it means that UPS left it on your door step last week and some punk kids stole it for drug money. :biggrin:

Jenna 03-12-2009 04:10 PM

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Nooooooo!

Don't tease me! :yippee:

Gordon Gekko 03-12-2009 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chad (Post 1621857)
i ordered one on monday of this week. they cancelled it on wednesday.

Was this the first one you ordered?

chad 03-12-2009 04:13 PM

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yep, first one. i was going to jump in to to gold in a big way, and then they cancelled it 2 days later. i took it as an omen and switched over to palladium.

1981 03-12-2009 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chad (Post 1621916)
yep, first one. i was going to jump in to to gold in a big way, and then they cancelled it 2 days later. i took it as an omen and switched over to palladium.

Palladium? Why did you jump into that!?! Sell it quick and get a Krugerrand or something! Quick, before GM files for bankruptcy and palladium starts showing up in Chinese products 'cause it's cheaper than lead!

Apocalypto 03-12-2009 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1621925)
Palladium? Why did you jump into that!?! Sell it quick and get a Krugerrand or something!

I beg to differ. Palladium might indeed be a very lucrative investment at this time:

Norilsk may close Tati Mine

"Norilsk, the world's largest nickel and palladium producer."

http://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?sid=4&.../March/Friday6


Why Palladium ETFs are booming

Commodity Online
"Palladium has enjoyed a similar rally to platinum, fixing at $217/oz on 18th February, its highest since November 2008. There is a solid reason for the recovery -- production is being cut at many mining companies, and Norilsk reiterated its much-reduced output forecast for 2009."

http://www.commodityonline.com/news/...15841-3-1.html

rodzm 03-12-2009 05:03 PM

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Well guys something very weird has happened to the credit card i used to buy the second UHR (which i ordered on Feb 13). My limit has decreased drastically which means the mint has hit up my crdit card with a charge and since according to the website:

When placing your order, please consider your credit card�s expiration date, as charges will coincide with shipment. If your credit card has expired by the time of shipment, your order will be cancelled. To update your credit card information, you must call 1-800-USA-MINT and have your order number available.


This could mean my order is on its way or will be shipped very soon. The elimination of the May 24 shipment notice could be good or bad. Im leaning towards bad...since some people are getting cancelling notices

Gordon Gekko 03-12-2009 05:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1622014)
Well guys something very weird has happened to the credit card i used to buy the second UHR (which i ordered on Feb 13). My limit has decreased drastically which means the mint has hit up my crdit card with a charge and since according to the website:

When placing your order, please consider your credit card�s expiration date, as charges will coincide with shipment. If your credit card has expired by the time of shipment, your order will be cancelled. To update your credit card information, you must call 1-800-USA-MINT and have your order number available.


This could mean my order is on its way or will be shipped very soon. The elimination of the May 24 shipment notice could be good or bad. Im leaning towards bad...since some people are getting cancelling notices


Sounds to me like yours is on its way :565:

The same thing happened to me when they shipped mine, FWIW.

rodzm 03-12-2009 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1622017)
Sounds to me like yours is on its way :565:

The same thing happened to me when they shipped mine, FWIW.


Yeah but why are some people reporting orders being cancelled. This cant be good at all, perhaps they have taken enough orders for the amount of blanks they have. My order according to their schedule was supposed to ship on or about the 6th. Im pretty excited but now Im stuck with 2 of them, its not problems as I can keep one for myself and one for resale. This may sound evil but Im hoping that they are pretty much done with production, at least for a good long while. It reduces the amount of UHR's out there.

chad 03-12-2009 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1621925)
Palladium? Why did you jump into that!?! Sell it quick and get a Krugerrand or something! Quick, before GM files for bankruptcy and palladium starts showing up in Chinese products 'cause it's cheaper than lead!

i figure russia controls 45% of the world's palladium, and russians are good horse traders. plus it's historically really, really cheap now.

1981 03-12-2009 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1622023)
This may sound evil but Im hoping that they are pretty much done with production, at least for a good long while. It reduces the amount of UHR's out there.

Yes, yes it is very evil. Until I get mine, and then I hope the presses break and ten thousand gangsters steal them off everyone's porch and melt them for scrap. But that's just me.

rodzm 03-12-2009 06:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1622041)
Yes, yes it is very evil. Until I get mine, and then I hope the presses break and ten thousand gangsters steal them off everyone's porch and melt them for scrap. But that's just me.


I read on Kitco that you ordered yours 12 days after the initital sales, if so you should be seeing a charge on your card very soon. All these cancellation reports are definitely not a good sign but I highly doubt that the mint has completely stopped production on them. It is possible that they have halted production temporarily until they can catch up on orders or to get more blanks.

I hope the production is extremely limited so those of us who get it can enjoy nice return when it is time to sell. Best of luck...let us know when you get a hit on your card

Jenna 03-12-2009 06:45 PM

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From the front page of the 'shop online' link:

"The United States Mint is pleased to announce that we will resume shipping the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin during the week of February 22, 2009. However, because of production problems with the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin Companion Book, you may receive only the COIN and presentation box at this time. If you are a customer who receives the COIN without the Companion Book, we will ship the Companion Book to you, at no extra charge, when it becomes available. For information on how this may affect the return of the product if you are not satisfied, please see FAQ #210."

http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...atalogId=10001

My tracking order went from back ordered status to 'in stock and reserved'. :36_3_12:

edit: still no anticipated shipping date showing, however. I'm not sure if this is a good sign!

CoinNut 03-12-2009 07:00 PM

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:yes: It is a good sign..Orders go from, HOLD to IN PROCESS to IN STOCK and RESERVED to SHIPPED.....Mine are at the grading company now(PCGS). Ordered first hour available and by chance, got shipment. That darn book was holding everyones' up. Check for ANY damage on receipt and return for replacement. These should be near perfect.

1981 03-13-2009 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1622068)
I read on Kitco that you ordered yours 12 days after the initital sales, if so you should be seeing a charge on your card very soon. All these cancellation reports are definitely not a good sign but I highly doubt that the mint has completely stopped production on them. It is possible that they have halted production temporarily until they can catch up on orders or to get more blanks.

I hope the production is extremely limited so those of us who get it can enjoy nice return when it is time to sell. Best of luck...let us know when you get a hit on your card

Hey, a Kitco Buddy!:ciao: I'll let y'all know as soon as it happens.

rodzm 03-13-2009 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1622139)
:yes: It is a good sign..Orders go from, HOLD to IN PROCESS to IN STOCK and RESERVED to SHIPPED.....Mine are at the grading company now(PCGS). Ordered first hour available and by chance, got shipment. That darn book was holding everyones' up. Check for ANY damage on receipt and return for replacement. These should be near perfect.

I just checked my status and it says In stock and reserved, the book says it is backordered expected to ship on April 1st.

Does anybody have any experience in sending coins to PCGS or NGC personally rather than through a dealer??? What is their turnaround time and would my coin be eligible for First Strike or Early release designation if the box itself says 3/11/2009.

Also which company is better...NGC or PCGS????

hernancortes 03-13-2009 12:26 PM

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PCGS gives fewer 70 grades which is why they tend to fetch more money. I do not think they are appreciably more conservative on sub-gem grades and many claim that NGC is actually more consistent.

HistoryStudent 03-13-2009 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1623467)
I just checked my status and it says In stock and reserved, the book says it is backordered expected to ship on April 1st.

Does anybody have any experience in sending coins to PCGS or NGC personally rather than through a dealer??? What is their turnaround time and would my coin be eligible for First Strike or Early release designation if the box itself says 3/11/2009.

Also which company is better...NGC or PCGS????

Call both the companys talk to customer service - PCGS is a better hallmark (slightly).

Both are not in a hurry to get your coin(s) back to you. Only ANACS was great in that regard.

I would probably join PCGS if it was my first ti:wink:me.


I see that the UHR Eagles are now $1289 and ship this month if you order today. Now - I PRAY everyone out there has their
UHR Eagle in the personal possession held closely and dear - and forever shall you BOTH be together.

HistoryStudent 03-13-2009 05:42 PM

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To whom it may concern from HS


Notice I received:

************************************


AT LAST

2009 $20 ULTRA HIGH RELIEFS

NGC MS-69

EARLY RELEASES

ARE IN STOCK!!!!!!

$1,835.00





Greeting from Modern Coin Mart,



You requested to be notified when the 2009 $20 High Reliefs are available for sale. We expect the NGC Early Releases to be very scarce due to the limited amount of coins shipped by the US Mint. If you want an Early Releases we recommend ordering now since we only have a handful available. Once these are gone that’s it. The current price of the 2009 $20 Ultra High Relief NGC MS-69 Early Releases is $1,835 delivered. If interested please call me at (800) 362-9004 x345 Monday-Friday 9am-5:00pm EST.



Thanks you for your time and call with any questions!!!!!



Michele



Michele K Freisberg

Customer Service Specialist

Modern Coin Mart

5565 Broadcast Court

Sarasota, FL 34210

800-362-9004 Ext-345

michele@moderncoinmart.com


WOW!

I ordered from the mint to day for $1289:10_1_20::RockOn::36_1_32v:

End of Hope 03-13-2009 10:11 PM

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It's on it's way! It's on it's way!


:yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee:

After being told late April, it shipped on my lucky Friday the 13th!

(I ordered the day they became available)

Gordon Gekko 03-13-2009 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1624454)
It's on it's way! It's on it's way!


:yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee:

After being told late April, it shipped on my lucky Friday the 13th!

(I ordered the day they became available)

It's been a long time comin'!!! Congrats! And who says bad things happen on Friday the 13th?...pssshhhhh.:RockOn:

j-son 03-13-2009 10:16 PM

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just buy one here

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-Ultra-Hi...QQcmdZViewItem

End of Hope 03-13-2009 10:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1624468)

Thanks for enticing me to check the overall & average slabbed prices. :biggrin:

I'm still deciding whether to go the great trouble to submit mine (I'm in a rural area, and not eligible for direct submission).

End of Hope 03-13-2009 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1624462)
It's been a long time comin'!!! Congrats! And who says bad things happen on Friday the 13th?...pssshhhhh.:RockOn:

Indeed & thanks! I've always liked Friday the 13th.

kiwi_envoy 03-13-2009 10:43 PM

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Mines coming soon. :565:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...envoy/urhc.png

Gordon Gekko 03-14-2009 12:35 PM

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Has anyone else noticed that the NGC MS70's are going for a lot more on Ebay than the PCGS MS70's? The highest (that actually has bids) NGC I am seeing now is at $2,950 and only $2,325 for PCGS. Straaaange...

EE_ 03-14-2009 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1625108)
Has anyone else noticed that the NGC MS70's are going for a lot more on Ebay than the PCGS MS70's? The highest (that actually has bids) NGC I am seeing now is at $2,950 and only $2,325 for PCGS. Straaaange...

Where did you see an NGC on ebay?

Gordon Gekko 03-14-2009 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1625198)
Where did you see an NGC on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-W-20-ULTRA-...1%7C240%3A1318


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EE_ 03-14-2009 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1625209)

I see! different search title.
One thing is for sure, a whole lot of these are grading MS 70.
Not sure how these will play out, but I'm keeping mine.
Mint sales are slowing too. Maybe people are getting tapped out?

diversified2 03-14-2009 02:18 PM

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Finally got mine on friday the 13th...It's perfect and would probably grade a 70. I am not going to get it graded as I don't like the way they look in the PCGS or NGC holders. I also don't plan on selling it either. This one will be a keeper that I will pass on to my son. :wink:

Gordon Gekko 03-14-2009 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1625219)
I see! different search title.
One thing is for sure, a whole lot of these are grading MS 70.
Not sure how these will play out, but I'm keeping mine.
Mint sales are slowing too. Maybe people are getting tapped out?

Yea, when I do an Ebay search for the coin, I just type in "Ultra High Reflief". If mine comes back MS70, I might just have to flip it if I could get $3,000 for it.

rodzm 03-14-2009 02:39 PM

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Im have a great dilemma here and it is the fact that I have a sealed one coming from Ebay with a postmarked date of 3/11 which would make it eligible for First Strike and I also have one that the mint is going to send me soon, however that one will not qualify for the FS designation. Should I take the one I get from Ebay and send it in to get graded and keep the second one sealed in the package or open that one and leave it ungraded.

Im thinking that in the long term future if i keep the second one sealed it could fetch a nice premium since not many wil be left in a sealed box. I definitely want to send the one from Ebay to get graded but I really dont know what to do with the second one wether to open it or leave it in the sealed box

C&L 1911 03-14-2009 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1625267)
Im have a great dilemma here and it is the fact that I have a sealed one coming from Ebay with a postmarked date of 3/11 which would make it eligible for First Strike and I also have one that the mint is going to send me soon, however that one will not qualify for the FS designation. Should I take the one I get from Ebay and send it in to get graded and keep the second one sealed in the package or open that one and leave it ungraded.

Im thinking that in the long term future if i keep the second one sealed it could fetch a nice premium since not many wil be left in a sealed box. I definitely want to send the one from Ebay to get graded but I really dont know what to do with the second one wether to open it or leave it in the sealed box

What if the one you have in the sealed box is defective/scratched/damaged/etc.? I learned the hard way, but at least I was within the 30 day exchange window (for orders placed in January). With new orders, you only get 7 days return/exchange window, and once you're out, you're stuck with whatever "surprise" is waiting for you in that sealed box.

Gordon Gekko 03-14-2009 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1625276)
What if the one you have in the sealed box is defective/scratched/damaged/etc.? I learned the hard way, but at least I was within the 30 day exchange window (for orders placed in January). With new orders, you only get 7 days return/exchange window, and once you're out, you're stuck with whatever "surprise" is waiting for you in that sealed box.

That's a very good point. I will more than likely be opening up my second one if/when it comes in.

Gordon Gekko 03-14-2009 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1625239)
Finally got mine on friday the 13th...It's perfect and would probably grade a 70. I am not going to get it graded as I don't like the way they look in the PCGS or NGC holders. I also don't plan on selling it either. This one will be a keeper that I will pass on to my son. :wink:

Alright! Let's see some pics! :36_1_34:

rodzm 03-14-2009 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1625276)
What if the one you have in the sealed box is defective/scratched/damaged/etc.? I learned the hard way, but at least I was within the 30 day exchange window (for orders placed in January). With new orders, you only get 7 days return/exchange window, and once you're out, you're stuck with whatever "surprise" is waiting for you in that sealed box.

Im not too sure I want a "surprise", two UHR's will be nice to have and hell even if I open the second one I can still keep the shipping box. I guess my vintage toys thinking is what is taking over. Im a sealed toys type of guy but its not gonna matter so much with coins so long as it is in the capsule.

Was the sscratched coin that was posted on this forum yours??? I remember seeing one that looked like it was dragged across the concrete

C&L 1911 03-14-2009 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1625282)
Im not too sure I want a "surprise", two UHR's will be nice to have and hell even if I open the second one I can still keep the shipping box. I guess my vintage toys thinking is what is taking over. Im a sealed toys type of guy but its not gonna matter so much with coins so long as it is in the capsule.

Was the sscratched coin that was posted on this forum yours??? I remember seeing one that looked like it was dragged across the concrete

See, that's the problem, my coin wasn't even in the capsule, it was just loose in the box. You can see my post on the page 21 of this thread.

Here's my post about it:

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...&postcount=823

End of Hope 03-14-2009 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1625108)
Has anyone else noticed that the NGC MS70's are going for a lot more on Ebay than the PCGS MS70's? The highest (that actually has bids) NGC I am seeing now is at $2,950 and only $2,325 for PCGS. Straaaange...

Great! NGC was who I'll probably submit to, if I do - cheaper for me.

That disgusting and fraudulent "First Strike" label from PCGS makes me sick.

diversified2 03-14-2009 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1625281)
Alright! Let's see some pics! :36_1_34:

Maybe later....I put it back in the box...went out to move a tree from my flower garden and plant it in the lawn since it's still dormant and was getting too big. Muddy cold mess...sleepy now...plant some peas in garden tomorrow...like eatting them raw they are like candy to me. Never end up with enough to cook cause I eat them as I pick them. My Mom never sent me to pick peas for dinner when I was growing up...:biggrin:LOL

EE_ 03-14-2009 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1625515)
Great! NGC was who I'll probably submit to, if I do - cheaper for me.

That disgusting and fraudulent "First Strike" label from PCGS makes me sick.

I'm not defending the label, but there's no difference. The label clearly states it's an early release.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0859.jpg

ng1469 03-15-2009 01:19 AM

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

I just checked my order status on PCGS and my UHR graded MS70!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:565::5_1_120::565::5_1_120::565::5_1_120:

WOOO HOOOOOOOOO :getdown::getdown::getdown::getdown:

:shine::shine::shine::shine::shine::9536::9536:: bancha bancha

rodzm 03-15-2009 05:48 AM

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There is too many 70's coming back, not that its a bad thing but I think the market will be flooded with 70's before you know it. I think NGCs are fetchng more because the cutof was on the 9th instead of the 11th like PCGS

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out when the dust settles

HistoryStudent 03-15-2009 09:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1626303)
There is too many 70's coming back, not that its a bad thing but I think the market will be flooded with 70's before you know it. I think NGCs are fetchng more because the cutof was on the 9th instead of the 11th like PCGS

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out when the dust settles

I wonder HOW long the sales will continue. If gold skyrockets....

Best wishes,

HS


The mint AIN'T selling too many precious metal coins are they - anymore any more.

End of Hope 03-15-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1625547)
I'm not defending the label, but there's no difference. The label clearly states it's an early release.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0859.jpg

On the back of the label. The front still is purposefully misleading -

Apocalypto 03-16-2009 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1627664)
On the back of the label. The front still is purposefully misleading -

First Strike merely means it was packaged for shipment from the U.S. Mint within a month of their official release date. That is the definition. To those who would pay thousands of dollars for a coin without first educating themselves of this fact, one can only say, caveat emptor.

End of Hope 03-16-2009 01:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1627686)
First Strike merely means it was packaged for shipment from the U.S. Mint within a month of their official release date. That is the definition. To those who would pay thousands of dollars for a coin without first educating themselves of this fact, one can only say, caveat emptor.

There is no purpose to use the term "First Strike" except for deceit.

Caveat Emptor is irrelevant when fraud is involved.

Apocalypto 03-16-2009 02:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1627800)
There is no purpose to use the term "First Strike" except for deceit.

Caveat Emptor is irrelevant when fraud is involved.

Dude, you're completely missing the POINT. The term FIRST STRIKE is used exactly as I stated. There is NO FRAUD here. If there were fraud involved, lawsuits would be flying, and they aren't.

Read for yourself:

First Strike Coins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Strike_Coins

End of Hope 03-16-2009 03:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1627838)
Dude, you're completely missing the POINT. The term FIRST STRIKE is used exactly as I stated. There is NO FRAUD here. If there were fraud involved, lawsuits would be flying, and they aren't.

Read for yourself:

First Strike Coins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Strike_Coins

WHY are you defending this shit?

NGC's "Early Release" is not dishonest on its face. "First Strike," to any man of average or better intelligence, would read the phrase "first strike" and assume it meant something meaningful relating to the coin's early production. Not until the sophistry comes into play is that "clarified."

"First Strike" is a marketing trick, and regardless of the "disclaimers" the term is dishonest. Why use it?

HistoryStudent 03-16-2009 09:55 AM

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Funny thing last night; I went on the US Mint shopping page and the "ONLY gold" item or thing you could buy was the UHR Eagle - with a WAIT! No platinum items for sale. No silver proof - only ONE LOWLY uncirculated silver ounce for 38.00 plus shipping - hell of a deal.

Gosh, I wonder, wasn't their MISSION to have precious metal coins available to the public? :favorites21::favorites21::favorites21:Oh well. Boy, let's hope they did not "ALSO" fail their first MISSION to KEEP the GOLD safe :Surrender: in their CUSTODY and CONTROL. We did have the last AUDIT under EISENHOWER in the EARLY 1950s. Like we can trust the FED! :signs14::111::111::111:

1981 03-16-2009 09:56 AM

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Well my card just got hit for the coin!:birthday: Hope to see it soon! I ordered Feb 4th.

diversified2 03-16-2009 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1625281)
Alright! Let's see some pics! :36_1_34:

Okay got it out to take some pics. Asked my husband not to touch it...of course he picked it up and dropped it...we are no longer speaking to each other. :banghead: Will wait for my son to get home...he knows how to handle with care!

rodzm 03-16-2009 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1628155)
Okay got it out to take some pics. Asked my husband not to touch it...of course he picked it up and dropped it...we are no longer speaking to each other. :banghead: Will wait for my son to get home...he knows how to handle with care!


Youre not serious are you, this must be some sick joke

Gordon Gekko 03-16-2009 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1628235)
Youre not serious are you, this must be some sick joke

Probably just some pre-mature April Fools joke.

diversified2 03-16-2009 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1628235)
Youre not serious are you, this must be some sick joke

No joke...he is lucky to still be breathing...he has since apologized. I don't know how to use my sons' camera, I was trying to figure it out when my husband dropped the coin. My son knows that one day he may own some or all of my collection and I have taught him how to handle and care for PMs. I don't think the coin ended up with any damage it was still in the cap. But the caps do not fit snug on the UHR coins =(

EE_ 03-16-2009 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1628258)
No joke...he is lucky to still be breathing...he has since apologized. I don't know how to use my sons' camera, I was trying to figure it out when my husband dropped the coin. My son knows that one day he may own some or all of my collection and I have taught him how to handle and care for PMs. I don't think the coin ended up with any damage it was still in the cap. But the caps do not fit snug on the UHR coins =(

Take it as a lesson when you let non-coin people handle your precious.

Tell hubby to stick to things he's better equipped to handle...like taking out the trash and picking up the dog excrement.

I think you should forgive hubby quickly and never let him touch precious again!...uh, I'm talking about the coin, not "that" precious. :wink:

HistoryStudent 03-16-2009 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1628311)
Take it as a lesson when you let non-coin people handle your precious.

Tell hubby to stick to things he's better equipped to handle...like taking out the trash and picking up the dog excrement.

I think you should forgive hubby quickly and never let him touch precious again!...uh, I'm talking about the coin, not "that" precious. :wink:

Now that's from a "TRUE COIN NUMISMATICIST PERSON" - be careful or you'll cause a divorce over the UHR. Cut the fellow a little slack. Gosh, some of us (and I'm looking in the MIRROR) are a tad clumsy - like JAR JAR BINKS.

:yes::111::111:

In that vain from another site:

Do people not understand just how bad these new practices by the grading services are? The same companies that are assisting in determining the value of coins by authenticating them and placing a degree of preservation on them are now also in the business of creating value in these same coins. That’s a bad precedent that does not bode well for the numismatic community. These new practices by PCGS and NGC sure sound like a conflict of interest to me.

A 1907 UHR graded MS-63 by PCGS is valued at about $26,000. If it’s taken out of its tomb (slab), it’s theoretically still worth the same amount of money. It’s the same coin in the same state of preservation with the same mintage. Re-grade it and it might actually come back worth more as the result of a higher grade. Take a first strike coin out of its tomb and it’s worth the same thing as all its siblings – its “true” value. In this case the extra value was in the piece of plastic surrounding the coin. Not in the coin itself.

If the Mint released a press statement saying they intentionally delayed shipping some of the coins just to thwart the FS and ER practices, I’d probably say “way to go Mint!!!”. I might give them some brownie points for that. If enough consternation is PLACED maybe the MINT will adjust the way they ship to avoid the problems.

diversified2 03-16-2009 09:22 PM

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Safe in its box....not a very good pic....coin is too reflective! Son wanted to know why I let his Dad near it =)....Jar Jar LOL

Gordon Gekko 03-16-2009 11:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1629258)
Safe in its box....not a very good pic....coin is too reflective! Son wanted to know why I let his Dad near it =)....Jar Jar LOL

Looks absolutely beautiful!! Seeing such beauty kinda makes me regret sending it in for grading! I miss that little guy.


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ng1469 03-16-2009 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1629258)
Safe in its box....not a very good pic....coin is too reflective! Son wanted to know why I let his Dad near it =)....Jar Jar LOL

Gotta use a photo box to get rid of the glare. An overhead light like that will make everything shine! I built a makeshift one out of a box i got a delivery in and a white sheet. Works ok for now

diversified2 03-17-2009 09:03 AM

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NG I had my son take the pic before I went to work...I work MNs...I don't plan to make a hobby of taking coin pics LOL. I think plain daylight without the flash might have been better....GG did you use macro mode to take your pics? I have just found the manual for the camera... I had the coin out this morning and told my husband "Get back!" He said, "I am going outside right now!!!" :cry1:LMAO Hee Hee, Macro mode I figured out the controls...now I need to recharge battery and I am good to go!!!

aclarky 03-17-2009 11:05 AM

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I received mine yesterday. It's really impressive to me but my wife said "why is this one so special? It looks just like the others." I think the packaging is a little ridiculous. No wonder this thing cost so much. They could have made the box 1/4 the size. It takes up a lot of space in the safe for only one ounce. I'm gonna take it outside in the light to really appreciate it today. This one is a keeper. I won't take it out of its casing and I don't believe in grading modern coins. Well worth the wait.

:emotions16:

diversified2 03-17-2009 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aclarky (Post 1630241)
I received mine yesterday. It's really impressive to me but my wife said "why is this one so special? It looks just like the others." I think the packaging is a little ridiculous. No wonder this thing cost so much. They could have made the box 1/4 the size. It takes up a lot of space in the safe for only one ounce. I'm gonna take it outside in the light to really appreciate it today. This one is a keeper. I won't take it out of its casing and I don't believe in grading modern coins. Well worth the wait.

:emotions16:

Just check out the prices on ebay....we got it cheap!!!!!

HistoryStudent 03-17-2009 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1630252)
Just check out the prices on ebay....we got it cheap!!!!!

You made me chuckle. :haha:

In a nearby thread I see that a few years back the Canada Mint made just 700 of one of their platinum bullion coins - Imagine if that type of thing were to happen all of a sudden to the UHR Eagles - say in the next few months they JUST cut off sales at 60,000. So instead of one year of UHR Eagles we have a few months minting/manufacturing - for whatever reason gold prices, blanks, production problems, die problems, total stopping of gold sales by mint (now that isn't too hard to believe take a look at the current site), they don't want to make J6P rich, or SSUV either, a short squeeze on gold, and perhaps something else I don't have off the top of ole flat top.

Then - and REALLY then the folks that sold their Brand New smackin' UHR Eagles will be CHAGRINED and start buying them back at many times the cost.

These are funny type numismatic coins. I know they are technically bullion - but that kinda got BLOWN off with the rationing equasion thrown in by the US Mint Boyz. REMEMBER The ORIGINALS (bigger and much rarer - OF COURSE - sell for way more than their NUMERICAL number of survivers indicate. In other words there is a HUGE premium for the ULTRA HIGH and HIGH relief varities. I just decided to get a few more. By the way; you can order now and they say they'll ship this month!

Now that a TOUT to the wise with great upside potential. Hell, I'd order MUCHO right now IF I COULD.The historical ryme is that these can easily become a classic like a 1965 Mustang (don't you wish... or a 1953 Corvette owned by ELVIS) now I'm really pulling your leg. But you might get the picture. When you are ACTUALLY living history you fail to see the future. That's why the current premium is already about 100% on the EBAY rip-offs.



banchabanchabanchabanchabancha:banana::banana::yes :

rodzm 03-17-2009 06:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Something weir just happened to my credit card charge. It was originally under Temporary Authorizations but now it is not showing as being posted nor is it showing as a Temporary Authorization but yet my credit limit reflects the amount deducted since the limit is lower.

Anybody have this happened to before

shortstack 03-17-2009 09:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1606377)
This morning I noticed footprints left by the delivery guy yesterday - I guess I left the coin out all last night...

Well, I received an e-mail from PCGS, and my coin came back with a MS70. I paid an extra 20 bucks for the first strike designation, and an extra 35 bucks for expedited grading.

PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 1420xxxx 407xx 2009 $20 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle US MS70
Total Items: 1
Date Received: 3/12/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

HistoryStudent 03-17-2009 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1631201)
Well, I received an e-mail from PCGS, and my coin came back with a MS70. I paid an extra 20 bucks for the first strike designation, and an extra 35 bucks for expedited grading.

PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 1420xxxx 407xx 2009 $20 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle US MS70
Total Items: 1
Date Received: 3/12/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

Congratulations - KEEP that puppy like they did in the

KENT FAMILY book series -

Forever! :23_1_22:

EE_ 03-17-2009 10:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1631238)
Congratulations - KEEP that puppy like they did in the

KENT FAMILY book series -

Forever! :23_1_22:

I agree, keep those FS 70's!
The way the mint is discontinuing gold coins these days, this one could be next.
If they don't, the coin could go down a few hunderd bucks.
If they do, the coin could go up a few thousand.
Congrats!

HistoryStudent 03-18-2009 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1631294)
I agree, keep those FS 70's!
The way the mint is discontinuing gold coins these days, this one could be next.If they don't, the coin could go down a few hunderd bucks.
If they do, the coin could go up a few thousand.
Congrats!

Wisdom and vision beyond your years.
I went on the US Mint site only gold coin was the UHR with the LOUSE SPOUSE; NO platinum coins period NADA; no proof silver coin - only one MS silver ounce.

3 coins there used to be

10 gold
8 platinum
2 silver

3 out of 20 "can't be good for the future, right?"



Really sad to report. Their mission was to provide the PM coins. I only hope their other mission to HOLD the U.S. PEOPLE'S Gold in trust is in tact. And not way off in the BOWELS of the DEEP EARTH as they reported in the US Secretary of Treasury notice when the last one BUGGERED off.

:signs14::wink:

mamboni 03-18-2009 12:02 AM

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Mine just arrived this evening: pretty little coin in a very big wooden box case - ostentacious? Definitely overkill. When I showed my wife the coin she responded with a tired yawn. I then dutifully responded with my standard refrain whenever a shipment of gold or silver has arrived: "Honey, some day you'll thank me.":111::111::111:

mick silver 03-18-2009 12:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mamboni (Post 1631439)
Mine just arrived this evening: pretty little coin in a very big wooden box case - ostentacious? Definitely overkill. When I showed my wife the coin she responded with a tired yawn. I then dutifully responded with my standard refrain whenever a shipment of gold or silver has arrived: "Honey, some day you'll thank me.":111::111::111:

dam that sound like me talking to my wife ..... lol

Apocalypto 03-18-2009 12:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1631450)
dam that sound like me talking to my wife ..... lol

Mine, too. Sometimes she thinks I'm crazy. Too much metal around. :s1:

HistoryStudent 03-18-2009 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1631478)
Mine, too. Sometimes she thinks I'm crazy. Too much metal around. :s1:

It took me ten years - but now with:

Homes DOWN :36_1_63:

Commercial DOWN :36_1_63:

Bonds DOWN :36_1_63:

US dollar TRIPLED :36_1_63:

Stocks DOWN :36_1_63:

(paper in TOILET trashed and going to get worse)

It's like that OLD movie:

"NO WAY OUT!" :yes:

Besides going up about 4 times didn't hurt EITHER - only thing on the silly planet that did!

Her's the latest from WEISS today:
banchabanchabanchabancha


Gold's About to Burst Out of Its Recent Range
by Sean Brodrick
Dear Steven,


My friend Kevin just regaled me with a story about his trip to the mall � a guy was there handing out plastic bags for people to use to turn in their gold for cash. "Holy cow!" Kevin said. "It was like a mobile pawn shop."

Kevin resisted the urge to run home, find his gold and sell it to the plastic-bagger at the mall. You see, Kevin is a smart cookie and knows a thing or two about gold. He's a buyer, not a seller, of gold coins.

Gold is approaching an inflection point that could be good for gold owners, like Kevin. And it could be good for gold traders, too! I want to tell you about that today.

And while I'm at it, I'm going to give you tips on how to sell your gold � if that's still what you want to do.

But first, why ...

Gold is About to Break Out
Of Its Recent Range

Let's look at a chart of gold as tracked by the world's largest gold-backed exchange-traded fund, the SPDR Gold Trust (GLD) ...



This daily chart shows that gold has been in an intermediate uptrend since November. But it peaked out last month and went into a short-term downtrend. The GLD is now below its 20-day moving average, which is a quick-and-dirty dividing line that can tell you if the trend is up or down.

Now we need to wait and see which way gold goes ...

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Of course, if gold does drop lower, you might simply consider that a chance to buy gold on the cheap.

Why is that? First, I have to give you some background ...

Gold Collectors, Investors, and
Speculators Buying Like Crazy ...


The U.S. Mint has stopped producing its 2009 American Gold Eagle proof and uncirculated coin for collectors.
Last week, the United States Mint officially announced the suspension of another slate of gold and silver products. The mint is suspending its 2009 American Gold and Silver Eagle proof and uncirculated coins produced for collectors. These collectible versions of the bullion coins represent a sizeable amount of precious metal sales to individuals.

The Mint is still making gold bullion coins, but quantities are limited.

And no wonder: The U.S. Mint sold four times as many American Gold Eagle coins in January 2009 as it did in the same month a year ago. This is following the trend established last year when sales of the Mint's one-ounce American Eagle gold bullion coins rocketed to 710,000 ounces, up from 140,000 ounces a year before!

And it's not just the U.S. Mint that has seen gold coin sales soar ...

The Royal Canadian Mint, which produces Maple Leaf bullion coins, said it quadrupled its production capacity late last year as demand for gold and silver bullion products shot up.

Recently we saw the holdings of GLD, hit a record 1,056 metric tonnes on March 15. That's more than the gold held by the Swiss government! And other ETFs around the world are adding to their holdings as well.

Take a look at this one-year chart from Sharelynx.com ...



This chart shows that the rise in ETF holdings of gold has been extraordinary in just one year � from 38 million ounces of gold to 60 million ounces of gold.

So why does this translate into a tremendous opportunity for you to buy gold?

Well, you have to remember that a big chunk of the money in gold-based ETFs is speculative money. Investors are using these funds to ride the rise in gold prices. If gold and the ETFs break their uptrends, we'll probably see speculators sell their holdings, which should drive the price of gold down rather quickly. And that, in turn, should push down the price of the American Gold Eagles that are on the market.

So if you've been looking for an opportunity to pick up American Gold Eagle coins on the cheap, this could be your best chance for years to come.

A pullback on gold prices to between $850 and $800 an ounce would not surprise me. Remember though, dealers are getting hefty premiums on bullion right now, so you'll have to figure that in your cost. Plus, if you're buying from a Web site, you'll have to add mailing costs.

So, would a break of this uptrend in gold prices worry me? Not much. I believe that a pullback is fine � a normal and necessary part of any bull market.

Take a look at this monthly chart of gold prices ...



You can see that gold has a long way to go before testing its longer-term uptrends.

And if gold bounces and heads higher from here, you can pile in to the gold ETFs. Either way, you can win! Subscribers to my Red-Hot Commodity ETFs service are out of gold now. But I'll be sending them a flash alert the moment I see a breakout up or down.

Now, if You Still Want
To Sell Your Physical Gold ...

A friend of mine in the business can't keep Gold Eagles in stock. But he has plenty of inherited jewelry that's being turned in all the time, having outlived the lifespan of anyone who ever thought it was pretty.


Before you trade your gold jewelry for cash, there are three pointers you should follow.
And here are three pointers he told me that gold sellers need to know ...

#1) The price you get varies widely.

* Independent buyers who sell directly to a refinery can pay the most � up to 70 percent of the melt (spot) price of gold.

Gold dealers will pay you about 50 percent of the melt price.

* Pawn shops will pay you the next level � a good one will pay 40 percent to 50 percent of the melt price.

In my experience, the firms that advertise on TV will pay you the least. The average is about 33 percent, or 33 cents on the dollar. I've even heard of people getting as little as 10 cents on the dollar!

And I'd wager that the guys who hand you a plastic bag in the mall and offer to buy your gold probably pay about the same as the TV pitchmen.

#2) You should know exactly how much gold you have. Some companies don't even tell you how they based the amount they give you! And if you don't know the weight, you have no idea what kind of a deal you're getting. But it's hard for people to know exactly how much gold they have since most gold jewelry is not 24 karat (pure) gold. That's because pure gold scratches and dents easily and is more expensive, so jewelers combine it with other metals.

For example, if you know you have 18 karat gold, that's 75 percent pure gold. If your 18 karat gold necklace weighs one ounce, and gold is trading at $900 an ounce, that's $900 x .75 or $675 worth of gold at the melt price. If someone says they're giving you 70 percent of the melt price, they should pay you $675 x .70 = $472.50.

The lesson here: Bring your own calculator and do your own math. If you have the time, have your gold jewelry appraised at more than one place and write down which pieces are 18 karat, 22 karat, 14 karat, etc, and their weights.

And when it comes to weights, here's something else you should understand: Gold is measured in troy ounces � 12 troy ounces to a troy pound. If you go to a jeweler, he might use pennyweights. There are 20 pennyweights in a troy ounce.

There are also 31.1 grams in an ounce of gold. Notice this is different from the grams you use in food. So if you have a food scale at home, it probably uses 28 grams per ounce.

It can be a bit confusing if you're not used to the system. So, it's best to have your gold weighed by a trusted source.

#3) Sell when prices are going up. You're likely to get the best deal from a buyer if he thinks he can sell your gold at a higher price.

These three simple tips should help you get the best price for your gold jewelry. But as far as investing goes, my suggestion is to be a buyer on pullbacks. And when it comes to trading, you can go long or short, since there's money to be made on either side.

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Sean

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rodzm 03-18-2009 03:53 PM

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Ok now Im totally confused. Up until a few days ago the mint placed a temporary hold on my account and now it is totally gone, not even a decreased credit line like it was showing a couple of days ago. Now Im worried if I will even get it since the temporary hold totally disappeared.

Has this hapenned to anybody, Im wondering if they will cancel my order altogether. Usually temporary holds go to a posted charge after a few days.

Im confused

Manager Mr 03-18-2009 04:25 PM

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WOOT!!! just got a ship conf. on my other order 308484xx. :565::10_1_20::36_1_34::9536:bancha:5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-18-2009 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1632698)
WOOT!!! just got a ship conf. on my other order 308484xx. :565::10_1_20::36_1_34::9536:bancha:5_1_120:

I've got hundreds of coins - but THAT one you are getting is a LIFETIME KEEPER. :4_8_4v:

1981 03-18-2009 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1632617)
Ok now Im totally confused. Up until a few days ago the mint placed a temporary hold on my account and now it is totally gone, not even a decreased credit line like it was showing a couple of days ago. Now Im worried if I will even get it since the temporary hold totally disappeared.

Has this hapenned to anybody, Im wondering if they will cancel my order altogether. Usually temporary holds go to a posted charge after a few days.

Im confused

I've seen a few posts about this here and on kitco. They seem to run the gamut from reposting immediately to never coming back up. Not sure what to tell you, but mine is still a pending charge on my Debit Card for the last three days and has never gone to permanent.

1981 03-18-2009 05:36 PM

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Also, something else that changed was that the charge was listed as basically some gibberish initially, but now says "US MINT COIN SALES-DR WASHINGTON 01" as of today. Not sure if it's significant or not.

smyles 03-18-2009 05:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My frustration builds as the saga continues. Still no coin. So I go through the trouble of creating an account on US Mint in hopes of tracking the order. But alas, the mint says I have no order (even though I received shipping email on 3/12). So I call and the automated service says my order is still being processed. WT... So I wait the long wait to talk to Audrey who tells me that UPS has the coin but can't say when I'll receive it. I tell her just how frustrating this whole affair is getting and she's silent. I ask her if she has been getting yelled at so much that she is immune to complaints and she says yes, pretty much.

So I finally yank a tracking number from her and UPS shows this:

Tracking Number: xx xxx xxx xx xxxx xxx x
Type: Package
Status:
Billing Information Received
UPS has received the electronic transmission of shipment detail from the shipper and a label has been created for your shipment. Once UPS has possession of this shipment, the tracking status will be updated.

What should I do?
No action is required at this time. This is the most up-to-date information about the status of your shipment. Check Tracking periodically for shipment progress updates. If you don't see your shipment status change, you may choose to contact the sender to confirm that they have given the shipment to UPS.
Billing Information Received
Shipped To: xxxxxxx
Shipped/Billed On: 03/12/2009
Service: NEXT DAY AIR
Special Instructions: SIGNATURE REQUIRED
Weight: 2.50 Lbs

So here it is 5 days past the shipping date on a next day air item and who really knows where the thing is. UPS says they consider it lost and I have to call the mint back and request a tracer put on it. What a terrible first time experience with the mint. I'm ready to pull my hair out and ship to them next day air. Gee, I sure am glad I rushed to order on Jan. 22. The US mint epitomizes the utter incompetence of government agencies. I should have known better than to deal with them.

smyles 03-18-2009 06:14 PM

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Update:

Rachael at the US mint tells me that they don't need to put a tracer on the coin. The problem, she explained, is that I choose a gift wrap for the item, which I did not. She admitted that the coin has not shipped and they are having problems with "gift wrapping".

She said it's an easy fix. She just needs to remove the gift wrap request and refund $5.95 to me and now they can ship it. But she doesn't know when. I'm in the twilight zone no doubt.

HistoryStudent 03-18-2009 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1633000)
Update:

Rachael at the US mint tells me that they don't need to put a tracer on the coin. The problem, she explained, is that I choose a gift wrap for the item, which I did not. She admitted that the coin has not shipped and they are having problems with "gift wrapping".

She said it's an easy fix. She just needs to remove the gift wrap request and refund $5.95 to me and now they can ship it. But she doesn't know when. I'm in the twilight zone no doubt.

YEP - Catch 22 Gift Wrap if you can from the MINT. Remind me NOT to confuse CIVIL SERPENTS because they bite back.
:111::111:

Matt-themaddog-Dollar 03-19-2009 02:08 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
On Ebay the MS 69's are selling for less than regular UHRs in the US Mint packaging:

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__ultra-h...Q_sopZ1QQ_scZ1

diversified2 03-19-2009 09:29 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Okay...just had to try...I ordered another one =). Maybe I'll get really lucky and I will get it. Nothing to lose :banana:

C&L 1911 03-19-2009 09:29 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-themaddog-Dollar (Post 1633698)
On Ebay the MS 69's are selling for less than regular UHRs in the US Mint packaging:

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__ultra-h...Q_sopZ1QQ_scZ1

Those are all active auctions with average bids of $1500+ and hours before closing, so they are hardly an indicator of the coin's going rate. Completed listings, however, show the lowest winning bid of $1550 for ungraded coin, and majority of the auctions ended with $1650+ bids. Graded coins closed even higher.

1981 03-19-2009 08:26 PM

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Still don't have mine. Thought posting that here would make me feel better. Nope. Did you see that the mint has put back up their 5/24 ship date for new orders but taken down their 6-9 month wait warning? What's up with that? I was also wondering if the books are on hold so that the Mint can add a chapter about how after hyping the thing for a year they fell flat on their face and couldn't ship for months even though they had 29,000 ready to go day one. :508:

I'm now hoping to have mine before we get to post #1000 on this thread.

C&L 1911 03-19-2009 08:40 PM

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1981,
I ordered the Prosperity Set on the same date you ordered your UHR, and it finally shipped today (it's already in UPS's system and moving). I don't know if it makes you feel any better, but maybe they shipped a bunch of other orders today, too.

:23_1_22:

My own UHR, on the other hand, has been returned to the US Mint and the replacement has shown up in my on-line account, with "In stock and reserved" status. And so the wait continues... I also need to get my $30 shipping reimbursement from them now, and it looks like it will be a hassle, too. :rant:

1981 03-19-2009 08:58 PM

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Thanks C&L 1911. I hope they get you a nice one this time. :23_1_22:

diversified2 03-19-2009 09:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Per EE start #30826000 my 2nd order is #31407XXX... Wowzer that makes it 581,000+ orders!!!!!!!!!:36_1_32v: Hoping I get lucky and my karma is due for a change:36_1_32v:

HistoryStudent 03-19-2009 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1635465)
1981,
I ordered the Prosperity Set on the same date you ordered your UHR, and it finally shipped today (it's already in UPS's system and moving). I don't know if it makes you feel any better, but maybe they shipped a bunch of other orders today, too.

:23_1_22:

My own UHR, on the other hand, has been returned to the US Mint and the replacement has shown up in my on-line account, with "In stock and reserved" status. And so the wait continues... I also need to get my $30 shipping reimbursement from them now, and it looks like it will be a hassle, too. :rant:

You are so LUCKY I tried to order a few more of those 2008 Prosperity Sets - (they are really nice and the end of the buffs and probably the eagles too) -and the MINT is out of just about everything gold and platinum - and ONE stinkin' lonely silver MS coin for 40 plus bucks shipped.

Congrats - mate,

HS:5_1_120:


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C&L 1911 03-19-2009 09:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1635516)
You are so LUCKY I tried to order a few more of those 2008 Prosperity Sets - (they are really nice and the end of the buffs and probably the eagles too) -and the MINT is out of just about everything gold and platinum - and ONE stinkin' lonely silver MS coin for 40 plus bucks shipped.

Congrats - mate,

HS:5_1_120:

Yeah, I'm kicking myself for not ordering more than 1 set. At the time I felt the set was overpriced, but then the prices on fractionals started climbing like crazy (especially the Buffs), so I thought what the heck and ordered one. Looking back now, that price looks like a steal.

mick silver 03-19-2009 09:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I KEEP the box mine came in , would that make the price higher ? an how long before the book comes out ?

C&L 1911 03-19-2009 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1635514)
Per EE start #30826000 my 2nd order is #31407XXX... Wowzer that makes it 581,000+ orders!!!!!!!!!:36_1_32v: Hoping I get lucky and my karma is due for a change:36_1_32v:

Keep in mind that not all of those orders were for UHRs.

mick silver 03-19-2009 09:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
how many are they minting of the coin? i thought it was 500.000

C&L 1911 03-19-2009 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1635538)
how many are they minting of the coin?

No one knows for sure. I had several conversations with US Mint's CS reps (and a few supervisors), and they all assured me that production will continue through December of this year. But then again, I wouldn't put too much trust in what they say... :no_ma:

diversified2 03-19-2009 09:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1635538)
how many are they minting of the coin? i thought it was 500.000

Oh No! I'll be sol then =(

HistoryStudent 03-19-2009 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1635548)
No one knows for sure. I had several conversations with US Mint's CS reps (and a few supervisors), and they all assured me that production will continue through December of this year. But then again, I wouldn't put too much trust in what they say... :no_ma:

Nah, you are being TOO judgmental, just because they stopped every other gold coin (except the Lousy Spousy) and every other platinum coin under their absolute mission to produce - WHY would you even slightly suspect they'll ever stop making the BASTION of FREEDOM GOLD COIN of the CENTURY -THE wonderful UHR Eagle? Why?

:111::111::111::111::111::111::111:

Workaholic 03-19-2009 10:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Received notification my UHRC shipped on the 17th, I hope to see it in my PO box tomorrow...

HistoryStudent 03-19-2009 10:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1635554)
Oh No! I'll be sol then =(

I've got a Bridge In Brooklyn built in the late 1800s I like to sell you if you believe they'll make 500,000 UHR Eagles.

They do get 500 coins per DIE!

:111::111::111:

HistoryStudent 03-19-2009 10:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1635747)
Received notification my UHRC shipped on the 17th, I hope to see it in my PO box tomorrow...

TREASURE that ONE - keep it close, dear, and quiet.

:36_1_32v::yes:

Buyingsilvers 03-20-2009 01:37 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
We shipped the items listed below today.
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Order #: 309XXXX- 1 Order Date: 2/08/09

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Horray! :36_1_34::5_1_120::shine::elefant:

prophet 03-20-2009 01:57 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1635976)
We shipped the items listed below today.
Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online
Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon.
Registered users may track their order at www.usmint.gov/
catalog and guest users with inquiries about their order
should call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). If you have questions
about returns or cancellations, please visit www.usmint.gov/
catalog.

Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint.
Electronic gift certificates are now available!

Order #: 309XXXX- 1 Order Date: 2/08/09

Sold To: XXXXXXXXXX

Ship To: XXXXXXXX

Date Shipped: 3/19/09

Amount Charged : XXXXXXXX

Tracking ID

XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX

Items included in this shipment:


1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1



Horray! :36_1_34::5_1_120::shine::elefant:


Wish i had one of these...... :s15:

smyles 03-20-2009 02:41 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well if you do order one, make sure you request gift wrapping. That way you should get it in about three years when it's worth a lot more.:sarc:

Buyingsilvers 03-20-2009 02:43 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
trade for one of your kangaroos? haha :banana::banana::banana:

diversified2 03-20-2009 09:10 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1636049)
trade for one of your kangaroos? haha :banana::banana::banana:

Okay which year Kangaroo?:111:

diversified2 03-20-2009 09:13 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1635754)
I've got a Bridge In Brooklyn built in the late 1800s I like to sell you if you believe they'll make 500,000 UHR Eagles.

They do get 500 coins per DIE!

:111::111::111:

Hey don't rain on my parade...:36_3_12:

1981 03-20-2009 09:38 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
We shipped the items listed below today.
Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint Online
Catalog; we hope you'll visit again soon.
Registered users may track their order at www.usmint.gov/
catalog and guest users with inquiries about their order
should call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). If you have questions
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Thanks again for shopping with the U.S. Mint.
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Order #: 3093XXXX - 1 Order Date: 2/04/09

Sold To: 1981

Ship To: 1981

Date Shipped: 3/19/09

Amount Charged : 1243.95

Tracking ID

....................

Items included in this shipment:


1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1




:yippee::yippee::yippee::signs1::banana: :23_28_100s: :23_30_104::marchmell

diversified2 03-20-2009 09:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1636322)
:yippee::yippee::yippee::signs1::banana: :23_28_100s: :23_30_104::marchmell

Congrats they shipped it before post #1000!!!! You're going to be very pleased with it!!!

1981 03-20-2009 09:59 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636328)
Congrats they shipped it before post #1000!!!! You're going to be very pleased with it!!!

I know, I'm so glad. I was about to have trouble because I'm moving in a few weeks for a new job and I wasn't sure what changing my address would do!

diversified2 03-20-2009 11:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1635754)
I've got a Bridge In Brooklyn built in the late 1800s I like to sell you if you believe they'll make 500,000 UHR Eagles.

They do get 500 coins per DIE!

:111::111::111:

Well they must have had a die left in decent enough shape because they just charged my card for the UHR :moon: Looks like my Karma is all better now!!!!

1981 03-20-2009 11:14 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636469)
Well they must have had a die left in decent enough shape because they just charged my card for the UHR

Is that you're second order that you're getting charged for, or the first?

diversified2 03-20-2009 11:57 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1636480)
Is that you're second order that you're getting charged for, or the first?

2nd...got the 1st one on friday march 13th...I checked with my CC and it is definately my 2nd order. I figure the mint owes me for not shipping mine before 3/11/09....I ordered within 20 minutes from the time they started taking orders on January 22!!!!

HistoryStudent 03-20-2009 12:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636469)
Well they must have had a die left in decent enough shape because they just charged my card for the UHR :moon: Looks like my Karma is all better now!!!!

Raining on the parade NOPE; karma GREAT; if they stop making those things your karma would PROBABLY improve 10,000 percent - :5_1_120:

Imagine if only 30 to 50 thousand are made. :565:bancha:banana::getdown:

you'd be dancing in the streets with JAR - JAR. :111:

rodzm 03-20-2009 12:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Damn mint...I ordered mine on February 13th and nothing, the temp hold is gone and no sign of anything but the mint's site says in stock and reserved. Geez what gives...hell I hpe they send me one and never charge me for it

Order 3099xxxx

diversified2 03-20-2009 12:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1636649)
Raining on the parade NOPE; karma GREAT; if they stop making those things your karma would PROBABLY improve 10,000 percent - :5_1_120:

Imagine if only 30 to 50 thousand are made. :565:bancha:banana::getdown:

you'd be dancing in the streets with JAR - JAR. :111:

Now you're making fun of my hubby!!! I don't think he will ever touch another coin again. He was very sorry about the whole thing and knew how frustrated I was with the mint for sending it late. Yup, they can stop minting them and retire the dies as soon as I get #2. I will send one for grading and keep one as mint set. Wish me luck...I missed out on the double properity set...I could use a little luck right now:wink:

diversified2 03-20-2009 01:00 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1636667)
Damn mint...I ordered mine on February 13th and nothing, the temp hold is gone and no sign of anything but the mint's site says in stock and reserved. Geez what gives...hell I hpe they send me one and never charge me for it

Order 3099xxxx

The Mint is so screwed up...Honestly if this was a private company they would already be out of business.

rodzm 03-20-2009 02:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636676)
Now you're making fun of my hubby!!! I don't think he will ever touch another coin again. He was very sorry about the whole thing and knew how frustrated I was with the mint for sending it late. Yup, they can stop minting them and retire the dies as soon as I get #2. I will send one for grading and keep one as mint set. Wish me luck...I missed out on the double properity set...I could use a little luck right now:wink:

You mean he will never touch the precious????

Sorry I had to say that :s1:

HistoryStudent 03-20-2009 03:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636676)
Now you're making fun of my hubby!!! I don't think he will ever touch another coin again. He was very sorry about the whole thing and knew how frustrated I was with the mint for sending it late. Yup, they can stop minting them and retire the dies as soon as I get #2. I will send one for grading and keep one as mint set. Wish me luck...I missed out on the double properity set...I could use a little luck right now:wink:

Hey, we're in the same BOAT. I ordered another last week they should ship IT :Surrender: by the end of the month. Perhaps they "are getting their act together" the Three Stooges running the presses, with Earnest Goes To The Mint as supervisor, the Marx Brothers as shippers, And the Keystone Kops acting as security we were lucky to even get the first ONE.

:111::111::111::111::111:

HistoryStudent 03-20-2009 03:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1636853)
You mean he will never touch the precious????

Sorry I had to say that :s1:

The LORD of The RINGS, right? The funny little guy that's a tad skinney and whithered? "MY PRECIOUS?" :signs14::aetsch::haha::thinkey:

rodzm 03-20-2009 03:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Ok the mint mustve read my complaints because I just checked the website and it says it was shipped today buuuuuuuut...being that Im stationed overseas and my mail gets taken over by the military after arriving in NY it wont get here for another month. Every other mint item istaken over 1 month to get to me. The 2009 territories proof set took 5 weeks to get to me

Best thing yet is that they havent charged me yet...hopefully they will mess up and wont charge


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Buyingsilvers 03-20-2009 03:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1636667)
Damn mint...I ordered mine on February 13th and nothing, the temp hold is gone and no sign of anything but the mint's site says in stock and reserved. Geez what gives...hell I hpe they send me one and never charge me for it

Order 3099xxxx

yours is probably coming soon. Just hope they dont play air hockey with your coin before shipping it out.

If they do, you could always have it graded by ANACS. They'll designate it MS70 FSB - Full Skid-mark Bands :confused_m:

diversified2 03-20-2009 03:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1636853)
You mean he will never touch the precious????

Sorry I had to say that :s1:

If he wants to touch that precious he will keep his hands off MY PRECIOUS:4_1_72::s1:

1981 03-20-2009 03:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Well I finally got my little white box. :bear_w00t: Mine has some minor imperfections on the top edge of the rim, so no MS 70 for me.:bawling: Ah well, I might have it graded, I can't decide. Since MS-70 and First Strike are out, I will probably go with the cheapest of the top three services. Slabbed coins sell for more on E-bay. I might get another one later, but it really looks like the mint is getting their act together, and my hopes of a suspension are fading. Has anybody heard what dealer's are offering for these? If the shipping has worked out, then the one per household limit seems to be the only thing keeping these scarce.

Buyingsilvers 03-20-2009 03:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
List of recent auctions that are not 1st strike eligible, not graded. Seems like ebay prices are around $1600-$1650. I've seen multiple auctions asking for $1700 with no takers. If you want to flip the coin on ebay, you should probably do it ASAP, as it seems like the mint just shipped out a bunch of coins.


Best offer
$1,650.00
Free Mar-20 12:33

Bids 4
$1,585.99
Free

BIN
$1,675.00

Bids 5
$1,575.00
$25.00
$25.00

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$1,588.88

Bids 5
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1981 03-20-2009 03:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636542)
2nd...got the 1st one on friday march 13th...I checked with my CC and it is definately my 2nd order. I figure the mint owes me for not shipping mine before 3/11/09....I ordered within 20 minutes from the time they started taking orders on January 22!!!!

Wow, you only ordered a few days ago and they are already charging you for your second order, which means it should ship soon. If they are shipping second orders a few days after initialization then surely the shortage must be over? I noticed the 6-9 month wait language is gone as well.

HistoryStudent 03-20-2009 05:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1635531)
Yeah, I'm kicking myself for not ordering more than 1 set. At the time I felt the set was overpriced, but then the prices on fractionals started climbing like crazy (especially the Buffs), so I thought what the heck and ordered one. Looking back now, that price looks like a steal.

:10_1_19::10_1_19::10_1_19::111::504::508::congrat s::pissedoff:

You are KICKING yourself, heck, I went ON the US GIVE-A-MINT to everyone else and TRIED to find JUST a few Uncirculated or Proof regular Eagles in GOLD or Platinum - and there are NADA ZERO ZIP NOTHING BYE-BYE my guess is that the BANKSTERS and AIG took their BONUSES in gold and platinum. THIS IS A BLOODY ROTTEN STINKING LOUSY NO-GOOD SHAME on them.

HistoryStudent 03-20-2009 05:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1636932)
If he wants to touch that precious he will keep his hands off MY PRECIOUS:4_1_72::s1:

Be nice... tell him ole History says quote,"spread a peanut butter sandwich with HIS (paw) fingers and then take out the BEAUTIFUL UHR Eagle and separate the plastic to actually FEEL the coin for the peanut butter will help make the COIN STICK to his fingers and YOU won't have to worry about it again!" :Surrender::aetsch::haha::haha::23_30_104::thinkey : (That's really bad - I'm sorry - the Devil made me DO IT!)

Buyingsilvers 03-20-2009 08:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
ok, so I finally got my coin.

does your coins have what looks like seams on the rim every 1/3 of the coin or so? Basically where it says e pluribus unum. The seams Im looking at are not on the capsule, and are on the actual coin. Im guessing from the "collar" they use to print on the rim.

1981 03-21-2009 11:16 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Yeah, those collar marks are supposed to be there. I don't like them personally. I also agree that the mint appears to have got their act together, so if you want to flip the coin you had better hurry or you'll have to wait for the mint to stop making them before the price will go up again.

smyles 03-21-2009 07:47 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
If the mint had their act together I would have a coin by now. I ordered the first day, they've had my money since March 12. Still no coin. And they could give a rip.:banghead:

rodzm 03-21-2009 08:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1638796)
If the mint had their act together I would have a coin by now. I ordered the first day, they've had my money since March 12. Still no coin. And they could give a rip.:banghead:

Damn has the coin even shipped yet???

Buyingsilvers 03-21-2009 08:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1638796)
If the mint had their act together I would have a coin by now. I ordered the first day, they've had my money since March 12. Still no coin. And they could give a rip.:banghead:

wow...

I'd be pissed. You should have had a first strike eligible coin. The mint is shipping out to people who ordered in february already. I'd give them a call.

smyles 03-21-2009 09:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Oh I've been calling. About four times now. I have several posts in this thread about the ordeal, so i won't waste forum space recapping.

Let's just say, they certainly don't have their act together.

HistoryStudent 03-22-2009 02:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Don't worry I'm starting an unscientific study of prices on EBAY. And the UHR in all facits (First strike - MS70 - MS69 - in shipping box - opened shipping box etc.) are all falling in price.

It's kinda LIKE the Stock Market BUY on the RUMOR and SELL LOWER on the NEWS!

Flames dart bullets NOT at the messenger PLEASE but if you want - no problem - I'm waiting to buy for the LONG TERM and soon the PRICES will tumble as the GREEDY get scared they'll lose their PROFITS in the sick heads!

:signs14::5_1_120::5_1_120::111::yes:



1981 03-23-2009 09:15 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Maybe the prices are dropping because people are actually looking at their coins. I pulled mine out of the capsule to get a better look at the edge, and it looks pretty bad. First off, the capsule wasn't pressed down all the way, so the coin rattled around in the holder and now has a thin "zone" where the rim scratched. The top of the rim on the reverse is also jagged and uneven. Since the face of the coin on both sides is okay I won't be sending it back (I'm done with the mint) but not what I would call the pinnacle of modern coin art IMHO.

smyles 03-23-2009 02:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Finally, I received the coin today. And it was still in it's plastic holder. I don't know the first thing about grading, but to the naked eye it looks ok.

I think I'll leave well enough alone, put it away and try not think about the mint for a long time.

1981 03-23-2009 02:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1641633)
I think I'll leave well enough alone, put it away and try not think about the mint for a long time.

Amen to that. It looks like this thread is winding down, I'm really going to miss it. :bawling: We had some great times together waiting to see if our coins would show up.

rodzm 03-23-2009 02:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1641649)
Amen to that. It looks like this thread is winding down, I'm really going to miss it. :bawling: We had some great times together waiting to see if our coins would show up.

Until we all get our UHRs this thread will NEVER die.

CoinNut 03-23-2009 02:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Got an e-mail from the mint,asking to take a "survey" from those that ordered UHR the first day. The mail said to enter my customer number to access survey and I can find in the e-mail sent. Dozens of others and myself did not get a "customer" number(Mint mistake,again). If you get an e-mail,you have to CALL them and ask for your number and then you can take the survey. Limited space to tell them what you think..:no_ma:

diversified2 03-23-2009 02:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1641693)
Got an e-mail from the mint,asking to take a "survey" from those that ordered UHR the first day. The mail said to enter my customer number to access survey and I can find in the e-mail sent. Dozens of others and myself did not get a "customer" number(Mint mistake,again). If you get an e-mail,you have to CALL them and ask for your number and then you can take the survey. Limited space to tell them what you think..:no_ma:

I'm sure they don't want to know what I have to say seeing that:36_1_28: I ordered at 12:20 PM on the first day and they did not ship until 3/12/09!!!!!!!!

HistoryStudent 03-23-2009 04:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 1641693)
Got an e-mail from the mint,asking to take a "survey" from those that ordered UHR the first day. The mail said to enter my customer number to access survey and I can find in the e-mail sent. Dozens of others and myself did not get a "customer" number(Mint mistake,again). If you get an e-mail,you have to CALL them and ask for your number and then you can take the survey. Limited space to tell them what you think..:no_ma:

I "ain't no way JOSE nada nothing zip zero" making any record - my mommy drowned all the dumb ones - they'll find out how many I orderd!

:111::111::111::111::yes:

HistoryStudent 03-23-2009 04:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1641752)
I'm sure they don't want to know what I have to say seeing that:36_1_28: I ordered at 12:20 PM on the first day and they did not ship until 3/12/09!!!!!!!!


See the next post. Strange how the orders are shipped.

:biggrin::111::111:

HistoryStudent 03-23-2009 04:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
They shipped my next UHR EAGLE - for tomorrow - ordered a few days ago. WOW! I'm beginning to LIKE their SERVICE. I take back the snide remarks and
poor attitude that I used to have - now if they would SHHHHHHH... just sent the next .... (wish I could order 5 more!)

C&L 1911 03-24-2009 02:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just FYI, the UHR book has gone from "Backordered until 4/1/2009" to "In stock and reserved". My replacement UHR is also in "In stock and reserved" status with cancel checkbox missing, so hopefully it will be shipping soon.

1981 03-24-2009 02:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Great, now these things are falling from the sky. I hope I don't get stuck with some piece of overpriced bullion.

C&L 1911 03-24-2009 02:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1643617)
Great, now these things are falling from the sky. I hope I don't get stuck with some piece of overpriced bullion.

It's still hit or miss... Like I said above, I'm still waiting for my replacement UHR (which I was told would be given highest priority over all new orders). I also had my brother order another UHR for me; the order was placed on March 5th, and it's still in pending status. :banghead:

HistoryStudent 03-24-2009 08:26 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The second ONE arrived (I hope #3 makes it! :signs14:) -

Anyway for those of you who haven't GOT YOURS yet and NEED a

MAJOR LIFT: (1911? - you should see mine {1911} - all "tricked" out with a MIRROR polished Detonics top end on a polished Colt SS Master bottom end 3 lb. trigger all polished ramp and all - worth about two of these UHR Eagles!))

Don't Worry - Be Happy - here's my phone number...

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm :signs14:


rodzm 03-25-2009 03:27 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1644112)
The second ONE arrived (I hope #3 makes it! :signs14:) -

Anyway for those of you who haven't GOT YOURS yet and NEED a

MAJOR LIFT: (1911? - you should see mine {1911} - all "tricked" out with a MIRROR polished Detonics top end on a polished Colt SS Master bottom end 3 lb. trigger all polished ramp and all - worth about two of these UHR Eagles!))

Don't Worry - Be Happy - here's my phone number...

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm :signs14:


Nice sarcasm HS....you suck

J/K...I havent received mine from the mint yet but i received Ebay's yesterday which i cant open because it is postmarked 3/11 and eligible for FS.

I really hope UHRs dont become another fad and that they appreciate nicely

kiwi_envoy 03-25-2009 05:01 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Got mine in Australia this week.

Left on the front door step

All good. :10_1_20:

rodzm 03-25-2009 09:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Yipeeeeeeeeeee...I went to my post office today and had 2 slips. One I knew for sure was Ebay's UHR and the second one was a plain yellow slip. Come to find out that both were UHR's

2 UHRs in one day, I was in heaven for just a few seconds. Beautiful coin...Lady Liberty is hottttt.:10_1_20:


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Turner-son 03-25-2009 02:50 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
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</td> </tr><tr> <td scope="row" align="left" valign="middle" height="19">2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK</td> <td align="left" valign="middle" height="19"> 1</td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td align="center" valign="middle" height="19">1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 04/01/2009.</td></tr></tbody></table>



Not bad, 8 days from order to ship. :565:

HistoryStudent 03-25-2009 03:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1644917)
Yipeeeeeeeeeee...I went to my post office today and had 2 slips. One I knew for sure was Ebay's UHR and the second one was a plain yellow slip. Come to find out that both were UHR's

2 UHRs in one day, I was in heaven for just a few seconds. Beautiful coin...Lady Liberty is hottttt.:10_1_20:

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm

I told YOU - TWO in one day! Congratulations.

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm:5_1_120:

HistoryStudent 03-25-2009 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turner-son (Post 1645430)
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Order Date: 03/17/2009 at 05:29 PM </td></tr> <tr> <td id="WC_OrderDetailDisplay_TableCell_7" align="left" valign="bottom">
Order Status: Your order request is in process.</td></tr></tbody></table>
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(each) </th> <th id="t4" align="center" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"> Total </th><th id="t4" align="center" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"> Item Status </th><th id="t4" align="center" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"> Cancel </th></tr> <tr><td colspan="6" height="3">https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc..._US/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6" bgcolor="#003366" height="1">https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc..._US/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6" height="1">https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc..._US/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6" bgcolor="#003366" height="1">https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc..._US/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6" height="3">https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc..._US/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr> <td scope="row" align="left" valign="middle" height="19">2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN</td> <td align="left" valign="middle" height="19"> 1</td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$1,289.00 </td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$1,289.00 </td> <td align="center" valign="middle" height="19"> 1 unit shipped on 03/25/2009

</td> </tr><tr> <td scope="row" align="left" valign="middle" height="19">2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK</td> <td align="left" valign="middle" height="19"> 1</td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td align="right" valign="middle" height="19">$0.00 </td> <td align="center" valign="middle" height="19">1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 04/01/2009.</td></tr></tbody></table>



Not bad, 8 days from order to ship. :565:


Perfecto. That's what I was trying to say. Things are working there at the MINT.

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm:111:

C&L 1911 03-25-2009 03:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Sweet... My replacement UHR also shipped today. :applause_

Now, I just need to find out WTF is going on with my other order placed almost 4 weeks ago, and why is it still "processing". :rant:

rodzm 03-25-2009 03:26 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1645480)
Sweet... My replacement UHR also shipped today. :applause_

Now, I just need to find out WTF is going on with my other order placed almost 4 weeks ago, and why is it still "processing". :rant:

Congrats...looks like the mint may be getting its act together. If they could now ofer more products we'd be all good to go. I hate those damn spouse coins...just hideous

Elvis 03-25-2009 06:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got mine before I got my email from the mint telling me it was shipped.

rodzm 03-26-2009 11:10 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Looks like UHRs have a new available for shipping date...06/24/2009

diversified2 03-26-2009 12:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1646828)
Looks like UHRs have a new available for shipping date...06/24/2009

It took 51 days to get the first one and 6 days to get the second which just arrived today! It's just as perfect as the first one!!! I got lucky....my karma has changed....I am on a roll =) :banana::36_1_32v::s1:

C&L 1911 03-26-2009 12:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1646949)
It took 51 days to get the first one and 6 days to get the second which just arrived today! It's just as perfect as the first one!!! I got lucky....my karma has changed....I am on a roll =) :banana::36_1_32v::s1:

So, did they lift the "one per household" restriction, or did you order with a different account/address info?

diversified2 03-26-2009 12:33 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1646958)
So, did they lift the "one per household" restriction, or did you order with a different account/address info?

Nope....even used the same CC...:applause_

C&L 1911 03-26-2009 12:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1646971)
Nope....even used the same CC...:applause_

Interesting... So all that rationing was BS to begin with. I guess now that anybody can order as many as they want, we can expect the street prices of our UHRs to drop, and all those eBay sellers hoping to make $500 profits on their ungraded UHRs will probably get stuck with a loss.

diversified2 03-26-2009 12:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1646976)
Interesting... So all that rationing was BS to begin with. I guess now that anybody can order as many as they want, we can expect the street prices of our UHRs to drop, and all those eBay sellers hoping to make $500 profits on their ungraded UHRs will probably get stuck with a loss.

You are probably right! The future prices will depend on how many they actually end up minting. I haven't seen any for sale that were less than 69 & quite a few 70's...

HistoryStudent 03-26-2009 02:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1646998)
You are probably right! The future prices will depend on how many they actually end up minting. I haven't seen any for sale that were less than 69 & quite a few 70's...

The prices on EBAY are starting to subside a tad; the above post says it all re: "on how many they actually end up minting."

The Coin World mag ads mention "only 300 graded MS70 by NGC/PCGS."

That may change to 30,000.
:sarcasm::signs14::36_1_32v:

C&L 1911 03-26-2009 07:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My UHR book shipped today...

Turner-son 03-26-2009 08:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis (Post 1645849)
I got mine before I got my email from the mint telling me it was shipped.


Lol, same here! It's truly a beautiful coin, although I was a bit taken aback by the size of the box! Still, it's very nice looking - the whole presentation is awesome.

HistoryStudent 03-26-2009 09:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turner-son (Post 1647725)
Lol, same here! It's truly a beautiful coin, although I was a bit taken aback by the size of the box! Still, it's very nice looking - the whole presentation is awesome.

Kinda makes you HATE to get it slabbed - that's why I hesitated.

It's a beautiful presentation. I have GOBS of gold slabs - they ain't that PRETTY - they are not. Not as pretty as the boxes and the main box.
And it would get lost with the 1907 to 1928 Saints.:signs14:

Reminds me of the 2007 Platinum box proof set reverse and regular in 1/2 ounce each.

And the dual 2008 prosperity eagle set set.

Only the UHR is prettier.

californiajeff 03-27-2009 12:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1646976)
Interesting... So all that rationing was BS to begin with. I guess now that anybody can order as many as they want, we can expect the street prices of our UHRs to drop, and all those eBay sellers hoping to make $500 profits on their ungraded UHRs will probably get stuck with a loss.

I'll buy mine when they are selling close to spot next year. :biggrin:

Junk Woody 03-27-2009 12:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Which will be higher:

The mintage of UHR's
or
The amount of views in this UHR thread?

HistoryStudent 03-27-2009 05:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by californiajeff (Post 1648840)
I'll buy mine when they are selling close to spot next year. :biggrin:

I think they'll ALWAYS carry SOME premium. My humble guess is that they will stop them in 2009 when they hit a certain number like around 1000,000 plus up to maybe 200,000 - who knows what the plans of mice & g-men can be?

This does several things:

That makes them a signature coin for Mr. Moy - they really are PRETTY!
Helps sell the old Saints again (boy are they scooting UPward^!);
The rationing keeps other coins from being minted;
The price of gold can scoot upward while the Rationing is enforced;
The platinum and gold coins can be NOT minted while the confusion over the UHR is enforced;

and a WHOLE bunch of other related items on the same motive.

I smile (read a big belly laugh and then a chuckle) when I think HOW MUCH the MINT is s disobeying their public mission and duty of simply - MINTING GOLD SILVER AND PLATINUM coins for the US public.

Convicted!


"Book 'em Dano!":signs14::111::111::111:







Apocalypto 03-27-2009 05:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by californiajeff (Post 1648840)
I'll buy mine when they are selling close to spot next year. :biggrin:

Not gonna happen. At least you won't get mine that way. The price of this coin is bound to fluctuate a bit, but the general trend will always be up. If you really want one, get one as soon as possible. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow. But I'm not alone in my analysis.

HistoryStudent 03-27-2009 06:15 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
24,000 VIEWS of this THREAD shows a (under statement comming) LOT of interest in ONE SPECIFIC coin - perhaps?

I'll bet the mint hasn't shipped that many YET!

:111::111:

Gordon Gekko 03-27-2009 07:16 PM

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So, I got my coin back today from PCGS...

C&L 1911 03-27-2009 08:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1649449)
So, I got my coin back today from PCGS...

And???????

kiwi_envoy 03-27-2009 08:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The Mint even stuffed up their precious survey.

Kiwi

Dear Valued United States Mint Customer,
We are resending this invitation to our customers to enable the completion of the survey referenced in the below email. Your customer number has been included in this email so that you can access the survey and provide feedback. We apologize for the confusion and inconvenience resulting from the March 23, 2009, email.
Customer Number 0579xxxxx
In order to receive direct and timely feedback from our customers regarding their experience when ordering the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin during first availability, I would greatly appreciate your response to a brief survey about the United States Mint's performance.
Response to this survey is voluntary and all responses will be kept completely anonymous. According to the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995, no persons are required to respond to a collection of information unless it displays a valid OMB number. The valid OMB control number for this information collection is 1525-0012-0131.
Please follow this link to take the survey:
http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...atalogId=10001
If clicking on the link does not work, please copy and paste this link into your web browser. You will need your customer number to enter the survey site once your browser takes you to it. This survey is very brief and should take only a few minutes to complete.
I will personally read your response, as will our head of Sales & Marketing, and our Chief Information Officer. Thank you very much for your time in completing this survey for the United States Mint. The level of customer service we provide is very important to us --- we will use your response to improve!
Sincerely,
Andy Brunhart
Deputy Director
United States Mint

Gordon Gekko 03-27-2009 08:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1649512)
And???????

The dealer I used only charged me $95!:565:

C&L 1911 03-27-2009 09:02 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1649571)
The dealer I used only charged me $95!:565:

That's good, but what did it grade?

HistoryStudent 03-27-2009 09:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1649599)
That's good, but what did it grade?

MS69?

MS70?

A MS69 1907 would be worth a MILLION bucks!

A MS70 1907 who knows?:23_1_22:

Apocalypto 03-28-2009 12:27 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Mr. Gekko, the anticipation is killing us...

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 12:39 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1649875)
Mr. Gekko, the anticipation is killing us...

Ahhhhh yes, the grade!

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...1010/PCGS1.jpg

:565::565::565:

Buyingsilvers 03-28-2009 12:41 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
haha, must be a 70


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Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 12:47 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Picture quality is a little rough, but, it's late and I have to get up in a little bit to go to work. Blah. I have a funny story about the grading that I will share with you guys tomorrow. I am one lucky dog!

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 08:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
So, here's the story:

I was pretty hesitant to send it in to PCGS to get graded. But, I felt that it was worth the gamble. So, I took it to my local dealer who is PCGS authorized. I called him yesterday to see if the coin is back yet and he says that it is. He was in cahoots because along with my coin, he sent two of his own person UHR DE's to get graded and both of his came back MS69 while mine was the only one that came back MS70. I was really shocked. He could have easily switched the coins and I wouldn't have even known. So, then I go to pick it up and pay for the service, and he only charges me $95, which I thought was very reasonable. I gave him $100 and told him to keep the extra $5, but he just wouldn't take it.

Pretty crazy isn't it? This coin and I were just meant to be. I got the coin really "early" when I shouldn't have (orded the second day they went on sale) and I also got an MS70!!! Needless tp say, I am a very happer camper. This is my first numismatic coin and I am VERY happy with it.

Now, I am confused about my second order. I had my girlfriend order it using her debit card and we placed the order a while ago (March 7th). She had to fill out some address and credit card verification form. So, we did that last Sunday and it went in the mail this past Monday morning. BUT, when I track the order by calling the Mint, it still says that "additional credit card and address verification is being performed, blah blah blah". What gives?

diversified2 03-28-2009 09:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Hey GG, Glad to see you got your coin back! It is hard to tell from looking at the pics whether the coin is protected front and back by the PCGS holder. I was wondering about that, as well as, the NGC ones seem to be going for more on ebay. Also HS who supposedly has been studying up on these didn't mention that some of the 69 NGC ones are coming back with a PL designation (Proof Like) but I didn't see any 70 PL's. EE never responded to the question regarding the 2 coins he had graded as to which one received the 70...I suspect it wasn't the proof like one. Would be interesting to hear some thoughts on this...:coolbeer:

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 09:21 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1650131)
Hey GG, Glad to see you got your coin back! It is hard to tell from looking at the pics whether the coin is protected front and back by the PCGS holder. I was wondering about that, as well as, the NGC ones seem to be going for more on ebay. Also HS who supposedly has been studying up on these didn't mention that some of the 69 NGC ones are coming back with a PL designation (Proof Like) but I didn't see any 70 PL's. EE never responded to the question regarding the 2 coins he had graded as to which one received the 70...I suspect it wasn't the proof like one. Would be interesting to hear some thoughts on this...:coolbeer:

Yes, the coin is full encapsuled in the slab and is 100% protected. Now, if only my second one will get here!:s15:

diversified2 03-28-2009 09:33 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1650143)
Yes, the coin is full encapsuled in the slab and is 100% protected. Now, if only my second one will get here!:s15:

It will come...I suspect you are planning on keeping it in the original box for the second one???

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 09:45 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1650152)
It will come...I suspect you are planning on keeping it in the original box for the second one???

That is correct. I will have one slabbed, and one in the original mint packaging. I am contemplating not even opening up the packaging that it's mailed in. BUT, with some members receiving their coin in terrbile shape, it's probably a good idea to make sure I didn't get a dud.

EE_ 03-28-2009 09:52 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Congrats GG, looks like you made the right decision after him/hawing around, and almost not sending it in. Money well spent.
The First Strike designation, whether people think it's a bunch of hooey or not, will always bring more then non FS.
I personally, like this coin slabbed.

PS, my MS70 was not the proof like of the two, however it is still a little proof like, compared to others I've seen.

diversified2 03-28-2009 09:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1650165)

PS, my MS70 was not the proof like of the two, however it is still a little proof like, compared to others I've seen.

I have one that is more proof like than the other...can't find any flaws on either so I guess I should send the one that is less proof like for grading?? Thanks for the info....:23_1_22: as always I value your opinion and expertise!

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 10:00 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1650165)
Congrats GG, looks like you made the right decision after him/hawing around, and almost not sending it in. Money well spent.
The First Strike designation, whether people think it's a bunch of hooey or not, will always bring more then non FS.
I personally, like this coin slabbed.

PS, my MS70 was not the proof like of the two, however it is still a little proof like, compared to others I've seen.


Yes, it was most definitely worth it. I can't keep my eyes off the coin. I like it in the slab as well. It is presented very well.

Now the question remains EE, do you think it should be flipped on Ebay for a $1,000+ profit? Or, should it be held onto for a while in hopes that it will go for a lot more in the future? My gut is telling me to hold onto it, but, it is hard passing up an easy $1,000+ profit.

EE_ 03-28-2009 10:29 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1650169)
Yes, it was most definitely worth it. I can't keep my eyes off the coin. I like it in the slab as well. It is presented very well.

Now the question remains EE, do you think it should be flipped on Ebay for a $1,000+ profit? Or, should it be held onto for a while in hopes that it will go for a lot more in the future? My gut is telling me to hold onto it, but, it is hard passing up an easy $1,000+ profit.

I don't think you'll ever lose all of the $1,000+ profit. I don't think this FS70 coin will ever go below $1,800, no matter how plentiful they get.
The question is, what will they sell for if the program ends abruptly and there are only 50,000/80,000 produced?

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 10:32 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1650210)
I don't think you'll ever lose all of the $1,000+ profit. I don't think this FS70 coin will ever go below $1,800, no matter how plentiful they get.
The question is, what will they sell for if the program ends abruptly and there are only 50,000/80,000 produced?

That is definitely the million dollar question.

Is there any way to tell how many have been First Strikes have been graded MS70 or how many UHR DE's have been minted?

EE_ 03-28-2009 10:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1650214)
That is definitely the million dollar question.

Is there any way to tell how many have been First Strikes have been graded MS70?

Last I saw, it was 1,054 70 FS's...which is a lot.
You have to factor in demand to the equation.
Let me add, this coin and the lack of products from the US mint is driving St. Gauden's prices. People are turning to St. Gauden's for investment, which have become more popular with the popularity of this UHR design.

Elvis 03-28-2009 10:50 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turner-son (Post 1647725)
I was a bit taken aback by the size of the box!

Me too. It's flipping huge, but a great presentation.

Takes up a ton of room in safe storage however.

That's always the problem for me. To leave out and drool, or to hide away and preserve.

Yeah, for coins too.

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1650230)
Last I saw, it was 1,054 70 FS's...which is a lot.
You have to factor in demand to the equation.
Let me add, this coin and the lack of products from the US mint is driving St. Gauden's prices. People are turning to St. Gauden's for investment, which have become more popular with the popularity of this UHR design.

How can one check that number? Through PCGS perhaps?

lumpOgold 03-28-2009 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis (Post 1650240)
Me too. It's flipping huge, but a great presentation.

Takes up a ton of room in safe storage however.

That's always the problem for me. To leave out and drool, or to hide away and preserve.

Yeah, for coins too.

You don't have to put the whole wood box in the safe! :grin:

EE_ 03-28-2009 10:54 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1650242)
How can one check that number? Through PCGS perhaps?

I get it second hand...you have to be a member of PCGS to get pop reports.

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 10:55 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1650247)
I get it second hand...you have to be a member of PCGS to get pop reports.

Ahhh, I see. Well, regardless, having something that is 1/~1,000 doesn't seem too bad!

ng1469 03-28-2009 11:32 AM

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http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...pulation1c.jpg

There were only 3 non-FS graded MS70 so i didnt think it was important to put that chart up there

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1650288)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...pulation1c.jpg

There were only 3 non-FS graded MS70 so i didnt think it was important to put that chart up there

Thanks a lot for the info ng1469!

When is this information as of?

ng1469 03-28-2009 11:43 AM

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I just checked it 5 minutes ago. I don't know how often they update their population reports

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1650303)
I just checked it 5 minutes ago. I don't know how often they update their population reports

Gotcha. Thanks again for the update. It is very helpful.

C&L 1911 03-28-2009 11:50 AM

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Looking at that chart, MS68s may command higher premiums than MS70s because there are only two of them so far, vs. almost a 1000 of MS70s. :biggrin:

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1650314)
Looking at that chart, MS68s may command higher premiums than MS70s because there are only two of them so far, vs. almost a 1000 of MS70s. :biggrin:

Haha, didn't even think about it like that. Sounds like you should have kept yours instead of sending it back for a better one!:565:

C&L 1911 03-28-2009 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1650316)
Haha, didn't even think about it like that. Sounds like you should have kept yours instead of sending it back for a better one!:565:

No kidding. Hey, I could have probably gotten an MS65 with it, which would be worth a fortune. :biggrin:

Apocalypto 03-28-2009 12:43 PM

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Congrats on the MS70, Mr. Gekko. That's excellent. Mine is still boxed.

Gordon Gekko 03-28-2009 12:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1650364)
Congrats on the MS70, Mr. Gekko. That's excellent. Mine is still boxed.

Thanks a lot. I am pretty excited about it. Do you have plans on sending it in for grading?

GreenSpirit 03-28-2009 01:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Mine just came back as First Strike MS 71.
I didn't even know they could do that. :ok:

diversified2 03-28-2009 01:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1650384)
Mine just came back as First Strike MS 71.
I didn't even know they could do that. :ok:

:111::4_1_72:AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

HistoryStudent 03-28-2009 03:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1650288)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...pulation1c.jpg

There were only 3 non-FS graded MS70 so i didnt think it was important to put that chart up there


Thanks NOW for that listing.

In re: NGC I logged in to find that to date:

MS68 only 5
MS69 only 391
MS70 only 567

Those figures are accurate to right NOW as a Collector's Corner member.

SO it appears ratio wise - NGC is harder than PCGS in grading because the population
remains standard. PCGS may LOSE their HIGH FALUTIN' ratings. I don't know.

Hope that helps for a little bigger picture - there is also SGS ANACS SEGS
ETCETERA!:yes

HistoryStudent 03-28-2009 04:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1650384)
Mine just came back as First Strike MS 71.
I didn't even know they could do that. :ok:

:111::111::111::favorites21::favorites21:

Recent search on EBAY produced 119 Ultra High 2009 eagles

down from 207 a few days prior.

the lowest MS69 was\is $1725.00 PCGS too.


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rodzm 03-28-2009 06:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I think the reason for lower NGC population is due to the eligibility date being 3/9 instead of 3/11. You'd be amazed what 2 days difference can make especially since the mint shipped tons of coins rather slowly and were delivered after the 9th

j-son 03-28-2009 06:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
flip the coin in ms70 grade for a $1000 profit and buy another one plus a gold eagle for the same price.

dont be silly...take the profit before its tough to get...remember..the future will probably be grim for ebay/IRS/taxing/selling....now is the time!

HistoryStudent 03-28-2009 07:13 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1650640)
I think the reason for lower NGC population is due to the eligibility date being 3/9 instead of 3/11. You'd be amazed what 2 days difference can make especially since the mint shipped tons of coins rather slowly and were delivered after the 9th

Thanks I did not know that. Mine shipped 3-10-09. Wow!

I TOTALLY TOTALLY agree - you are spot on - as the Brits would say.

I think you should be one of the GIM GURUs - if there was one. :5_1_120:

With EE of course. :yes:

rodzm 03-28-2009 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1650726)
Thanks I did not know that. Mine shipped 3-10-09. Wow!

I TOTALLY TOTALLY agree - you are spot on - as the Brits would say.

I think you should be one of the GIM GURUs - if there was one. :5_1_120:

With EE of course. :yes:

Far from Guru but thanks...it just seems that way with NGC. I think in the long run NGCs will be worth more due to the lower population numbers

Gordon Gekko 03-29-2009 01:57 PM

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BTW, I am contemplating canceling my second order.

I am wondering, is there any place that sells just the plastic capsule that it originally came in? PCGS did not send it back to me and I would like to have it just for the heck of it.

rodzm 03-29-2009 02:20 PM

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For those keeping track here are the latest PCGS First Strike and Regular population reports. I can update weekly if you'd all like

Gordon Gekko 03-29-2009 02:21 PM

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Thanks a lot! That would be great if you could post them weekly. I know I, along with many others, would greatly appreciate it. :36_1_32v:

rodzm 03-29-2009 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1651878)
Thanks a lot! That would be great if you could post them weekly. I know I, along with many others, would greatly appreciate it. :36_1_32v:

No problem...I know it sucks not being able to check the population reports and since I got the subscription why not help out the GIM community with the info. If anyone has any special request on certain coins I can probably accomodate, so long asv I dont get an overwhelming amount of requests


Looks though like 70's are bountiful.

Ill be posting updates every Sunday night but in case I forget I would greatly apprreciate a reminder via this thread

Gordon Gekko 03-29-2009 02:48 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1651881)
No problem...I know it sucks not being able to check the population reports and since I got the subscription why not help out the GIM community with the info. If anyone has any special request on certain coins I can probably accomodate, so long asv I dont get an overwhelming amount of requests


Looks though like 70's are bountiful.

Ill be posting updates every Sunday night but in case I forget I would greatly apprreciate a reminder via this thread

You are a true gentleman. :yes:

Gordon Gekko 03-29-2009 02:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
How about finding out how many UHR DE's have been minted thus far? Is that something that can be found out?

ng1469 03-29-2009 04:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1651845)
BTW, I am contemplating canceling my second order.

I am wondering, is there any place that sells just the plastic capsule that it originally came in? PCGS did not send it back to me and I would like to have it just for the heck of it.

Thats weird. They sent mine back to me

j-son 03-29-2009 04:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
they usually never sent them back to me either.

Gordon Gekko 03-29-2009 04:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1652012)
Thats weird. They sent mine back to me

I submitted mine through a local PCGS authorized dealer. Perhaps they did in fact send it back, but the guys just lied about not receiving it. I doubt it though. I just wish I could order one from somewhere. I'd pay $10.00 for it.

jogslvr 03-29-2009 11:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1641870)
They shipped my next UHR EAGLE - for tomorrow - ordered a few days ago. WOW! I'm beginning to LIKE their SERVICE. I take back the snide remarks and
poor attitude that I used to have - now if they would SHHHHHHH... just sent the next .... (wish I could order 5 more!)

I was shocked myself. I ordered 3 weeks ago and received my boxed UHRDE the following week via expedited shipping. From what I'd read on here I thot it'd prolly take months. I was pleasantly surprised.

Anyway, I'm no grader of coin; got in this diversion at first just for the PM hedge, buying mostly bullion. But, now I see you guys talking all this MS60-MS70 grading stuff and you got to looking at mine pretty hard. It looks damn near perfect to me using magnification thru the capsule; I ain't about to take it out or ship to a grading service.

That box shore is purdee though; looks like it should have cost more than the mere $5.95 extra they tacked on for it but I figure they more than coved that with the over $300 premium, huh? I think I paid near $1318 delivered to my door.

Do ya'll really think they are worth ordering a second UHR at that high price?

unalga 03-29-2009 11:40 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Sure have to feel sorry for those guys getting the 68's. That sucks.:signs14:

C&L 1911 03-29-2009 11:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unalga (Post 1652778)
Sure have to feel sorry for those guys getting the 68's. That sucks.:signs14:

Don't be. They probably break them out of the slab, put them back in the original box and flip them on eBay for only $300-400 profit instead of $1000 profit on MS70. :15_1_70v:

HistoryStudent 03-30-2009 05:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
SHIPPING me MY third one - so I'm going to order my fourth tonight.

WOW!

Keeping them in the ORIGINAL boxes for now.

That's me doing the "DANCE" below *

banchabanchabanchabanchabanchabanchabancha:banana: :banana::yes:

HOWEVER - now I GOTTA find the four grand to pay for the first three!

EE-VEY!

Buyingsilvers 03-30-2009 05:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Im thinking of getting a second.

Why is the price still $1289? Didn't the POG go down since they increased the price?

Price: $1,289.00

lumpOgold 03-30-2009 05:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
THey only adjust the price after moves of $50 or more and only on Wednesday. So unless the POG goes below $900 or over $949 then the prices will stay at $1289.

Bill57 03-30-2009 09:31 PM

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I just received an email from the mint advising that the UHR book was sent. I had almost forgotten about the book (its been so long).

HistoryStudent 03-30-2009 11:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1654494)
I just received an email from the mint advising that the UHR book was sent. I had almost forgotten about the book (its been so long).


It'll be a COLLECTORS item. I wonder what they'd bring if the mint cancels the UHR eagles and kills sending the books before the end of the year.

It would rhyme with the way the MINT started in the early 1800s - NO GOLD COINS made. Come to think of it...

How many do they make now.

The UHR and the TERRIBLE SPOUSES. NADA zero zip nothing else - not even a platinum coin.

Wowie, what happened are they OUT?

:111::111::111:

HistoryStudent 03-30-2009 11:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1652017)
I submitted mine through a local PCGS authorized dealer. Perhaps they did in fact send it back, but the guys just lied about not receiving it. I doubt it though. I just wish I could order one from somewhere. I'd pay $10.00 for it.

Don't worry search around they'l turn up. PCGS and NGC have hundreds of them give them a call.

:yes:

EE_ 03-31-2009 12:41 AM

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The new UHR book's here! The new UHR book's here!

http://slatersgarage.files.wordpress...on-navin-r.jpg

Well, tomorrow morning it will be.

Apocalypto 03-31-2009 02:42 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1654748)
The new UHR book's here! The new UHR book's here!

http://slatersgarage.files.wordpress...on-navin-r.jpg

Well, tomorrow morning it will be.

LOL, EE awesome accompanying photo there. Steve Martin is hilarious.

diversified2 03-31-2009 11:35 AM

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At Least I got the book First... It's a First Strike 70!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cry1:

Gordon Gekko 03-31-2009 12:09 PM

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That looks like a cool book! Who knows when mine will come in. Even if it doesn't come in, I am not too sure I'll even care. I kinda forgot about it anyways.

EE_ 03-31-2009 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1655330)
At Least I got the book First... It's a First Strike 70!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cry1:

Cool...now don't you want to rip that plastic off and see what's inside? :bear_w00t:

EE_ 03-31-2009 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1655406)
That looks like a cool book! Who knows when mine will come in. Even if it doesn't come in, I am not too sure I'll even care. I kinda forgot about it anyways.

Check---> http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...QQcmdZViewItem

Gordon Gekko 03-31-2009 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1655410)

Wow! Ok then, maybe I do want it to come in!

On a somewhat related note, it seems like the FS MS70's have kind of leveled off in the $2,200 - $2,300 price range on Ebay. Just FYI. Maybe that's where they will stay for a while until the flipping is over and then they go higher!

EE_ 03-31-2009 12:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1655420)
Wow! Ok then, maybe I do want it to come in!

On a somewhat related note, it seems like the FS MS70's have kind of leveled off in the $2,200 - $2,300 price range on Ebay. Just FYI. Maybe that's where they will stay for a while until the flipping is over and then they go higher!

How quickly we change our tune! lol


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Gordon Gekko 03-31-2009 12:35 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1655472)
How quickly we change our tune! lol

Money will do that to ya!

HistoryStudent 03-31-2009 02:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1655475)
Money will do that to ya!

It's a GOLD FEVER RUSH - only in book form now. Sad how the public loves the deratives of the real thing - paper never replaces the real thing. :5_1_120::yes:

Bill57 04-03-2009 12:10 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Sort of like a fax in place of an original document.
Or an online version of the newspaper.
Just ain't the real thing!

Gordon Gekko 04-04-2009 03:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I have been monitoring the action of the FS MS70's on Ebay for a while. Definitely seems like the prices have bottomed out in the $2,200-$2,400 price range and it actually seems like the prices have turned upwards the past few days. Here are some recent auctions:

$2,400: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1318

$2,250: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-GOLD-20-ULT...1%7C240%3A1309

$2,225: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1318

There are also numerous auctions with a day or two left going for $2,275.

Not too bad.

C&L 1911 04-04-2009 03:51 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Those of you who ordered (and received) more than one UHR (ordered with the same account/address/etc.) must be very lucky. I ordered my second one earlier this week, and my order was canceled a couple of days later for no reason. :s15:

EE_ 04-04-2009 04:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1662604)
I have been monitoring the action of the FS MS70's on Ebay for a while. Definitely seems like the prices have bottomed out in the $2,200-$2,400 price range and it actually seems like the prices have turned upwards the past few days. Here are some recent auctions:

$2,400: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1318

$2,250: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-GOLD-20-ULT...1%7C240%3A1309

$2,225: http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1318

There are also numerous auctions with a day or two left going for $2,275.

Not too bad.

Aparently many people are holding on to these 70FS's
As many graded as there are, you'd think you would see more for sale?

Gordon Gekko 04-04-2009 04:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1662633)
Aparently many people are holding on to these 70FS's
As many graded as there are, you'd think you would see more for sale?

I was thinking the same thing. There are a lot more MS69's showing up for sale on ebay, also.

Gordon Gekko 04-04-2009 04:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Looks like APMEX is selling a FS MS70 for $3,000 :36_1_25:

http://www.apmex.com/Product/50936/2...st_Strike.aspx

EE_ 04-04-2009 04:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1662657)
I was thinking the same thing. There are a lot more MS69's showing up for sale on ebay, also.

Are you thinking about selling?
I know you're glad you got yours graded, and a FS70!
If you sell it...what will you do with the $1,000 profit?

Gordon Gekko 04-04-2009 05:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1662675)
Are you thinking about selling?
I know you're glad you got yours graded, and a FS70!
If you sell it...what will you do with the $1,000 profit?

Definitely not thinking about selling at the moment. I just like to monitor the price action on Ebay to give myself a better sense of what the coin is trully worth. I am planning on holding this one for the long run, unless some extreme circumstance forces me to sell.

Manager Mr 04-04-2009 06:10 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
call me crazy... but I think I'm going to go for my fourth one:stupid:

rodzm 04-05-2009 06:19 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
As promised I have posted the PCGS population reports for this week on its own thread. Please feel free to post other grading companies reports so we may gather a more accurate number of grades

Gordon Gekko 04-07-2009 05:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The FS MS70's are definitely going for a lot more right now on Ebay. Look at these recent auctions!:

($2,650!): http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-First-St...1%7C240%3A1318

($2,552): http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1318

($2,425): http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-...1%7C240%3A1308

I am so glad I didn't flip mine on ebay for a quick $1,000 profit. The prices now keep going up and up.

Gordon Gekko 04-07-2009 05:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Also, it seems that some coins have a "proof" like finish to them. These coins are going for a ton!

($4,982!): http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...1%7C240%3A1307

($2,850 w/ more time to go): http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-ULTRA-HI...1%7C240%3A1318

I am tempted to list mine because I feel like it has somewhat of a "proof" finish. What's to stop me? There isn't anything on it from PCGS or NGC saying that it is any more "proof" like than others. What gives?

ng1469 04-07-2009 06:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I don't know if PCGS even designated if it was proof like or not. I haven't seen any PCGS graded that have the PL designation

Gordon Gekko 04-07-2009 06:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ng1469 (Post 1667358)
I don't know if PCGS even designated if it was proof like or not. I haven't seen any PCGS graded that have the PL designation

Ahhh, I see what you're saying. Those NGC labels say MS70 PL. I didn't catch that. Even still, that is a crazy price to pay. I haven't seen any PCGS Proof Like labels as well.

HistoryStudent 04-07-2009 08:50 PM

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Yep. I just BID for a MS70 PL at $1,500 and was IMMEDIATELY outbid.

:4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72:

But, then the MINT said mine shipped today (again!)


:yes::yes:

:thinkey: So tomorrow I'll order another.

:hahaha::hahaha:



:23_30_104: The NEW ones are MORE Proof LIKE! :haha:

Gordon Gekko 04-07-2009 09:55 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Haha, HS. You are a lucky man!

HistoryStudent 04-07-2009 10:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1667629)
Haha, HS. You are a lucky man!

Ah, PILGRIM, I just have to thank the LORD.

:wink:

Best wishes and BLESSINGS to you too.

HS :yes:

lumpOgold 04-08-2009 12:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The price of the UHR just went down at the US Mint, it is now $1239.
And since they only reprice weekly, you don't have to run out and reserve one today. ;-)

HistoryStudent 04-08-2009 03:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 1668523)
The price of the UHR just went down at the US Mint, it is now $1239.
And since they only reprice weekly, you don't have to run out and reserve one today. ;-)

Thanks for the INFO. I just GOT one today. It looks like a PROOF - it's PROOF LIKE. WOW! PROOF LIKE.

Wow! :getdown::getdown::getdown::getdown:

It even came a SMALL LITTLE BOOK. Wow! :getdown::getdown:


This book is SMall same color and size as the BLUE box the coin comes in. It is rather well done some 48 pages and gives you a lot of
history on the UHR original and current UHR Eagle coins. Pretty picture of the coin on front and quite a keepsake with the coin itself.
If you have received a coin already - you'll be glad to have this addition. My poor 2-cents.




So now I'll JUST wait for the other TINY little books which fit in with the Wooden BOX - BOOKS they OWE me. :5_1_120:

Guess I order another because they are getting BETTER at making these things.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1x...be-happy_music

Number FOUR ordered and accepted - COME TO PAPA - be another PROOF LIKE - please...!

:wink::wink::wink::111::yes:

Manager Mr 04-09-2009 11:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
"The price of the UHR just went down at the US Mint, it is now $1239."

That explains the fast turn around time, ordered No.4 /Sat 04-04-09 and here at my door as I type Thursday 04-09-09.

Hey HistoryStudent my No.3 also came yesterday It looks like a PROOF
But my poor wife opened that box, because it had her name on it.:cry1:

HistoryStudent 04-09-2009 05:33 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1669867)
"The price of the UHR just went down at the US Mint, it is now $1239."

That explains the fast turn around time, ordered No.4 /Sat 04-04-09 and here at my door as I type Thursday 04-09-09.

Hey HistoryStudent my No.3 also came yesterday It looks like a PROOF
But my poor wife opened that box, because it had her name on it.:cry1:

CONGRATULATIONS!

You figured it out too. Congratulations. These puppies will really be something in 2010 - I'LL bet ya a cup of coffee. You are ahead of me. :36_1_28: ::bash:

Just kidding!

Frankly, the way they did them up :wink: (and the slabs to me are about as interesting as 100 raw Gold Eagles in tubes) I prefer to keep them in their original BLUE boxes with the small books on top. I do.

Hats OFF to US MINT and Mr. MOY - I always wanted a Ultra High Relief Saint - now I got more than a few. :23_28_100s::23_28_100s::111:

Hey There's a Proof Like UHR MS70 going for $2650 bidding and the RESERVE "ain't" met YET: imagine that?
On ebay that is.

esoteric 04-10-2009 09:49 PM

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quick question for the guys who has got theirs......is the $5 bucks gift box a buy? or does it come in a nice box already so no need to buy?????

Gordon Gekko 04-10-2009 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1672280)
quick question for the guys who has got theirs......is the $5 bucks gift box a buy? or does it come in a nice box already so no need to buy?????

It comes in an impressive wood box. No need to buy a box. Look at pages 12-15. I remember posting some pictures of the box it comes in.

Buyingsilvers 04-10-2009 09:58 PM

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did you guys get your books yet?

Gordon Gekko 04-10-2009 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1672290)
did you guys get your books yet?

Negative. Not sure why I haven't gotten it yet.

C&L 1911 04-10-2009 10:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1672290)
did you guys get your books yet?

I got mine 2 or 3 weeks ago...

smyles 04-10-2009 10:40 PM

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Not I. I hope I do, but I feel lucky just to get the coin after the "gift wrapping" charade.

BTW - Many thx to rodzm and HistoryStudent for sharing and educating.

HistoryStudent 04-10-2009 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1672290)
did you guys get your books yet?

A new UHR Eagle delivery last week came with a book: the wife's and my other one from March 10th & 14th have not YET had their BOOKS arrive.


It's real small and fits in the box - they just added a piece of foam for the book size in the boxes that did not YET have a BOOK. They send the books out in a padded envelope later -as I have seen some on the internet for sale.

Hope that helps - the book is blue like the box small and about 48 pages - I believe.

:yes:


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HistoryStudent 04-10-2009 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1669867)
"The price of the UHR just went down at the US Mint, it is now $1239."

That explains the fast turn around time, ordered No.4 /Sat 04-04-09 and here at my door as I type Thursday 04-09-09.

Hey HistoryStudent my No.3 also came yesterday It looks like a PROOF
But my poor wife opened that box, because it had her name on it.:cry1:

Now I'm really JEALOUS cause the dirty stinkin' lousy mint caught me and cancelled my next one (Again I'm Peck's little bad boy! :playingba and they won't PLAY ball with me!) and the last one I GOT was PURRR...FECT!

PROOF LIKE - I'm so sick I went to EBAY and bought a MS70 First Strike. :4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72: Now, I gotta hide the BILLING from the Darling Wife again!

Another fine MESS I got myself into too.

Buyingsilvers 04-10-2009 11:35 PM

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that's cool. Thanks for the info. I just thought it might be a good read, and was strange that I didn't get one for my early feb. order yet.

Apocalypto 04-10-2009 11:45 PM

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I just today received my confirmation from the mint that the book is on its way. (I bought on the first day)

C&L 1911 04-10-2009 11:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1672438)
I just today received my confirmation from the mint that the book is on its way. (I bought on the first day)

So much for "first come first served", huh? :confused_m:

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1672451)
So much for "first come first served", huh? :confused_m:

:111::111::111::111::111::signs14:

I wonder how many of these UHR Eagles they will end up making?

They don't have anything else to BUY in gold FOR NUMISMATICS "except the DEAD at the Gate - 1/2 ounce SPOUSE LOUSY!"

:111::111::111::111::111::signs14:

rodzm 04-11-2009 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1672731)
:111::111::111::111::111::signs14:

I wonder how many of these UHR Eagles they will end up making?

They don't have anything else to BUY in gold FOR NUMISMATICS "except the DEAD at the Gate - 1/2 ounce SPOUSE LOUSY!"

:111::111::111::111::111::signs14:


Well considering that in the 1st day there were only 29,000 blanks available and over 47,000 orders placed it seems like the mint may be on pace to a mintage of less than 100K perhaps around 75K would be more realistic.

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 02:30 PM

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I was researching the ORIGINAL UHR $20 Saint made originally (Roman Numerals OF MCMVII) FOR 1907. Only 22 were made and two of THOSE were destroyed. So we had 20. These were struck with NINE blows of the DIE for the same EFFECT we now have on the 2009 redo. Price would really be HIGH on these! Around $3,000,000.00 in 2005 for a Heritage auction price. They doubled the money supply since then SO If you could even find ONE that is!

Then later they made a HR variety (about half the UHR coins "INSIDE figure height" on the strike) minting some 12,387 pieces (per 2009 US Coins- Yeoman) with only FIVE blows of the DIE! They were made with dirrerent types of dies. Retail price for a MS68 is NOW about $280,000.00 US smackers.

So if our BUDDY RODZM guesstimate is correct we'll have up to nine times more of the NEW UHR 2009 Eagles than we had of the (lower) High Relief Saints made in 1907. And possibly only 6 ot 7 times more.

DYODD

But perhaps this might be something to keep. I know I will keep 'em.

PS later on they made a business strike Saint 1907 regular number dated for some 361,667 coins minted - MS67 retails for $46,000.00 while the MS63 is around $2,300.00 - it's the first coin of the series that's somewhat affordable. Below the date is St. Gauden's monogram - which gave me a kick because I wondered what is was for over 15 years. Please remember this was supposed to be the MOST beautiful coin ever made since BEFORE the LORD Jesus Christ. Think GREEK coins of Alexander the Great 300 B.C. era.

This might be a real good investment - who KNOWS - as the 2009 UHR First strike MS70 costs around the same as a 1907 MS63 Saint - but now you DO! :36_3_12:

Best wishes,

HS

Gordon Gekko 04-11-2009 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1672947)
Well considering that in the 1st day there were only 29,000 blanks available and over 47,000 orders placed it seems like the mint may be on pace to a mintage of less than 100K perhaps around 75K would be more realistic.

Let's hope so. I pray they don't mint these things into oblivion.

Gordon Gekko 04-11-2009 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1672974)
I was researching the ORIGINAL UHR $20 Saint made originally (Roman Numerals OF MCMVII) FOR 1907. Only 22 were made and two of THOSE were destroyed. So we had 20. These were struck with NINE blows of the DIE for the same EFFECT we now have on the 2009 redo. Price would really be HIGH on these! Around $3,000,000.00 in 2005 for a Heritage auction price. They doubled the money supply since then SO If you could even find ONE that is!

Then later they made a HR variety (about half the UHR coins "INSIDE figure height" on the strike) minting some 12,387 pieces (per 2009 US Coins- Yeoman) with only FIVE blows of the DIE! They were made with dirrerent types of dies. Retail price for a MS68 is NOW about $280,000.00 US smackers.

So if our BUDDY RODZM guesstimate is correct we'll have up to nine times more of the NEW UHR 2009 Eagles than we had of the (lower) High Relief Saints made in 1907. And possibly only 6 ot 7 times more.

DYODD

But perhaps this might be something to keep. I know I will keep 'em.

PS later on they made a business strike Saint 1907 regular number dated for some 361,667 coins minted - MS67 retails for $46,000.00 while the MS63 is around $2,300.00 - it's the first coin of the series that's somewhat affordable. Below the date is St. Gauden's monogram - which gave me a kick because I wondered what is was for over 15 years. Please remember this was supposed to be the MOST beautiful coin ever made since BEFORE the LORD Jesus Christ. Think GREEK coins of Alexander the Great 300 B.C. era.

This might be a real good investment - who KNOWS - as the 2009 UHR First strike MS70 costs around the same as a 1907 MS63 Saint - but now you DO! :36_3_12:

Best wishes,

HS


Thanks for the analysis HS. I always look forward to your posts. IMO, it WILL be a good investment. But, only time will tell. I am never going to sell this one.

Manager Mr 04-11-2009 03:03 PM

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[QUOTE= :4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72: Now, I gotta hide the BILLING from the Darling Wife again!

Another fine MESS I got myself into too.[/QUOTE]

wow thats sounds like me... hide that billing from the wife, if she finds out:goodnight:goodnight

rodzm 04-11-2009 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1672991)
Let's hope so. I pray they don't mint these things into oblivion.

Well maybe if they stop making those ugly spouse coins...I dont think people realize that with the current economic conditions and the pricetag on UHRs that there will not be a high mintage on them. Really people, wake up and buy yours before its too late

I really hope people start to get wise with these UHRs and realize that they will be in high demand once they stop making them.

If there is any indication of mintage on coins due to the current economic conditions please take into account the newest territory quarter...Puerto Rico.

Only 86 million were struck at Denver while 53 million were struck at Philadelphia and by the way production ceased way before they were released into circulation, this was all due to the current economic conditions. Think about it that not even every citizen will be able to own one

I dont know but if common coinage is getting the axe and are getting low numbers what makes people think that UHRs will be any different.

Just sayin'....

Knight Rider 04-11-2009 03:19 PM

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Just a few questions about the UHR, how often are these made? I don't see any made in 07/08. Are these a new style?

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 03:19 PM

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Plus about 7 in-depth pages of infomation JUST on this first PATTERN coin - and we can BUY one (more if you are fixed with dough - and have a few brains) from the MINT now.


If you go to amazon.com
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Best wishes,

GOOD HUNTING for the TROPHY COIN par excellence

call 1-800-USA-MINT! :wink::111:

rodzm 04-11-2009 03:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1673009)
Just a few questions about the UHR, how often are these made? I don't see any made in 07/08. Are these a new style?



This is it buddy, 2009 will be the only year they make them unless the mint thinks theyre a hit and we'll get UHRs every year, but I doubt it.

It has been over 100 years in the making so it is worth picking up. Hell I picked up two of them on credit and Im almost done paying one of them and the second Ill get finished paying it within the next few months

Do it before its too late

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1673009)
Just a few questions about the UHR, how often are these made? I don't see any made in 07/08. Are these a new style?

Twice once in 1907 with 22 total coins worth about Guess - FIVE MILLION US DOLLARS each now.

and ONLY this year 2009 - rationed off so few will be made.

ONCE is YOUR LIFETIME for JUST ONE YEAR - frankly I think some crisis will hit - and then all PM coins cease from being MINTED.

95% are GONE today already!

Try to buy a NUMISMATIC 2009 Gold Eagle from the mint in any form of the old 2008 four; or a gold Buffalo in any form of the 2008 four; or a proof of those eight coins all gone; or a platinum coin in proof or mint state all eight are NOW gone from the MINTING process that we had all eight in 2008; or a silver Eagle proof - all those coins are kaput zero nada no mas BYE-BYE alf-viedersehn ZIP finished killed dead morte - I hope you get that! I did not mean to be caustic - only trying to make a BIG point.

The US mint is just making the quick coins for the big plastic boxes and they can't keep up with the demand - so they have forgotten the mission of serving the public in NUMISMATICS - that's the BOTTOM LINE. The NUMISMATIC coins take extra steps and they make more money on the BIG GREEN BOXES of gold and silver MS state coins given out via RATION to their special five dealers.


Knight Rider 04-11-2009 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1673020)
This is it buddy, 2009 will be the only year they make them unless the mint thinks theyre a hit and we'll get UHRs every year, but I doubt it.

It has been over 100 years in the making so it is worth picking up. Hell I picked up two of them on credit and Im almost done paying one of them and the second Ill get finished paying it within the next few months

Do it before its too late

Thanks rodzm. It's tempting, too bad the Canadian dollar has lost strength against the American dollar recently.

I've seen some of the coins selling on eBay for crazy amounts. Is there anything "special" with these coins compared to the ones the mint is shipping out today.

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1672995)
wow thats sounds like me... hide that billing from the wife, if she finds out:goodnight:goodnight

I had a huge BELLY LAUGH out of you SMILE with the BURIAL PLOT.

That was ONE I missed. Seems that way this year with the coldest winter I've ever seen - hard to excerise outside is so DARN cold.

I laughed at the thought too!

Best wishes,

HS :36_3_12:

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1673020)
This is it buddy, 2009 will be the only year they make them unless the mint thinks theyre a hit and we'll get UHRs every year, but I doubt it.

It has been over 100 years in the making so it is worth picking up. Hell I picked up two of them on credit and Im almost done paying one of them and the second Ill get finished paying it within the next few months

Do it before its too late

500 coins per DIE "ain't" a big LONG term selling point to the US Mint when 95% of their numismatics were cancelled because of extra steps - these coins take a FEW strikes on a quickly 500 DIEING (pun intended!) DIE!

Hat off to YOU! :applause_:applause_:applause_

Frankly in my LIFETIME (and I'm OLDER born in WWII) this is ONE coin I would get from the MINT ASAP - if I had to BEG BORROW or STEAL the money. I think it's that good LONG term. I really don't know - but it really seems to me things could COME to a QUICK halt on this coin. That's why when they cancelled me twice recently I went to the the RELATIVES to order for me - and EBAY for a QUICKIE!


Now are there any LOAN SHARKS out there?

Knight Rider 04-11-2009 03:50 PM

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Ok, so I went on eBay and found a few example auctions:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2009-ULTRA-HIGH-R...|39:1|240:1318
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2009-Ultra-High-R...|39:1|240:1318

If I bought one, had it graded and got MS70, is there anything from stopping it from selling on eBay for that amount? Or is there something different on those ones.

rodzm 04-11-2009 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1673035)
500 coins per DIE "ain't" a big LONG term selling point to the US Mint when 95% of their numismatics were cancelled because of extra steps - these coins take a FEW strikes on a quickly 500 DIEING (pun intended!) DIE!

Hat off to YOU! :applause_:applause_:applause_

Frankly in my LIFETIME (and I'm OLDER born in WWII) this is ONE coin I would get from the MINT ASAP - if I had to BEG BORROW or STEAL the money. I think it's that good LONG term. I really don't know - but it really seems to me things could COME to a QUICK halt on this coin. That's why when they cancelled me twice recently I went to the the RELATIVES to order for me - and EBAY for a QUICKIE!


Now are there any LOAN SHARKS out there?

Math doesnt lie and according to the latest order numbers about 100 dies have been used already...lets say the mint still has 100 more dies and youre looking at a minting of 100,000. Add to that the blank shortages and the trouble they are having with gold supplies and you may be looking at a mintage of less than 75,000.

Think about it...29,000 blanks for the first 29,000 orders and they still had to fulfill 18,000 more which they were able to fulfill probably the first couple weeks of March. That means the mintage right now is probably 50-60,000.

Lets say the mint fulfills 10,000 UHR orders per month until end of year and you will still get a mintage of about 130,000. No way in hell the mint is fulfilling 10,000 UHRs per month in the current economic conditions

Thats aboutthe going prices and its just the start, wait another year and youre looking at $3,500 for it....and thats not taking into account if gold goes to 1,000+

Knight Rider 04-11-2009 04:01 PM

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Damn you guys. Stop now or you're going to make me order one.

rodzm 04-11-2009 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1673070)
Damn you guys. Stop now or you're going to make me order one.


Just remember these words which I have painstakingly lived for the past few motnhs.

"Hindsight is everything"

Whats the worst that can happen???? You loosing the premium??? Not in a million years as this coin will always sell for some sort of premium even if it is the premium set by the mint of $340-$389. So even if gold drops to 700 you will still be able to sell it in the $1,000-1100 range losing only $139 if you were to buy today. We all know gold is not going to drop below 700 with the current economy

There is nothing to lose really...and you will never be able to buy this coin anywhere near spot

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 07:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1673085)
Just remember these words which I have painstakingly lived for the past few motnhs.

"Hindsight is everything"

Whats the worst that can happen???? You loosing the premium??? Not in a million years as this coin will always sell for some sort of premium even if it is the premium set by the mint of $340-$389. So even if gold drops to 700 you will still be able to sell it in the $1,000-1100 range losing only $139 if you were to buy today. We all know gold is not going to drop below 700 with the current economy

There is nothing to lose really...and you will never be able to buy this coin anywhere near spot


I was following a NGC MS70PL translation NGC slabbed coin in MS70 graded condition with PROOK LIKE qualities -


Darn thing went for $3,600 today - 36 HUNDRED dollars - boy, I wonder if this is a sign of the times. I'm a cheapskate - I bid $1,700 and LOST!

:111::111:


Can't steal anything anymore. It's a darn shame it is!

:signs14:

Buyingsilvers 04-11-2009 08:08 PM

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dammit. now you guys are making me want to go out and buy another!

Looks like the spot price of gold is 5% lower than it was last week wednesday. Hopefully it'll stay weak until this wednesday, giving a slight discount when the price adjusts.

http://www.kitco.com/LFgif//auapr09.gif

--------


What do they mean by "prooflike"? The fields are very polished looking? If that's the case, my first one is definately not "prooflike". :hissyfit_m:

Buyingsilvers 04-11-2009 08:24 PM

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BTW, speaking of sales, I've run across this. Not sure how accurate it is.

2009 Ultra High Relief Sales History
Date Total Sales Change
1/26/2009 40,727

2/8/2009 45,420 +4,693
2/16/2009 47,999 +2,579
2/22/2009 49,788 +1,789
3/1/2009 51,398 +1,610
3/9/2009 52,373 +975


http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...ble-eagle.html

Buyingsilvers 04-11-2009 08:35 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=130299030434

Interesting auction. Strikethrough error, although supposedly a small error. The pics aren't good enough to see it. I'd be curious to see what type of premium it would command.

Merlin 04-11-2009 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1662614)
Those of you who ordered (and received) more than one UHR (ordered with the same account/address/etc.) must be very lucky. I ordered my second one earlier this week, and my order was canceled a couple of days later for no reason. :s15:

So, I'm just asking. Does anyone know why the mint would cancel an order "for no reason"?

Has this happened to a lot of people?

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1673383)
So, I'm just asking. Does anyone know why the mint would cancel an order "for no reason"?

Has this happened to a lot of people?

Yeah. They only LET you have ONE UHR coin per address per family I believe - but if you are really sneaky...

Use your TRUSTED relative friend and have them order it for you and pay them off later when they charge their card... That's what I have to do NOW!
:playingba:playingba:playingba

HistoryStudent 04-11-2009 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buyingsilvers (Post 1673300)
BTW, speaking of sales, I've run across this. Not sure how accurate it is.

2009 Ultra High Relief Sales History
Date Total Sales Change
1/26/2009 40,727

2/8/2009 45,420 +4,693
2/16/2009 47,999 +2,579
2/22/2009 49,788 +1,789
3/1/2009 51,398 +1,610
3/9/2009 52,373 +975


http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/200...ble-eagle.html

Really glad to see your post. We were all wondering what the POSSIBLES were - this might be rather accurate.

Thanks again. :36_3_12:

Looks like they are losing STEAM on sales. Interesting. That means the FAD issue will deflate a BIT on EBAY so those of you who are set
MIGHT wait a tad (for the FAD to die) for a better deal. I'm seeing a slight decrease in sales prices. A NEW MINT Package today went for $1485 with the BOOK!
I was WATCHING it!

Also for those that care. This UHR Double Eagle was a REDO. It seems that two 1907 28MM diameter Eagles LIE in the SMITHSONIAN the Nation's Atic - which were St. Gauden's FIRST
try at doing the JOB from the Liberties $20 size. He doubled a TEN dollar size and MADE two that are in the ATIC now. So the new MINT just did a REDO on the prior with more advanced DIES and PRESSES.

It is funny how government always stays the course one-way-or-another.

Best wishes,

HS

PS imagine having one of the two in the Smithsonian - you can when you order a 2009 UHR - that's a BIG COOL!

I did some more research on the ORIGINAL 1907 COIN which is an exact copy of the 2009 coin except for the DATE. They made 20 of these and melted them down leaving only the TWO now in the SMITHSONIAN atic of America. Also this 1907 COIN (pattern: that means wasn't a regular issued coin) is LISTED as "ONE OF THE 100 BEST American Coins." Dad at 85 just called for one for mom; his second, and they told him ONLY one per HOUSEHOLD. Got YOURS?

Also today 4-13 got an email for my 1-22 order that the small book shipped out today.

Hope that helps you - I ordered around 2:00 p.m. two hours after the "OKLAHOMA UHR LAND RUSH" cannon going off. I felt like Tom Cruise in "Far and Away" on the same type horse - the PERKY one - not the dead one.


HistoryStudent 04-13-2009 09:24 PM

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Bump.

Sorry :signs14::111:


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Merlin 04-13-2009 09:51 PM

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I finally ordered an UHR on 4/10 and my online order receipt says that the product ship date is 2009-04-16. How reasonable is that expectation in light of the thread title?

Second question, if the dies only last for 500 coins, what meaning does a first strike designation based on date have?

Coltwind 04-15-2009 01:25 AM

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I was wanting to know if anyone else is experencing order cancellations? I've ordered and received my first coins and the following orders have been cancelled.

rodzm 04-15-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltwind (Post 1678182)
I was wanting to know if anyone else is experencing order cancellations? I've ordered and received my first coins and the following orders have been cancelled.


I believe History Student has experienced a similar situation. Seems like the mint has cought onto people buying multiple coins. In any case you may want to try getting a family member to order it for you

Manager Mr 04-15-2009 02:06 AM

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It's got to be some kind of sickness, just ordered my 5th UHRDE...

I keep telling myself I can stop after this one, right HistoryStudent

Oh God! I'm not turning into a numismatis.:cry1:

esoteric 04-15-2009 06:35 AM

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I just put an order through the mint but when I logged into my account it said "order on hold". Anyone know what this means? Still shipping for the 16th????

diversified2 04-15-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1678337)
I just put an order through the mint but when I logged into my account it said "order on hold". Anyone know what this means? Still shipping for the 16th????

You should be okay they always list it as "On Hold" while they are waiting to process the order. You will know when it hits your CC account that they are getting ready to ship. Also the cancel button will disapper when you sign in to check on your order...you will know for sure it's getting ready to ship...Hope that helps!!!

rodzm 04-15-2009 10:07 AM

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Has anybody noticed that Miss Liberty on the UHR actually has an innie as opposed to an outie....you know her belly button is noticeable if you look closely.

Its funny cause my wife was the one who pointed it out to me. Couldnt believe it but sure enough she has an innie belly button

HistoryStudent 04-15-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1678210)
It's got to be some kind of sickness, just ordered my 5th UHRDE...

I keep telling myself I can stop after this one, right HistoryStudent

Oh God! I'm not turning into a numismatis.:cry1:

I'm so JEALOUS I could just "SPIT!" :thumb.aspx:

Just Kidding.

I can't think of a better investment both numismatically and in gold. A double bangers so to speak. :yes:

I'm working on another one myself.

Best wishes;

HS

HistoryStudent 04-15-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1678520)
Has anybody noticed that Miss Liberty on the UHR actually has an innie as opposed to an outie....you know her belly button is noticeable if you look closely.

Its funny cause my wife was the one who pointed it out to me. Couldnt believe it but sure enough she has an innie belly button

Now YOU done it. I have to get out old betsy my 30 to 60 power lighted microscope and check it out. :Surrender::signs14::111:

EE_ 04-15-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1678520)
Has anybody noticed that Miss Liberty on the UHR actually has an innie as opposed to an outie....you know her belly button is noticeable if you look closely.

Its funny cause my wife was the one who pointed it out to me. Couldnt believe it but sure enough she has an innie belly button

Is that your coin?
If it is, hang on to it or get it graded! It looks like a wire rim, and I've not seen one in the UHR's before.
Can I make an offer on it?

HistoryStudent 04-15-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1678185)
I believe History Student has experienced a similar situation. Seems like the mint has cought onto people buying multiple coins. In any case you may want to try getting a family member to order it for you

The SAD rule is only one coin allowed to an address and a household.

Imagine if a houshold (now with many living together) had, say, four coin collectors. I think that rule could cause "MUCH HARM to one of the four," right?

:thinkey::dontknow::fight::stupid::boxing::aetsch: :haha::haha::haha:

esoteric 04-15-2009 10:22 AM

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cheers:coolbeer:

hope I still make the 16th......

Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1678400)
You should be okay they always list it as "On Hold" while they are waiting to process the order. You will know when it hits your CC account that they are getting ready to ship. Also the cancel button will disapper when you sign in to check on your order...you will know for sure it's getting ready to ship...Hope that helps!!!


Knight Rider 04-15-2009 07:11 PM

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Seems they updated their shipping date:

Product will be available for shipping 06/24/2009

Merlin 04-15-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1679415)
Seems they updated their shipping date:

Product will be available for shipping 06/24/2009

They updated their web site Product Ship Date just today. Does that apply only to new orders placed today and after? Or does that also apply to all orders not yet filled even though they may have been placed a week or two ago? I can't view the status of my order for some reason, even though I got an Online Order Receipt on 4/10/2009.

C&L 1911 04-15-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1679489)
They updated their web site Product Ship Date just today. Does that apply only to new orders placed today and after? Or does that also apply to all orders not yet filled even though they may have been placed a week or two ago? I can't view the status of my order for some reason, even though I got an Online Order Receipt on 4/10/2009.

My pending order was also pushed back from 4/16 to 6/24, so I'm guessing it affects all (or most) pending orders. However, it doesn't mean those orders couldn't ship sooner.

Merlin 04-16-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1679504)
My pending order was also pushed back from 4/16 to 6/24, so I'm guessing it affects all (or most) pending orders. However, it doesn't mean those orders couldn't ship sooner.

As of 17:00 4/16, the charge is showing pending on my credit card. Maybe they really are going to ship it!

C&L 1911 04-16-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1680949)
As of 17:00 4/16, the charge is showing pending on my credit card. Maybe they really are going to ship it!

I can't tell if there is a pending charge on my card yet, but my order has changed from yesterday's "backordered until 6/24" to "In stock and reserved" today. :biggrin:

Merlin 04-16-2009 07:30 PM

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The outrageous thing about my ordering the UHR Eagle is that I really can't afford it, LOL. Oh, in the grand scheme of things I can. But paying my credit card off in full this coming month, as is my habit, is going to be a real challenge. Going to have to pinch some pennies somewhere. But I wanted this coin, damn it!

Turner-son 04-16-2009 08:35 PM

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Has anyone actually received more than one directly from the mint? I see guys saying they've ordered four or five but not specifying if from ebay or the mint and if they've actually received that many.

Thanks.

HistoryStudent 04-16-2009 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1678520)
Has anybody noticed that Miss Liberty on the UHR actually has an innie as opposed to an outie....you know her belly button is noticeable if you look closely.

Its funny cause my wife was the one who pointed it out to me. Couldnt believe it but sure enough she has an innie belly button

That is an absolutely beautiful picture. I pulled out my 20 to 40 power lighted dual microscope for my UHRs: and frankly your picture is better than what I could see.

All have the BELLY BUTTON however.

Frankly, I wonder how many more they will make. I really don't see them finishing out the entrie year - but, I am NO PROPHET - it's just a GUT feeling.

Sorry. :36_3_12:

EE_ 04-17-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1681225)
That is an absolutely beautiful picture. I pulled out my 20 to 40 power lighted dual microscope for my UHRs: and frankly your picture is better than what I could see.

All have the BELLY BUTTON however.

Frankly, I wonder how many more they will make. I really don't see them finishing out the entrie year - but, I am NO PROPHET - it's just a GUT feeling.

Sorry. :36_3_12:

I'd still like to know if that is Rodzm's coin.
I might consider trading an MS70 First Strike for it.

Regarding the belly button...there are some out there with a missing BB.
NGC has graded one and only one coin with a strike through error.
on the reverse. Lady liberty was struck through the eagle feathers.
Watch for errors!

BoatingAccident 04-17-2009 01:31 AM

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Hi everyone, first post here.

Thanks for all the information in this thread, it prompted me to go out and order this coin. I ordered it a few days ago. This is my first numismatic coin.

I have a question, it seems the value of this coin is much higher through ebay, and such. My original idea was to get the coin, get it graded through pcgs, then flip the coin for a profit. Then use the profit to by more bullion...in hopes of not losing it in another boating accident.

Now, I'm wondering if it may be better to hang on to it (providing I actually get the coin).

Is it for certain that the mint will only make this coin for 2009? If the mint keeps minting them, wouldn't this coin be overvalued?

What do you all think the possible premium could be on this coin in the long run?

Thanks, I'm fairly new to all this, so I hope these questions do not sound too ignorant.

rodzm 04-17-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1681488)
I'd still like to know if that is Rodzm's coin.
I might consider trading an MS70 First Strike for it.

Regarding the belly button...there are some out there with a missing BB.
NGC has graded one and only one coin with a strike through error.
on the reverse. Lady liberty was struck through the eagle feathers.
Watch for errors!


Sorry guys...it was actually an Ebay auction which I could not find after you guys mentioned the possible error.

EE_ 04-17-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1681584)
Sorry guys...it was actually an Ebay auction which I could not find after you guys mentioned the possible error.

Too bad, I would have been ecstatic to open mine to find that coin.
Do you notice the wire rim or knife edge as they call it?
Definitely is not a flat rim coin. It should be a rare variety.

rodzm 04-17-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1681600)
Too bad, I would have been ecstatic to open mine to find that coin.
Do you notice the wire rim or knife edge as they call it?
Definitely is not a flat rim coin. It should be a rare variety.


Oh I def notice it but I don't remember if it was a raw coin or if it was graded. If it was graded then its possible that the knife edge could be as a result of the packaging. It sucks that I couldn't find it again, perhaps somebody scoured Ebay for the coin after it was noticed

GypsyHustler 04-18-2009 07:56 PM

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When you sign into your account what does the status say for your coin? Mine says In stock and reserved. I also ordered last week. Anyone got shipment confirmation yet?

HistoryStudent 04-18-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1681572)
Hi everyone, first post here.

There is never any STUPID questions herein. But allow us a little levity please.
Thanks for all the information in this thread, it prompted me to go out and order this coin. I ordered it a few days ago. This is my first numismatic coin.

I have a question, it seems the value of this coin is much higher through ebay, and such. My original idea was to get the coin, get it graded through pcgs, then flip the coin for a profit. Then use the profit to by more bullion...in hopes of not losing it in another boating accident.

Now, I'm wondering if it may be better to hang on to it (providing I actually get the coin).

Is it for certain that the mint will only make this coin for 2009? If the mint keeps minting them, wouldn't this coin be overvalued?

What do you all think the possible premium could be on this coin in the long run?

Thanks, I'm fairly new to all this, so I hope these questions do not sound too ignorant.

If there was one coin in my collection I would keep it would be this UHR 2009. Period.

We will know when the GOVERNMENT tells us what they did are doing or have done. Period.


If you just took three or four hours you'd understand what a deal this MIGHT turn out to be. However, if you are one-minute too late - you can go to the Government College in Egypt - called FARUK U. So don't deny it.

And "denial" ain't a river in Egypt either. :5_1_120:

Having some fun for making the point. :signs14::yes:

BoatingAccident 04-18-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1684234)
If there was one coin in my collection I would keep it would be this UHR 2009. Period.

We will know when the GOVERNMENT tells us what they did are doing or have done. Period.


If you just took three or four hours you'd understand what a deal this MIGHT turn out to be. However, if you are one-minute too late - you can go to the Government College in Egypt - called FARUK U. So don't deny it.

And "denial" ain't a river in Egypt either. :5_1_120:

Having some fun for making the point. :signs14::yes:


HistoryStudent, thanks for your reply. I am new to all this, but I just don't trust the government. I could see them pulling a fast one on us.

For some reason, I could see them minting this coin in 2010, and beyond, and turning it into some high priced bullion, like the gold buffalo. Reeping the profits from the premium, and the hype.

But, if they don't, this beautiful coin could be quite the addition to the collection. I really hope I get it. The order is in. The question I need to decide on, is to have it graded or not through pcgs.

Thanks again, for your advise, and your response.

1981 04-19-2009 11:03 AM

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You guys still talking about this thing? :sleep: I put mine back in the box and stuck it on a shelf. It appears I really just wanted it cause the original hype made me think they would be super rare. Now it's old hat, put in your order for your tenth one and it gets here tomorrow etc. etc. Maybe it will show some potential in a year or two, but I think the household limit will come off soon and they'll be paving the streets with'em in no time.

HistoryStudent 04-19-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1684249)
HistoryStudent, thanks for your reply. I am new to all this, but I just don't trust the government. I could see them pulling a fast one on us.

I really don't think so. They only get 500 coins per die. And striking them many times versus OUNCE - like they did the originals 1908 -1933 in LOW relief as Saints is much more cost effective (like the AGE which they just strike once and sell in the monster boxes at 7 times what they did in 2007! (and MAKE no more numismatic gold silver platinum coins per se) ; that's my main guess why this will end QUICKLY after all it started in March for delivery instead of Jan. 1st as planned. It's not really trust - it's more like cost management and money cost effectiveness. Sorry.

For some reason, I could see them minting this coin in 2010, and beyond, and turning it into some high priced bullion, like the gold buffalo. Reeping the profits from the premium, and the hype.


As above.

But, if they don't, this beautiful coin could be quite the addition to the collection. I really hope I get it. The order is in. The question I need to decide on, is to have it graded or not through pcgs.

Grab as many as you can - they can be walked through the grading system later - or in the boxes they MIGHT bring more. After all the 1907 to 1932 Saints really picked up in price and activness since the UHR release - kinda like what the quarters did to coin collecting overall (really raised up the new collectors to the hobby). Kinda.

Thanks again, for your advise, and your response.

Frankly if I had just 10,000 dollars and NO other gold coin in the world - I'd have 7.6 of these coins. Don't ask about the .6
:111::111::111:
it was to make a point.


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HistoryStudent 04-19-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1684770)
You guys still talking about this thing? :sleep: I put mine back in the box and stuck it on a shelf. It appears I really just wanted it cause the original hype made me think they would be super rare. Now it's old hat, put in your order for your tenth one and it gets here tomorrow etc. etc. Maybe it will show some potential in a year or two, but I think the household limit will come off soon and they'll be paving the streets with'em in no time.

I hope so. Too. But like the Buddy Holly song, "That'll Be The Day"

(That I die!) :signs14::yes::111::111:

I'll buy yours for $2,000 when they are going for $10,000

Okay? ha ha ha

Gordon Gekko 04-20-2009 08:52 AM

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It's about time that darn book ships...

HistoryStudent 04-20-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1685757)
It's about time that darn book ships...

They are slow they are.

:thumb.aspx:

Gordon Gekko 04-20-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1685796)
They are slow they are.

:thumb.aspx:

That's an understatement.

Apocalypto 04-20-2009 03:23 PM

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Mr. Gekko, I picked up my book today. Hang in there. UPS should be arriving this week.

smyles 04-20-2009 03:32 PM

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I received the book last week. Ordered the first day.

Gordon Gekko 04-20-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1686234)
Mr. Gekko, I picked up my book today. Hang in there. UPS should be arriving this week.

Yea, I got a shipping confirmation the other day. Should be here somtime this week. How big is the book?

HistoryStudent 04-20-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1686362)
Yea, I got a shipping confirmation the other day. Should be here somtime this week. How big is the book?

58 pages or so...

Gilt edged...

Could fit in the shipping box on top of the RED Box...

So it's kinda cute...

I like this one better...

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Dou.../9780393059496

buy it cheaper on Amazon.com

It was really a fun read.

:getdown::getdown:

esoteric 04-21-2009 02:53 AM

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they put the charge to my credit card today......hopefully they start shipping.

Merlin 04-21-2009 07:17 AM

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An email arrived at 10:07 last night confirming the shipment of my UHR. Hurray!

HistoryStudent 04-21-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1687215)
An email arrived at 10:07 last night confirming the shipment of my UHR. Hurray!

Hold it CLOSE DEAR and QUIETLY.

Darn thing may easily go up five times.

:wink::yes:

BoatingAccident 04-21-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1687784)
Hold it CLOSE DEAR and QUIETLY.

Darn thing may easily go up five times.

:wink::yes:

HS, do you recommend we get these things graded? Via pcgs.

I've got one on order, has yet to arrive. Hopefully it will. I was just wondering if it was worth sending in to get slabbed or not..

HistoryStudent 04-21-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1687822)
HS, do you recommend we get these things graded? Via pcgs.

I've got one on order, has yet to arrive. Hopefully it will. I was just wondering if it was worth sending in to get slabbed or not..

If you have ONE leave it in the box and sit on it.

Same with number two.

Same with number three.

But, when you hit number four - pick the best one and GO for a MS70.
PCGS has a slight edge over NGC - join PCGS and hopefully send in their four of five gold coins (if you have some really nice other coins go for the one shot deal - and include your BEST pick UHR too.) for slabbing including YOUR best PICK UHR. That's mainly for your humble pride. And it's fun to have one PURRR-FECT (Like the Gal in Shrek, right - and the little prince called her PURRR-FECT!) coin in the stable when you want to impress yourself. Held CLOSELY QUIETLY AND VERY DEARLY! The reason I say this is that if you investigate the coin itself you'd realize that you hold the best coin made in 2,000 years and some are MS70 - get it?

Frankly, in the grand scheme of things you are almost guaranteed to get MS69 or MS70 (99.8%) so you really don't need it graded at all. That's why less than 3,000 of the 58,000 or so have been graded to date.

Those other 50,000 PLUS thousand to DATE would easily grade in the same percentage - from a statistically POINT of view, right?

When will they cut off all sales, too? :36_3_12:

THERE is something else. usually with the .9999 gold coins the Early Releases graded out NUMBER the regular graded coins like in MS70
(I.E. US 1 oz. Buffalos 2006 to 2008) anywhere from 10 ER to 1 REG down to about 7 ER to 1 REG - HOWEVER, the REGULAR UHRs today "already outnumber the Early Releases."

So perhaps one may want an NGC early release or PCGS first strike - I really don't know - but the "odds are looking good right now" like the last TOM CRUISE line in "TOP GUN!"


PCGS is running about 1,000 REG to 1,500 First Strikes. They'll catch up in a few weeks perhaps - like NGC did already and then passed the early releases.

The coin graders have made a MINT by this new TAG; usually with the above figures did not make me want one TOO much: HOWEVER, I wonder if this might be something to think about.

I really did.

The super big real issue is that the constant making of new fiat by all the worlds' central bankers at "around a doubling every few years NOW" PUTS a tremendous floor under the price of the
precious metals as they are the only thing of intrinsic worth that they can't print until the cows come home to the door left left open at the world's biggest barn full of you-know-what.

Boy is that a run-on sentence.

Merlin 04-21-2009 09:16 PM

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I checked the UPS tracking info on my coin. Apparently the US Mint Fulfillment Center is in Plainfield, IN. I live in NW Indiana and my coin, which was picked up by UPS this afternoon, is scheduled to be delivered to my doorstep tomorrow. If that, in fact, is what happens it will be a total of 12 days from order to delivery. In light of the thread title, that's more than a little amusing. Oh happy day.

HistoryStudent 04-21-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1688311)
I checked the UPS tracking info on my coin. Apparently the US Mint Fulfillment Center is in Plainfield, IN. I live in NW Indiana and my coin, which was picked up by UPS this afternoon, is scheduled to be delivered to my doorstep tomorrow. If that, in fact, is what happens it will be a total of 12 days from order to delivery. In light of the thread title, that's more than a little amusing. Oh happy day.

They are real busy cancelling different cheesy folks like me twice! :111::111::111::111:

I'm going to change my name to "Sneaky get Even Steven:" wanna make a quick $100 bucks?

Send it to me C.O.D. and add the $100.00!

rodzm 04-22-2009 01:58 AM

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My book shipped yipeeeeee

Gordon Gekko 04-22-2009 08:07 AM

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Received the book yesterday and am really impressed. The combination of a historic coin + amazing mint packaging + really neat book = a happy Gordon Gekko who doesn't mind paying a little "extra", if you will.

esoteric 04-22-2009 08:47 AM

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anyone know if message means they will ship soon or has it already been shipped?
Order Status: Your order request is in process.

Gordon Gekko 04-22-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1688860)
anyone know if message means they will ship soon or has it already been shipped?
Order Status: Your order request is in process.

Definitely means it will be shipping sooner than if your order was "still on hold". Whenever you get your UPS tracking number, then you'll know you're in business.:565:

esoteric 04-22-2009 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1688894)
Definitely means it will be shipping sooner than if your order was "still on hold". Whenever you get your UPS tracking number, then you'll know you're in business.:565:

cheers.

got the charge on the credit card a few days ago so thats hope they get things rolling.....

Gordon Gekko 04-22-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1688911)
cheers.

got the charge on the credit card a few days ago so thats hope they get things rolling.....

Yes, sounds like it should be at your doorstep very soon. Once they charged my credit card, I think it took < 1 week to get it.

Merlin 04-22-2009 01:44 PM

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The UPS driver handed me my coin this morning (minus the book.) Those books are in such short supply that, even though they're shipping them to people who ordered early, they still aren't including them with newly shipped coins.

Manager Mr 04-22-2009 01:52 PM

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My 5th UHRDE... just arrived:biggrin:

"THIS BABY HAS GOT TO BE A PROOF" definitely proof like.

For what it's worth the Mint is not keeping to one household per coin limit.

I did use a diff c/c , E-mail, & phone number each time, but the same name & address.

HistoryStudent 04-22-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1689303)
The UPS driver handed me my coin this morning (minus the book.) Those books are in such short supply that, even though they're shipping them to people who ordered early, they still aren't including them with newly shipped coins.

Right NOW they are not shipping them with the new orders: a few weeks ago they did.

People complained: things changed.

I've received one with the coin and one backordered from 2:00 p.m. first day.

Manager MR = thanks I clicked your THANKS box too. They (mint) took it and emailed me back already. You'll really fine honed this thing - we were on the same wave LENGTH -
you were definately ONE step ahead! That's TWO thank YOUs!

:36_3_12:

HistoryStudent 04-22-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1689405)
Right NOW they are not shipping them with the new orders: a few weeks ago they did.

People complained: things changed.

I've received one with the coin and one backordered from 2:00 p.m. first day.

Manager MR = thanks I clicked your THANKS box too. They (mint) took it and emailed me back already. You'll really fine honed this thing - we were on the same wave LENGTH -
you were definately ONE step ahead! That's TWO thank YOUs!

The FUNNY thing is that a LOT of people don't KNOW they made two of these UHR small double think Eagles way back in 1907. Each one would be worth 2 to 3 million each right now; if the Nations atic (The SMITHsonian) would release them. Frankly 9maybe just to me) They are actually better than the ten INDIVIDUAL (US made from legal to illegal tender) 1933 Saints the Treasury seized back in
2005. The grandson of the original owner found them in his shop with his mother and they asked the US Mint to verify them. The grandson worked with his mom in granddad's 80 year-old coin store. Frankly these are like a Lay's Potato Chip - YOU GOTTA own more than ONE! :wink::yes:



:36_3_12:


The FUNNY thing is that a LOT of people don't KNOW they made two of these back in 1907. Each one would be worth 2 to 3 million each right now. They are actually better than the ten INDIVIDUAL 1933 Saints the Treasury seized back in 2005. The grandson of the original owner found them in his shop with his mother and they asked the US Mint to verify them. (Real smart) The grandson worked with his mom in granddad's 80 year-old coin store. Frankly these are like a Lay's Potato Chip - YOU GOTTA own more than ONE! :wink::yes:

BoatingAccident 04-22-2009 11:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1688116)
If you have ONE leave it in the box and sit on it.

Same with number two.

Same with number three.

But, when you hit number four - pick the best one and GO for a MS70.
PCGS has a slight edge over NGC - join PCGS and hopefully send in their four of five gold coins (if you have some really nice other coins go for the one shot deal - and include your BEST pick UHR too.) for slabbing including YOUR best PICK UHR. That's mainly for your humble pride. And it's fun to have one PURRR-FECT (Like the Gal in Shrek, right - and the little prince called her PURRR-FECT!) coin in the stable when you want to impress yourself. Held CLOSELY QUIETLY AND VERY DEARLY! The reason I say this is that if you investigate the coin itself you'd realize that you hold the best coin made in 2,000 years and some are MS70 - get it?

Frankly, in the grand scheme of things you are almost guaranteed to get MS69 or MS70 (99.8%) so you really don't need it graded at all. That's why less than 3,000 of the 58,000 or so have been graded to date.

HS, thanks for this post. Great advise. I realize now there is no hurry to get this coin graded.

I'm excited, I just received an email that my UHR shipped today!! :banana:

I can't wait to see this coin. From there, I'll just have to work on getting another one. :ok:

rodzm 04-23-2009 06:44 AM

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My FS MS70 arrived today, and it looks beautiful. However this one has a more prooflike finish than my ungraded one which has more of a matte finish. Once I get home Ill take some pictures of it

Gordon Gekko 04-23-2009 08:18 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1690213)
My FS MS70 arrived today, and it looks beautiful. However this one has a more prooflike finish than my ungraded one which has more of a matte finish. Once I get home Ill take some pictures of it

Conratulations! Keep that gem close by.

I saw a few NGC MS70 Proof Like UHR's on Ebay go for some pretty big bucks ($3,000-$5,000) recently, FWIW.

HistoryStudent 04-23-2009 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1689307)
My 5th UHRDE... just arrived:biggrin:

"THIS BABY HAS GOT TO BE A PROOF" definitely proof like.

For what it's worth the Mint is not keeping to one household per coin limit.

I did use a diff c/c , E-mail, & phone number each time, but the same name & address.

I tried and they CANCELLED me for the THIRD time. Different credit card & used the company name - with mine.

Dirty rotten RATIONING rule!

banchabancha

Now toward the other ways around - like friends and those relatives that GOD gave you - but THANK the LORD you can chose
YOUR friends.

Knight Rider 04-23-2009 03:24 PM

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Just checked the mint, the UHR appears to be in stock now with no delay.

@HS, time to order a PO box for one month, have the coin shipped there, and then cancel ;)


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rodzm 04-23-2009 03:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1690825)
Just checked the mint, the UHR appears to be in stock now with no delay.

@HS, time to order a PO box for one month, have the coin shipped there, and then cancel ;)

Well arent you a sneaky one...

smyles 04-24-2009 03:09 PM

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I decided to try for a second one and ordered yesterday. I'll post the results.

Gordon Gekko 04-24-2009 03:31 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1692542)
I decided to try for a second one and ordered yesterday. I'll post the results.

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the results.

j-son 04-24-2009 07:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
here's some for you

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

Apocalypto 04-24-2009 09:19 PM

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I'm contemplating the purchase of another UHR. Mr. Gekko, good idea?

Gordon Gekko 04-24-2009 09:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1693082)
I'm contemplating the purchase of another UHR. Mr. Gekko, good idea?

I definitely think it's a good idea. I purchased a GAE from APMEX a couple of weeks ago and it set me back a little over $1,000 after shipping, credit card cahrges, etc. Looking back, I probably should have just forked out a little more $$ and ordered another UHR. The recent population reports and other data that rodzm has been collecting is pointing to a total mintage in the 75,000-90,000 range, which isn't bad at all.

Not knowing your current financial situation, it's hard for me to say. If you can afford it, I say go for it! I just might do the same here in a month or too. I'd like to have one graded (already do) and one in the original mint packaging; best of both worlds scenario.

HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 12:07 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1693122)
I definitely think it's a good idea. I purchased a GAE from APMEX a couple of weeks ago and it set me back a little over $1,000 after shipping, credit card cahrges, etc. Looking back, I probably should have just forked out a little more $$ and ordered another UHR. The recent population reports and other data that rodzm has been collecting is pointing to a total mintage in the 75,000-90,000 range, which isn't bad at all.

Not knowing your current financial situation, it's hard for me to say. If you can afford it, I say go for it! I just might do the same here in a month or too. I'd like to have one graded (already do) and one in the original mint packaging; best of both worlds scenario.

Well said and correctly too. :yes:

smyles 04-25-2009 12:22 AM

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Hmm,

No go.

Edit: Guess I used the same cc, but different email and ph.

"Greetings from the United States Mint.
The following order has been cancelled either at your
request or because we were unable to process it. We invite
you to resubmit the order via our website at......."

rodzm 04-25-2009 03:34 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1692906)

I think at only $260 over the price of the mint it is a decent way to get the UHR if youre not willing to wait for weeks or want to get a second one. Bottom line is the mint is cracking down hard on multiple purchases so if you want a UHR you will pay a premium on the secondary market, $260 is a decent premium and I'd pay it if I could get another UHR....but I already have two of them

HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 12:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 1693321)
Hmm,

No go.

Edit: Guess I used the same cc, but different email and ph.

"Greetings from the United States Mint.
The following order has been cancelled either at your
request or because we were unable to process it. We invite
you to resubmit the order via our website at......."

Gosh, they sent me THREE of those same type messages. So now there are a few more options - relatives, friends, Ebay, secondary sites, ectcetera! Ectcetera, Ectcetera ...(fighting THE KING and I) :yes: The bottom line is that the US Mint doesn't want to let go of TOO many precious metals that require extra steps, too. IMVHO of course. As the end result of stopping most gold platinulm and proof silver coins. MOST, being the operative word. Those LOUSER first SPOUSES being the exception of course. They are making a lot of monster boxes for the dealers however...

smyles 04-25-2009 12:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
If you can buy as many as you want through a middleman then the one per household rule makes little sense imho.

Why not just use a friend or family to order? Mom just ordered one for me.:emotions16:

Knight Rider 04-25-2009 12:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Does anyone know how they ship the UHR to Canada? I'd hate for them to use UPS and watch me get dinged a couple hundred on brokerage and customs. Though its .9999 fine right, which is exempt from taxes, unless they consider it to be numismatics.

PS: I think I'm gonna order one soon. Done University next week, get working and order one in Mid May :)

Gordon Gekko 04-25-2009 12:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1693725)
Does anyone know how they ship the UHR to Canada? I'd hate for them to use UPS and watch me get dinged a couple hundred on brokerage and customs. Though its .9999 fine right, which is exempt from taxes, unless they consider it to be numismatics.

PS: I think I'm gonna order one soon. Done University next week, get working and order one in Mid May :)

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HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 06:09 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1693725)
Does anyone know how they ship the UHR to Canada? I'd hate for them to use UPS and watch me get dinged a couple hundred on brokerage and customs. Though its .9999 fine right, which is exempt from taxes, unless they consider it to be numismatics.

PS: I think I'm gonna order one soon. Done University next week, get working and order one in Mid May :)

Call them 1.800.USAMINT


and ask them. Simple.

order me an extra ONE. Bless YOU.

:yes:

Knight Rider 04-25-2009 06:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1694111)
Call them 1.800.USAMINT


and ask them. Simple.

order me an extra ONE. Bless YOU.

:yes:

How many are you at now HS? 5...:cry1:

Gordon Gekko 04-25-2009 06:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1694118)
How many are you at now HS? 5...:cry1:

He's definitely at either 4 or 5.

HS,

Come on now, spread that wealth! I only have 1 UHR, you have 4 or 5. Totally not fair!:sarc:

HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 07:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1694122)
He's definitely at either 4 or 5.

HS,

Come on now, spread that wealth! I only have 1 UHR, you have 4 or 5. Totally not fair!:sarc:

Come...On... First Come First served, right?

I've only got FOUR lousy little UHR - three in MINT boxes...
ONE in a First Strike PCGS holder ... drum roll please...

MS70. Wow!

Now I'm thinking (if only I was made of money) of another

NGC First release from that NICE fellow...

Originally Posted by j-son here's some for you

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

because he's not full of :sarc:

Just kidding... not...

Love you guys...

HS :36_3_12:

Gordon Gekko 04-25-2009 07:13 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1694162)
Come...On... First Come First served, right?

I've only got FOUR lousy little UHR - three in MINT boxes...
ONE in a First Strike PCGS holder ... drum roll please...

MS70. Wow!

Now I'm thinking (if only I was made of money) of another

NGC First release from that NICE fellow...

Originally Posted by j-son here's some for you

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

because he's not full of :sarc:

Just kidding... not...

Love you guys...

HS :36_3_12:


Something's not adding up here HS. You used "FOUR UHR's" and "if only I was made of money" in the same sentence. Come on, you can't fool us!

j-son 04-25-2009 07:23 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1694172)
Something's not adding up here HS. You used "FOUR UHR's" and "if only I was made of money" in the same sentence. Come on, you can't fool us!

i've been keeping a tally of History students gold throughout the years....i think he's up to about 432 ounces worth. :banana:

Gordon Gekko 04-25-2009 07:28 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1694180)
i've been keeping a tally of History students gold throughout the years....i think he's up to about 432 ounces worth. :banana:

Yet he has the audacity to tell us he isn't made out of money. Well, of course you aren't HS. You're made out of gold!

HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 08:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1694180)
i've been keeping a tally of History students gold throughout the years....i think he's up to about 432 ounces worth. :banana:

I think you got gold and silver MIXED up.

:36_3_16::36_3_16::emotions16:

HistoryStudent 04-25-2009 08:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1694172)
Something's not adding up here HS. You used "FOUR UHR's" and "if only I was made of money" in the same sentence. Come on, you can't fool us!

GG saying, "you can fool some of the people some of the time; but you can't fool J-son and Gordon Gekko all of the time, right?"

:Surrender::aetsch::haha::hahaha::fan:

All that's forgiven: please dear friends BUY as many of these UHRs as you can - it's a slam dunk they will really go up when the poop hits the so-called fan.

esoteric 04-25-2009 10:59 PM

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for the poster asking about international shipping, mine just arrived through UPS, havent got it yet but its at their office for delivery first thing Monday morning. they tried to charge me 5% tax but I sent in the paper work telling them it is 24K gold and hopefully get it tax free. theres no point in asking the mint as they are not the ones who will decide to charge you tax, but instead call you customs.

Knight Rider 04-25-2009 11:03 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1694444)
for the poster asking about international shipping, mine just arrived through UPS, havent got it yet but its at their office for delivery first thing Monday morning. they tried to charge me 5% tax but I sent in the paper work telling them it is 24K gold and hopefully get it tax free. theres no point in asking the mint as they are not the ones who will decide to charge you tax, but instead call you customs.

Maybe I'll just put by PO box as the shipping address, that'd force them to send it USPS. UPS always screws us on brokerage.

esoteric 04-26-2009 09:17 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1694449)
Maybe I'll just put by PO box as the shipping address, that'd force them to send it USPS. UPS always screws us on brokerage.

credit card address must match shipping address.

HistoryStudent 04-26-2009 02:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1694772)
credit card address must match shipping address.

Quickly change ONE credit card address to the P.O. Box. Call them.

Perhaps?

:emotions16:

Knight Rider 04-27-2009 02:24 PM

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Well that didn't last long, back to the June 24th estimated shipping date.

HistoryStudent 04-27-2009 03:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 1696521)
Well that didn't last long, back to the June 24th estimated shipping date.

Get as many as you can afford because IF EVER THERE was a coin screaming to be really worth what you are paying for it right now - IT'S this one.

Heck, a lousy 2008 Buffalo or Gold Eagle slabbed cost more on E-screw; :signs14:sorry Ebay, than this ONE-YEAR wonder. :yes::36_3_12:

EE_ 04-27-2009 03:46 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1696627)
Get as many as you can afford because IF EVER THERE was a coin screaming to be really worth what you are paying for it right now - IT'S this one.

Heck, a lousy 2008 Buffalo or Gold Eagle slabbed cost more on E-screw; :signs14:sorry Ebay, than this ONE-YEAR wonder. :yes::36_3_12:

I hope your hunch is a good one, and you are not over doing it.
Other then being the pinnacle of US mintage history, if this coin can stay under 100,000 produced, it should do well.
Unlike the 2006 proof Buffalo, appx. 285,000 produced, that didn't do anything...they were produced for 3 years in proof, Unc. and business strike.
The UHR is going to be made for only one year.

HistoryStudent 04-27-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1696646)
I hope your hunch is a good one, and you are not over doing it.
Other then being the pinnacle of US mintage history, if this coin can stay under 100,000 produced, it should do well.
Unlike the 2006 proof Buffalo, appx. 285,000 produced, that didn't do anything...they were produced for 3 years in proof, Unc. and business strike.
The UHR is going to be made for only one year.

Those OVER PRODUCED 2006 1 oz. MS69 Buffalos are retailing for $1500 plus. That was the last year I bought from the MINT in gold until NOW.

The 2008 Buffalo is around $1900 in PF69 grade. Hmmmmmmmm...

I think, they think, that the US mint thinks, that the BUFFALO is KAPUT: but, EE, who knows for sure.

My thinking is that the UHR will both spur on the Saints while the - in the meantime the INVESTMENT markets pick up as GOLD makes another run shortly toward the $1,300 mark.

The old Saints do have a certified value now in PCGS & NGC which assists the OLD SAINTS - it does.

IMVHO - DYODD

But frankly a few MS70 UHRs and a few in the BOXES "ain't" a bad stinkin' losing bet down the GOLDEN BRICK ROAD with the Wizard of Oz in the White House printing against the other Central Bankers' worldwide - 24/7.

IMVHO. :signs14::36_3_16::yes::111:


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mick silver 04-27-2009 07:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK (UH3) Qty : 1
was in my email today , it on it way

Gordon Gekko 04-27-2009 07:41 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1696990)
1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK (UH3) Qty : 1
was in my email today , it on it way

Nice. It's a neat little book. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

shortstack 04-28-2009 09:57 PM

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Holy cow. I read Le Metropole every day. At the end of each daily commentary, there is an appendix containing posts from Le Metropole members. Here is a post from today's appendix:

__________________________________________________ ___________________

Appendix

interesting, note, I bought 3 UHR eagles for 2009 2 graded by PCGS and 1 graded by NGC, only one of the PCGS's was MS70 1st strike of course, But, when I compare it to a 2008 Ultra High Relief KOALA ounce .9999 purity, all 3 are suspect on gold content, suspicious, so i compared them to my 9999 2008-W buffalo's and again the gold content is suspect- If someone could check on the purity of the coin i'd be surprised if it was trully 24KT, it looks like they "melted the surplus" eagles of old and are now minting 22KT UHR's, of note they look identical in content to the 2009 eagles bullion in content?

curiouser and curiouser and a whole lotta people have to be in on the scam, also note they did NOT PUT THE GOLD CONTENT on the COINS on purpose.
G

__________________________________________________ ___________________

How does your coin look next to a gold Maple?

HistoryStudent 04-28-2009 11:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1699079)
Holy cow. I read Le Metropole every day. At the end of each daily commentary, there is an appendix containing posts from Le Metropole members. Here is a post from today's appendix:

__________________________________________________ ___________________

Appendix

interesting, note, I bought 3 UHR eagles for 2009 2 graded by PCGS and 1 graded by NGC, only one of the PCGS's was MS70 1st strike of course, But, when I compare it to a 2008 Ultra High Relief KOALA ounce .9999 purity, all 3 are suspect on gold content, suspicious, so i compared them to my 9999 2008-W buffalo's and again the gold content is suspect- If someone could check on the purity of the coin i'd be surprised if it was trully 24KT, it looks like they "melted the surplus" eagles of old and are now minting 22KT UHR's, of note they look identical in content to the 2009 eagles bullion in content?

curiouser and curiouser and a whole lotta people have to be in on the scam, also note they did NOT PUT THE GOLD CONTENT on the COINS on purpose.
G

__________________________________________________ ___________________

How does your coin look next to a gold Maple?

Even the ROMAN EMPERORS were little cheats, right? Inflating the gold content by keeping a tad behind until they had only 3% real gold in their COINS. Obama may be pulling a fast one. :signs14::111::111:

Bill57 04-28-2009 11:21 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
How does a person "look" at two coins, and tell that one is 2 carats different from the other?

Apocalypto 04-29-2009 12:56 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I call BS on G's comments. First of all, the guy's grammar is terrible. How much of a brain can he have in his head if he can't even spell the word "truly"?

Also, what kind of fool puts his money into 3 coins of the unique nature of the UHRs, and only then questions their authenticity?

rodzm 04-29-2009 01:57 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1699291)
I call BS on G's comments. First of all, the guy's grammar is terrible. How much of a brain can he have in his head if he can't even spell the word "truly"?

Also, what kind of fool puts his money into 3 coins of the unique nature of the UHRs, and only then questions their authenticity?

Well some people buy because everyone is doing so...speculators and flippers I call them. Nothing wrong to flip or speculate but if you question the authenticity of a coin then why buy it right?

I buy simply because it is a work of art and it is something I could eventually pass down to my kids. I know it will appreciate nicely in the years to come

Buyingsilvers 04-29-2009 02:13 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
probably doesnt want anyone else to purchase them. haha

I'm going to go around spreading the rumor that it's gold plated lead.

diversified2 04-29-2009 08:47 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1699291)
I call BS on G's comments. First of all, the guy's grammar is terrible. How much of a brain can he have in his head if he can't even spell the word "truly"?

Also, what kind of fool puts his money into 3 coins of the unique nature of the UHRs, and only then questions their authenticity?

Go back to Geckos post #514 which shows the UHR next to the GAE the gold does not look the same. Saved me some digging to retrieve mine to have a look!

Gordon Gekko 04-29-2009 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1699602)
Go back to Geckos post #514 which shows the UHR next to the GAE the gold does not look the same. Saved me some digging to retrieve mine to have a look!

I am kind of picking up on the tail end of this conversation, so I apologize if I am missing something. The "regular" GAEs definitely look different than the UHRs. To put it simply, the GAEs have a more "bronze" look to them while the UHRs are more "golden".

diversified2 04-29-2009 08:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1699614)
I am kind of picking up on the tail end of this conversation, so I apologize if I am missing something. The "regular" GAEs definitely look different than the UHRs. To put it simply, the GAEs have a more "bronze" look to them while the UHRs are more "golden".

Check out post #1263...

EE_ 04-29-2009 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1699618)
Check out post #1263...

I wanted to be your first.

diversified2 04-29-2009 09:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1699642)
I wanted to be your first.

Shoot EE you will always be numbero uno to me!!!!!!!!!:shine::beer::23_1_22:

EE_ 04-29-2009 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1699649)
Shoot EE you will always be numbero uno to me!!!!!!!!!:shine::beer::23_1_22:

You always remember your first.:ok:

Gordon Gekko 04-29-2009 09:29 AM

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Haha, what the heck is going on? I am lost.

diversified2 04-29-2009 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1699670)
Haha, what the heck is going on? I am lost.

Someone started a rumor that the UHR's aren't 24 Kt....melted down GAE

from shortstack Post #1263
Holy cow. I read Le Metropole every day. At the end of each daily commentary, there is an appendix containing posts from Le Metropole members. Here is a post from today's appendix:

__________________________________________________ ___________________

Appendix

interesting, note, I bought 3 UHR eagles for 2009 2 graded by PCGS and 1 graded by NGC, only one of the PCGS's was MS70 1st strike of course, But, when I compare it to a 2008 Ultra High Relief KOALA ounce .9999 purity, all 3 are suspect on gold content, suspicious, so i compared them to my 9999 2008-W buffalo's and again the gold content is suspect- If someone could check on the purity of the coin i'd be surprised if it was trully 24KT, it looks like they "melted the surplus" eagles of old and are now minting 22KT UHR's, of note they look identical in content to the 2009 eagles bullion in content?

curiouser and curiouser and a whole lotta people have to be in on the scam, also note they did NOT PUT THE GOLD CONTENT on the COINS on purpose.
G

__________________________________________________ ___________________

How does your coin look next to a gold Maple?

Gordon Gekko 04-29-2009 10:16 AM

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Hmmm, interesting. I don't think the UHR and the GAE look alike at all. The UHR looks more like a gold maple.

diversified2 04-29-2009 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1699767)
Hmmm, interesting. I don't think the UHR and the GAE look alike at all. The UHR looks more like a gold maple.

I agree that's why I looked up your pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:

diversified2 04-29-2009 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1596661)

There you go for all to see....Gordons pics!!! You decide...much easier than digging up the stash...

Gordon Gekko 04-29-2009 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1699779)
There you go for all to see....Gordons pics!!! You decide...much easier than digging up the stash...

Thanks diversified2.

I can even take some better pictures tonight, just to display the blatant aesthetic difference between the two.

EE_ 04-29-2009 10:29 AM

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http://imagecache2.allposters.com/im...ts-Posters.jpg

diversified2 04-29-2009 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1699789)

I'm going to die, pee my pants or both!!!!!!!!!! Quit it!!!! :111::offtopic:

HistoryStudent 04-29-2009 08:35 PM

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I did notice in my recent COIN WORLD weekly edition - that

DRUM ROLL PLEASE ....

NGC is bringing HIGHER PRICES encapsulated in UHR 2009 Double (thick) Eagles.

In both MS69 - over a HUNDRED bucks now

MS70 - over a HUNDRED bucks now


and NGC Early Releases - same as above

over PCGS First Strikes - same as above

Thought you'd all like to know - my GUESSTIMATE is the LOWER number
of population by NGC versus PCGS.

So check out the other thread for the NUMBERS in the CENSUS; :yes:.


printed in DARK green for dollar color. So don't KICK NGC out with the bath water - quite YET - cause they are coming back like Richard Nixon - NO....:signs14::111: Hope you all got yours done by NGC, right?

Gordon Gekko 04-30-2009 06:46 PM

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I can't believe I have 235 posts in this thread alone. We've had some good times. I am going to miss this thread.

AGRO 04-30-2009 07:37 PM

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Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin




2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin (UH1)
Price: $1,239.00 Qty. More Info.
Product will be available for shipping 06/24/2009


Has anyone ordered lately?

C&L 1911 04-30-2009 08:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AGRO (Post 1702618)

Has anyone ordered lately?

Ordered on the 20th, my status is "in stock and reserved", and cancel button/checkboxes disappeared yesterday, which means it should be shipping any day now (hopefully).

AGRO 04-30-2009 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1702663)
Ordered on the 20th, my status is "in stock and reserved", and cancel button/checkboxes disappeared yesterday, which means it should be shipping any day now (hopefully).

Wow, that's great!

Will you have it graded?

C&L 1911 04-30-2009 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AGRO (Post 1702668)
Wow, that's great!

Will you have it graded?

Probably not.

AGRO 04-30-2009 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1702675)
Probably not.

Would have been nice to get on of those "first strikes".

HistoryStudent 04-30-2009 11:03 PM

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Just received NOTICE from MINT that they are shipping a final UHR GOLD COIN "BOOK"

so that means that MOST of you should probably have your BOOK
by now.

Wishing you all the best,

HS

Frankly, I can NOT express how strong my feelings (that's a super GUT instinct! - for numbers and coins - and a historical knowledge and wisdom over the last 2,400 years of gold coins) are that anyone who has a GOLD EAGLE modern coin or especially a pre-1933 Saint Gauden's $20 Double Eagle should definately have at least ONE of these UHR coins.

If you have two - that would be better - they do NOT have to be graded as there are over 55,000 still out there that can be graded later - and who knows how many will be?

HONESTY - if you can: :ok:
So be brave get one or a few and PUT them away - period.


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Apocalypto 04-30-2009 11:34 PM

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HistoryStudent, good thoughts there. Always appreciate your posts. Take care.

Junior Ganymede Club 04-30-2009 11:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1702663)
Ordered on the 20th, my status is "in stock and reserved", and cancel button/checkboxes disappeared yesterday, which means it should be shipping any day now (hopefully).

Just ordered a few days ago on the 24th, and it shipped on the 30th. The book is still listed as in stock and reserved, but the coin shipped. 6 months, now down to 6 days.

AGRO 05-01-2009 12:32 AM

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So is your mouth watering yet? or that will be at 2 days?

HistoryStudent 05-01-2009 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior Ganymede Club (Post 1702923)
Just ordered a few days ago on the 24th, and it shipped on the 30th. The book is still listed as in stock and reserved, but the coin shipped. 6 months, now down to 6 days.

When you get it - take a long look at it. Also do a search on GOOGLE for the 1907 UHR Eagle made then. There are a couple of coins just like yours now in the Smithsonian. They made 20 some pattern coins for a possible issue cion - but changed their minds. The destroyed by melting all but two and sent them to the Nation's Atic. They would be worth 2 to 4 million a piece because they are ONE of America's BEST ever coins.

Then when the book comes pull it out and read it by the coin - NEVER NEVER NEVER take it out of the PLASTIC protection. Surely that will cost you one or two or three grades. How would you like it if they sent you an MS70 - you removed it to hold it - graded it and it came back MS68, right?

Your's will be in better shape weather it's a MS69 or MS70 gradable later on.

Be glad you got just one: try for two if you can.

Best wishes,

HS

I feel stronger about this than those 2006 REVERSE PROOFS of the Gold Eagle. I have more than a few of the 2007 platinum ones - and I'd trade them for this any day of the week - they are smaller however - only a half ounce - but have a similar sales retail price - I believe. :ok:

Junior Ganymede Club 05-01-2009 09:24 PM

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Wow. I am seriously impressed. Ordered the 24th, shipped the 30th, arrived today (May 1st). I didn't ask for it to be overnighted, but they did. What a beautiful coin. I can't believe I just spent that much ...

History Student, mine says "Business Strike" ... is it still worth sending in for grading?

HistoryStudent 05-01-2009 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior Ganymede Club (Post 1704328)
Wow. I am seriously impressed. Ordered the 24th, shipped the 30th, arrived today (May 1st). I didn't ask for it to be overnighted, but they did. What a beautiful coin. I can't believe I just spent that much ...

History Student, mine says "Business Strike" ... is it still worth sending in for grading?

Okay it has a great BOX right? :yes:

It has great exterior cardboard boxes (plural) right? :yes:

It has a certification card right? :yes:

It has your receipt right? :yes:

If you get up to three or four get the best one certified, OKAY? :ok:

You have what 90% has not certified yet - and 90% of them never will probably. :ok:

Be calm - enjoy the best coin the MINT has MADE in 100 years - and very few will afford to have even one - and YOU are past that right now.

Read the BOOK when IT comes with the coin right next to you in the PLASTIC NEVER take it out - it ain't worth the risk. One of my friends on the board took it out - passed it to her husband and he's as clumsy as I am "JAR JAR BINKS II" (he's III) - and he dropped it! Almost caused a serious MARITAL situation! :36_3_12: My guess is that it will grade lower a tad - That's what happens when you play "I want to hold it." Heck hold a GOLD EAGLE dated 2000 something!


Enjoy you've joined the ranks of the elite coin collectors of the world.

That coin is prettier than the 1933 $20 Saint that sold for 7 MILLION bucks - prettier - but just not as rare! :111::111::111::504:

Az Ag 05-02-2009 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1703356)

I feel stronger about this than those 2006 REVERSE PROOFS of the Gold Eagle.

HS, I am curious why you feel stronger about this coin than the 2006 Rev Proof GAE. Do you think it will be become more valuable or is it you just think it is more beautiful? If you are talking raw beauty, I agree. But, with more than 60k coins now out, I don't see how it will ever be able to compare in value to the Reverse Proof (10,000 coins) or even to the 2008 W Uncirculated Gold Buffalo (9,400 coins).

Respectfully,
Az Ag

rodzm 05-02-2009 03:28 PM

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Mintage is not always everything...

Are 2008 W Buffalos in high demand???? Compare realized prices for a 1 oz 2008 W Buffalo and a MS70 UHR to see the price difference. I bet you the UHRs command a higher price and if they dont, they soon will

Found a PCGS First Strike 1 oz Buffalo on APMEX for $1,495.00, about $800 less than FS MS70 UHRs

Kind of proves that mintage means nothing with some coins

HistoryStudent 05-02-2009 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1704946)
HS, I am curious why you feel stronger about this coin than the 2006 Rev Proof GAE. Do you think it will be become more valuable or is it you just think it is more beautiful? If you are talking raw beauty, I agree. But, with more than 60k coins now out, I don't see how it will ever be able to compare in value to the Reverse Proof (10,000 coins) or even to the 2008 W Uncirculated Gold Buffalo (9,400 coins).

Respectfully,
Az Ag

Because like something coming from nowhere (like this stupid flu) things happen. The reverse proof 10k and 2008 unc. Buffalo 9.4k are both low number coins. Agreed. I don't think the reverse proofs are as pretty as the regular proofs (1) and you can buy a 2006 uncirculated Buff rather cheap (2) - and neither compare with the UHR as a collector per se.

I realize that NUMBERS control the marketplace, right? DYODD, okay?

But take a LONGgggggggggggggggggg look at the prices and NUMBERS on just the HIGH relief Saints. Then research a UHR 1907 Saint - if one was available out of the 20 or so they made, right?

Then ask yourself if I collected saints which modern coin would I really like to have?

The ask yourself if I have 50 USA American Gold Eagles which modern coin expresses itself more to the original at a lower price right now?

It's what I do to see the numbers and the best deal for long term appreciation. I would never buy 5 reverses or 5 unc. 2008 Buffs - but would I buy 5 or more 2009 UHRs?


Answer - YES

It's just me trying to play with numbers and the future and GUESSING what MIGHT happen. It's worked for 10 years so far - so what the heck. It makes COIN collecting more fun for me. Kinda like an OLD Jesse Livermore playing his BUCKET SHOP stock jobber games and trying to cream the jobbers. I just see it as a NO lose opportunity - just past the cost of bullion - but one heck of a lot more fun and less boring - and it comes with a cute little book too! If you have a few bullion coins have at least one of these. It's like a $1,300 bet on a slam dunk for me. but, that's me; and I seriously wanted to share it with the group.

I don't remember any other coin being priced around $1,300 and RATIONED like a gallon of gas, do you? There's a lot of things out there that just take a little faith. Kinda like the books of John and Romans - and they'll really pay off later on too.

:signs14::signs14::signs14:
:Surrender:

BoatingAccident 05-02-2009 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1705186)
If you have a few bullion coins have at least one of these. It's like a $1,300 bet on a slam dunk for me. but, that's me; and I seriously wanted to share it with the group.

Well I'm very glad you did, HS. I think I'm becoming a HistoryStudent-Student. :ok:

I figure it this way. For small time buyers like me, who order maybe 1 gold coin when they can. A GAE, with shipping, etc would be close to $1000 out the door. (at the time I bought)

So, for an extra $250, you get a rationed coin, minted for this year only, in a beautiful classy mahogany displace case...and with out a doubt, the MOST beautiful coin ever minted. I'm very happy to have made the decision to purchase this coin, and am extremely impressed with it.

For me it's a slam dunk too.

HS, I do have a question though. I may only be able to afford 1 of these, hopefully I can get another sometime this summer...

But, if you only had 1, would you get it graded sometime in the future, and what would be the deciding factor for you to make this decision?

Also, the coin seems to be protected very well inside the plastic case it comes in. Do you think this case will keep the coin in MS condition over the long haul?

Az Ag 05-02-2009 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1705049)
Mintage is not always everything...

Are 2008 W Buffalos in high demand???? Compare realized prices for a 1 oz 2008 W Buffalo and a MS70 UHR to see the price difference. I bet you the UHRs command a higher price and if they dont, they soon will

Found a PCGS First Strike 1 oz Buffalo on APMEX for $1,495.00, about $800 less than FS MS70 UHRs

Kind of proves that mintage means nothing with some coins

Rodzm, thanks for your thoughts, but the APMEX coin you cite is not the W version, it is the bullion version, and therefore is not a valid comparison. In reviewing E-bay for recent sales, I found in a PCGS MS70 version the lowest sale in the last 2 weeks for a 2008 Buffalo W 50 was $2,136 while the lowest for a 2009 UHR was $1,851. In PCGS MS70 1st Strike the buff was $2,590 and the UHR was $2,124. In the non graded, as issued by US Mint version, there have been no sales of the buff in the last 2 weeks, but there is one for sale now, with another 24 hours to go before close and it is at $1,436 now (it finished at a cost of $1,675), while the UHR, same version sold for $1,225.

Based on this well-written article found at the Mint News Blog, the authors determination is that the prices of all graded and ungraded versions of the UHR are falling rapidly. His conclusion is that declining value of the UHR is not necessarily indicative of ultimate future value, because there are many factors that will come into play once the Mint ceases production of the coin.

I agree with his analysis, and I agree with a statement you made above "that mintage is not always everything." Just because there may be more of one coin than another does not mean that coin with lesser mintage will have the higher value. However, in this case, I believe that there are so many more UHR coins than either the 2008 w Buff or the 2006 Rev Prf GAE (RPG) that the sheer number of excess coins in comparison will be more than enough to offset any difference due solely to investor demand. Therefore, in my opinion, the future value of the 08 W Buff and the 06 RPG will always be greater than the UHR.

Now that being said, I still think the UHR is a more attractive coin, and the Mint presentation of the UHR is amazing. I have one each of the three, and I wish I could get more of each one. If I had to choose one and only one of the three at this point, purely for speculative investment purposes, I would choose the 08 W Buff just because I think there is still room for some appreciation due to investor demand. :15_1_70v:

Az Ag

HistoryStudent 05-02-2009 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1705280)
Well I'm very glad you did, HS. I think I'm becoming a HistoryStudent-Student. :ok:

I figure it this way. For small time buyers like me, who order maybe 1 gold coin when they can. A GAE, with shipping, etc would be close to $1000 out the door. (at the time I bought)

So, for an extra $250, you get a rationed coin, minted for this year only, in a beautiful classy mahogany displace case...and with out a doubt, the MOST beautiful coin ever minted. I'm very happy to have made the decision to purchase this coin, and am extremely impressed with it.

A very wise decision NUMISMATIC wise too.

For me it's a slam dunk too.

HS, I do have a question though. I may only be able to afford 1 of these, hopefully I can get another sometime this summer...

Try hard.

But, if you only had 1, would you get it graded sometime in the future, and what would be the deciding factor for you to make this decision?

No I would not - if I had 3 - perhaps ONE would be graded. Here's the reason. Most are still in there fantastic box certificate and double wrapping boxes.

Also, the coin seems to be protected very well inside the plastic case it comes in. Do you think this case will keep the coin in MS condition over the long haul?


YES if kept in a cool dry place and quietly dearly and for a LONG LONG time. If you ever read the KENT CRONICLES (books great with TV series too) - you have a true family heirloom - YOURS! :23_28_100s:


Enjoy what you have. Frankly, I wondered if they would realy make them. They did. And I'm very glad. Read back in my posts about their exact forerunners at the Smithsonian. 2 of them only.

Best wishes,

HS

HistoryStudent 05-02-2009 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1705350)
Rodzm, thanks for your thoughts, but the APMEX coin you cite is not the W version, it is the bullion version, and therefore is not a valid comparison. In reviewing E-bay for recent sales, I found in a PCGS MS70 version the lowest sale in the last 2 weeks for a 2008 Buffalo W 50 was $2,136 while the lowest for a 2009 UHR was $1,851. In PCGS MS70 1st Strike the buff was $2,590 and the UHR was $2,124. In the non graded, as issued by US Mint version, there have been no sales of the buff in the last 2 weeks, but there is one for sale now, with another 24 hours to go before close and it is at $1,436 now, while the UHR, same version sold for $1,225.

Based on this well-written article found at the Mint News Blog, the authors determination is that the prices of all graded and ungraded versions of the UHR are falling rapidly. His conclusion is that declining value of the UHR is not necessarily indicative of ultimate future value, because there are many factors that will come into play once the Mint ceases production of the coin.

I agree with his analysis, and I agree with a statement you made above "that mintage is not always everything." Just because there may be more of one coin than another does not mean that coin with lesser mintage will have the higher value. However, in this case, I believe that there are so many more UHR coins than either the 2008 w Buff or the 2006 Rev Prf GAE (RPG) that the sheer number of excess coins in comparison will be more than enough to offset any difference due solely to investor demand. Therefore, in my opinion, the future value of the 08 W Buff and the 06 RPG will always be greater than the UHR.

Now that being said, I still think the UHR is a more attractive coin, and the Mint presentation of the UHR is amazing. I have one each of the three, and I wish I could get more of each one. If I had to choose one and only one of the three at this point, purely for speculative investment purposes, I would choose the 08 W Buff just because I think there is still room for some appreciation due to investor demand. :15_1_70v:

Az Ag

Az Ag - You are right about all three coins. Period. :23_28_100s:
Especially:
I agree that the 1908 BUFFALO may be the last - and therefore as you mentioned. :emotions16:

But, SADLY - I love the Bufallo PROOFS :yes: so much more. I picked-up a few in the Mint boxes in 2006. I also picked-up the PROOFS 4-set Gold Eagles - 2006.

Then I picked up almost a 100 of the UNC. Silver Eagles - trying to get those ILLUSIVE error coin(s). Then I picked-up a few of the PROOF 2007 platinum sets od 1/2 ounce w/reverse.

Sadly I like the old SAINTS the best - therefore:

I LIKE the UHR better than any of them - so perhaps it is also BEAUTY is in the eye of the BEHOLDER too - situation. I have a UHR that is proof like - and that was very nice to receive. I'm kinda SMITTEN by them - love at first sight - possible stopage of minting them - nobody knows until they are a day too late.

Thanks so much for the confirmation of what I'm seeing too. They are buying on the rumor and selling on the news like the stock market. I have three SAINTS graphs books for the last 25 years that I also study intermixed with historical situations. Somehow the old Saints and the new UHR have something going too.
Best wishes and thanks for your information,

HS

Az Ag 05-02-2009 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1705400)
I LIKE the UHR better than any of them - so perhaps it is also BEAUTY is in the eye of the BEHOLDER too - situation. I have a UHR that is proof like - and that was very nice to receive. I'm kinda SMITTEN by them - love at first sight - possible stopage of minting them - nobody knows until they are a day too late.

HS, you make a very good point. If you really love the coins, it doesn't matter much if they appreciate or not. They are just flat out fun to collect. My problem is not so much the collecting, it is the selling. I am good at buying, but have a very difficult time getting rid of them. My bullion coins that I buy in bulk, I don't become too attached to them, but the coins that are special, like the three we have discussed, and the Aussie Lunars, and the Brittanias, I doubt I will ever sell any. I will leave that to my heirs. :23_31_2:

Az Ag

HistoryStudent 05-02-2009 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1705414)
HS, you make a very good point. If you really love the coins, it doesn't matter much if they appreciate or not. They are just flat out fun to collect. My problem is not so much the collecting, it is the selling. I am good at buying, but have a very difficult time getting rid of them. My bullion coins that I buy in bulk, I don't become too attached to them, but the coins that are special, like the three we have discussed, and the Aussie Lunars, and the Brittanias, I doubt I will ever sell any. I will leave that to my heirs. :23_31_2:

Az Ag

Dang ME you MUST be my soul mate in COLLECTING. The thing that scares me is that I'll have to sell my "slabbed" babies - I even like my second & third doubles of my common dates - before my dear old boring bullion babies.

I picked-up a 1909 D Saint last year on a lark - had it regraded by the same company - and sent in WITH NOTES and my 50 power pictures - it came BACK -
$20 Saint - MS58 - 1909 D/D :ok:

I'm REALLY REALLY jealous about those BRITTANIA's (like the LORD of the RINGS guy - saying "MY PRECIOUS!") and the LUNARS. :Surrender:

Like a true JERK back 9 years ago I traded a group of 5 wonderful PROOF 1986 NUGGETS IN PLASTIC CASES TOO - (1 oz. each) - for five .9999 Maples because I wanted to have the same type BULLION coins. Shoot myself in the darn foot: it still hurts today!:thumb.aspx: Please - don't any of you make that stupid mistake. We ain't PURR-FECT; because we's human. We learn from our mistakes - we do. And I hope true confessions helps the NUMISMATIC corps out there on the straight and narrow.

HS

PS just a note. On EBAY I see that a NUMBER of FOREIGN bidders might be buying the UHR 2009 coins. Interesting.

Merlin 05-02-2009 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Az Ag (Post 1705414)
HS, you make a very good point. If you really love the coins, it doesn't matter much if they appreciate or not. They are just flat out fun to collect. My problem is not so much the collecting, it is the selling. I am good at buying, but have a very difficult time getting rid of them. My bullion coins that I buy in bulk, I don't become too attached to them, but the coins that are special, like the three we have discussed, and the Aussie Lunars, and the Brittanias, I doubt I will ever sell any. I will leave that to my heirs. :23_31_2:

Az Ag

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I have enough 90% silver and Krugerrands purchased as bullion. When the time comes to sell, those will be easy enough to part with -- no love lost.

But, the UHR eagle? Love at first sight. I bought the coin because I lusted for it, even at a time when I knew I shouldn't. Had to stretch a bit to afford one but didn't want to miss out. I don't make most of my investments and purchases on that basis. But the UHR eagle was a coin I had to have. It's probably the last gold I would ever sell. Lucky heirs.

oldmansmith 05-04-2009 07:08 PM

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Just pulled the trigger and bought one, i've been reading about all my fellow GIM gollums lusting over this coin. $1,239 is a lot for an ounce, but I though the same when I bought the 06 proof buffalo for $800. Now it is my wife's favorite coin, the last one SHE will part with!

lumpOgold 05-04-2009 07:33 PM

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I have a funny story;

The mint had a hard time getting my CC to clear on this order, so they canceled my order early in March for my UHR coin. (I have since found out my PayPal debit card can only transfer $1,000 per day from my checking account. So the second order went through perfectly.) But the UPS man showed up here with a thin brown envelope, and inside was the UHR book!
Obviously someone forgot to cancel the second line item on the order when they canceled the first.
lol!

Also my Braille coins finally arrived! woohoo!

HistoryStudent 05-07-2009 02:29 PM

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Number whatever is coming. I ordered a PROOFLIKE EARLY RELEASE UHR Double Eagle from whomever. That's GOING to be fun double checking others that friends have (:yes:) against it and ginving them good NEWS - me included! Hope you are all well. bancha:banana:bancha:banana: Doing the DANCE!

Richard Maybury says there's a 85% chance (15% is for geo-political unknown that can occur - you know like WW whatatever or :fan: in deflation) that the 100% new money added since last OCTOBER is coming back into the U.S. SYSTEM with a vengence.
Jim Sinclair says that there will be such an INFLATION that it will scare the INITIATED (that's most of you and ME.)
David Morgan says that we probably will have ONCE in a 200 to 300 year currency crisis.

And on and on. :signs14:

So get what CHINA would like to HAVE in oil, copper, gold, silver, food, you get the drill.

Be happy you are 99% ahead of the unprepared. Honestly try to BE happy and let the drama leave your heart.

Best wishes, :yes:

HS


C&L 1911 05-07-2009 02:31 PM

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What's strange is that the POG has been above $900 for a couple of days now, yet the price of UHR didn't get bumped last night.

MoMoney 05-07-2009 04:23 PM

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Yes, CL---
I noticed that to on the Mint site. However....looks likely they'll be a price jump next Wednesday!
P.S. I adore my UHR! :bear_tongue:

Coelomate 05-07-2009 08:24 PM

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Finally able to register for the forums - what a great day!

I have a question about the UHR - does anybody have any advice on deciding whether or not a(n) UHR DE is worth submitting for a grade? It seems like a large expense to undertake for the risk of getting a barely-increased-in-value MS69...

HistoryStudent 05-07-2009 08:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelomate (Post 1713162)
Finally able to register for the forums - what a great day!

I have a question about the UHR - does anybody have any advice on deciding whether or not a(n) UHR DE is worth submitting for a grade? It seems like a large expense to undertake for the risk of getting a barely-increased-in-value MS69...

Okay. If you LOVE collecting and have say - 20 slabbed SAINTS
(1907-1928 [1932}) already - why not? :thumb.aspx: By the way the COLOR on the UHR Eagle is quite YELLOWER than the copper color of the SAINTS - I was amazed last night. It was the same color as the NUGGETS from Austraila and the lovely Maples from CANADA.

However - if you are like the other 50,000 comfy campers who are "extremely happy" with the MINT fantastical and certification/packaging - HECK no, right? :yes:bancha

Probably NOT is the best answer - however for a few of us DIE HARDER and dumber - we grabbed one or so to go with the rest in the MINT PACKAGING that frankly is rather good. Really good. bancha:signs14::36_3_16:

Merlin 05-07-2009 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1713185)
...the rest in the MINT PACKAGING that frankly is rather good. Really good.

Between that beautiful wood box, the double sleeve and the accompanying book, those things alone are almost worth the premium you pay over a bullion ounce -- and that's without consideration for the spectacular coin itself! If you're going to own several and think you can identify the best of the bunch and still want to have it graded, go ahead. But the package from the mint is pretty spectacular as is. Why mess with perfection? Just greedy, huh?

HistoryStudent 05-07-2009 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1713237)
Between that beautiful wood box, the double sleeve and the accompanying book, those things alone are almost worth the premium you pay over a bullion ounce -- and that's without consideration for the spectacular coin itself! If you're going to own several and think you can identify the best of the bunch and still want to have it graded, go ahead. But the package from the mint is pretty spectacular as is. Why mess with perfection? Just greedy, huh?

You are Sooooooooooooooooooooooo... RIGHT!

Best wishes

HS

P.S. MERLIN - Grab as many as you can because when the GOLD pops past $1,500 :fan: the mint will, oh, I don't know what they will do, but THEY "ain't" big in giving the little guy too much. Now if you were a BIG J.P. Morgan banker with 170 TRILLION in derrivatives - well then you are too BIG to fail and they'll hand you the MINT for free. :signs14::yes::111::111::111::111:

Apocalypto 05-07-2009 11:25 PM

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I love this coin.

BoatingAccident 05-07-2009 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1713434)
I love this coin.

Me too...it is stunning.

I'm working hard and saving to purchase another one. If I use a different credit card, and ship it to a different address, do you think my order may go through?

Once I have the FRN's to trade, I'll try it out. :ok:

HistoryStudent 05-08-2009 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1713475)
Me too...it is stunning.

I'm working hard and saving to purchase another one. If I use a different credit card, and ship it to a different address, do you think my order may go through?

Once I have the FRN's to trade, I'll try it out. :ok:

The MINT is getting REAL "SNEAKY" and using a NAME search - I'd BET YA!

They "musta dida" caught me WITH about three or four of their CANCELATIONS. :banghead::thumb.aspx::banghead::thumb.aspx::bangh ead::thumb.aspx:

:111::111::111::Surrender::36_3_12:

BoatingAccident 05-08-2009 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1714137)
The MINT is getting REAL "SNEAKY" and using a NAME search - I'd BET YA!

They "musta dida" caught me WITH about three or four of their CANCELATIONS. :banghead::thumb.aspx::banghead::thumb.aspx::bangh ead::thumb.aspx:

:111::111::111::Surrender::36_3_12:


It seems the MINTsters are more clever than we thought. :111:

Nice try though HS. Unfortunately for me, my name is very unique. It may work for guys named John Smith though!

The challenge has been set. GIM verses the US Mint. We'll find a way to beat them and order another coin. When we do, that will be such a victorious day :ok:

HistoryStudent 05-08-2009 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1714169)
It seems the MINTsters are more clever than we thought. :111:

Nice try though HS. Unfortunately for me, my name is very unique. It may work for guys named John Smith though!

The challenge has been set. GIM verses the US Mint. We'll find a way to beat them and order another coin. When we do, that will be such a victorious day :ok:

I was just checking

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

and they sold out of the *PROOF LIKE* versions.

Imagine that somebody paid $4,300 EACH - for the MS70 *Proof Like* Early Releases.

The Population of the MS70 IS now around "600 so, say, H.S. GUESSTIMATE: 6" are *Proof Like* :36_3_16: and that is about right.

NGC has graded only about 1/3 the UHR total coins that PCGS has done to date.

That's like "government numbers" (oxymoron like Military Intelligence:111:) probably way off.

Keep your joy, have fun, be glad, and "PROTECT and DEFEND YOURSELVES GENTLEMEN." (History trying to act like Sergeant Major in WE WERE SOLDIERS! - when in fact History is more like Woody Allen - Don Knox - and EARNEST goes to Jail - all rolled up in one. :yes:)

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C&L 1911 05-13-2009 02:49 PM

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My 2nd UHR has finally shipped (about damn time).

:565:

Oh, and the current price of UHR has now been adjusted to $1289.

HistoryStudent 05-13-2009 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1721169)
My 2nd UHR has finally shipped (about damn time).

:565:

Oh, and the current price of UHR has now been adjusted to $1289.

That's about half of next years price!

:111::111::111:

Scratchmo 05-14-2009 12:59 PM

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I ordered mine about a month ago and just received it today. WOW!!!!! I am sooooo impressed. I really wasn't expecting such a nice presentation. I thought they made a mistake. Mine is a "business strike" but looks like a proof to me. I want another one...or two.... or three....

Bill57 05-15-2009 05:17 PM

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"business strike"?

HistoryStudent 05-15-2009 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill57 (Post 1724506)
"business strike"?

You are right wondering why, right?

Business Strike (as I was corrected prior) means something for currency or use or perhaps the bullion type coins with no "W" (West Point Mint) on them.

These coins are all labeled MS by NGC, PCGS, ANACS - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera - I feel like You Brenner in "The King and I."

And each UHR 2009 coin is MINT marked "W" too!

So pretty - :emotions16::hahaha::hahaha:I sincerely wish they came in a two and a half troy ounce size! Like the old 1850s $50 gold slugs!

:111::111::111::111::111::111:

Merlin 05-15-2009 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1724643)
And each UHR 2009 coin is MINT marked "W" too!

I don't think so. At least I can't find it anywhere on my coin.

HistoryStudent 05-15-2009 07:37 PM

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Oops.

The MINT brochure calls it a BUSINESS STRIKE!

Boy that makes my graded NGC proof like one look better when I get it, "right."

Also on page 40-41 of the UHR BOOK they mention as does the brochure
that the UHR COINS are minted at West Point.

Oops.

I can't find their "W" on the coin either. ON The MINT Gold Eagle coins the "W" is on the front left side.

Sorry - but they were minted there per their book.
:36_3_12:


Going back to my bed for being a bad boy:
:scorpio:

Scratchmo 05-16-2009 03:07 PM

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Business strike usually refers to something meant for commerce ie. Uncirculated. In other words.... NOT a proof.

Merlin 05-16-2009 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1724702)
Oops... Going back to my bed for being a bad boy.

Not a bad boy. No one can be expected to know everything. So, here's a test for you. What is that mark directly underneath the Roman numeral date (MMIX)? It looks a little like the letter A superimposed over a C; but, even though I've magnified it, I still have no idea what that is.

HistoryStudent 05-17-2009 12:09 AM

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I love to shoot from the hip - so here goes -

I think it's the INITIALS of the DESIGNER

Augustus Saint Gaudens (ASG in MONOGRAM form) - if I'm not mistaken.

ASG in symbol type form

:yes: or NO? :23_1_22:

http://www.sgnhs.org/Augustus%20SGau...ndex/index.htm

http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/pres...ldProofObv.jpg

Now... if I could just find that stinkin' "W" that should be on the UHR - those stinkers!

:111::111::111::111:

rodzm 05-17-2009 06:21 AM

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Thw only ones that cary the "W" mint mark are the proof and burnished versions of Gold and Silver American Eagles. They are all made at West Point, however since the UHR is a business strike it will not carry the "W" mint mark. That mint mark is only placed to do two things

1) The obvious which is to show where it was made and
2) Show that it is a collector coin rather than a business strike coin

Those are indeed the initials of Augustus St Gaudens. If there were a proof version of the UHR it would have the W mint mark

HistoryStudent 05-18-2009 11:08 PM

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I was notified that the USPS has my:

NGC - UHR 2009 First Release *** Proof Like ***

waiting for ME at the "sign for delivery in the local Post Office."

One of 17 now...

Probably one of ONE thousand tomorrow....


:111::111::111::111:

I GOT IT TOYOTA!

It's really shiny and looks amost polished compared to the others out there in my "SAFE LAND." Even way better than a MS70 First Day PCGS - one!

All the fields are quite bright; the LIBERTY figure is also polished looking.

I wish they all looked to be like this PUPPY - it's the way they should have "DONE IT" (RIGHT!).

Even the edge is polished looking.

Interesting to say the least - best wishes to all - get all you can.

The eagle on the back is so slick the wings flap - just kidding.

HistoryStudent 05-29-2009 04:08 PM

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$1289 on sale at the US Mint today. :36_1_25:

Buy it now for next month gold could pass that BY easily and you'd have the coin by June 4th, 2009! :36_3_16:

Wow! I wish i could get another one. :bull-smile::bull-smile:

The NEW Coin World Coin Values Aug. 2009 today


says the UHR 2009 MS70 retails for $2,400

the MS69 sorry charlie - $1,575

Surprise to me was the BUFFALO $50 PF was $1325 in PF70

in MS the Buff was MS70 $2496 - and the proofs are so much better looking.

It's all in the numbers it is.

Funny thing is MS69 2008 Silver Eagles atwith funny reverse is now = $658.00

Go figure..........

Gordon Gekko 08-01-2009 12:30 PM

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Oh how I miss this thread...

HistoryStudent 08-01-2009 12:49 PM

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Well they NOW offer TEN per HOUSEHOLD and all they have down for me is THREE so far ....

So, GEKKO ole boy, how about a little $9,000 loan. :111: (I can handle the $23 extra)

That'll give me 12 of them there darn puppies that are calling me name every NIGHT when I try to fall asleep.

:10_1_19::thumb.aspx::aetsch::hahaha::haha::hahaha ::haha::signs8:

Now I feel like the DUCK with all the stinkin' cartoon characters! :yes:

1981 08-01-2009 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1846878)
Oh how I miss this thread...

Yeah, I feel like we're a club or something. It seems like 1,000 years ago I was really afraid I would never get one of these things, now I sold my first one for a quick $200 and the second is on the way. (My first one was delivered loose in the capsule, and it ended up with rub marks all around the edge :thumpdown)

Maybe the thread will heat up again in January when they stop making them and the ebay price is $5k for an ungraded piece.:applause_

HistoryStudent 08-01-2009 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1846983)
Yeah, I feel like we're a club or something. It seems like 1,000 years ago I was really afraid I would never get one of these things, now I sold my first one for a quick $200 and the second is on the way. (My first one was delivered loose in the capsule, and it ended up with rub marks all around the edge :thumpdown)

Maybe the thread will heat up again in January when they stop making them and the ebay price is $5k for an ungraded piece.:applause_

I pray :yes: you can GET 9 more....

Then you can have even more JOY :ARMS1:

EE_ 08-01-2009 08:07 PM

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http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0764.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0755.jpg

HistoryStudent 08-01-2009 09:50 PM

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Ain't "she" a BEAUTY! :banana::banana:

mojo1 08-01-2009 10:55 PM

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Mine's not as prooflike. No flaws I can find but not as much of a mirror background. Very nice.

HistoryStudent 08-02-2009 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo1 (Post 1847533)
Mine's not as prooflike. No flaws I can find but not as much of a mirror background. Very nice.

Beg borrow or steal and GRAB another?

:thumb.aspx::36_3_12:

Gordon Gekko 08-02-2009 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1846983)
Yeah, I feel like we're a club or something. It seems like 1,000 years ago I was really afraid I would never get one of these things, now I sold my first one for a quick $200 and the second is on the way. (My first one was delivered loose in the capsule, and it ended up with rub marks all around the edge :thumpdown)

Maybe the thread will heat up again in January when they stop making them and the ebay price is $5k for an ungraded piece.:applause_


No kidding. Good times in this thread for sure...

Are you planning on holding onto your second UHR or trying to flip it?

EE_ 08-02-2009 10:28 AM

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I know many do not appreciate this coin now, but this coin is the pinnacle of US mintage history. It may never be outdone.
Like most great works of art, they are seldom appreciated for their true value until years later.
We may not see the UHR's true value for many years.
A very small percentage of the population will own it.
It feels like the end of an era.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...G_0830-2-1.jpg

HistoryStudent 08-02-2009 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1847945)
I know many do not appreciate this coin now, but this coin is the pinnacle of US mintage history. It may never be outdone.
Like most great works of art, they are seldom appreciated for their true value until years later.
We may not see the UHR's true value for many years.
A very small percentage of the population will own it.
It feels like the end of an era.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...G_0830-2-1.jpg

AS a published novelist I could not have said that BETTER.

You. sir, are a gentleman with common sense and true wisdom. :23_28_100s:

Best wishes,

HS

1981 08-02-2009 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1847912)
No kidding. Good times in this thread for sure...

Are you planning on holding onto your second UHR or trying to flip it?

If it is in good shape I'll hold it for awhile. But I won't try and take it to the grave with me. Someday the market will coax it from me. But I will still be one of the few people who actually owned/held one. Someday, maybe 40 years from now, some kid who is just getting started in coin collecting will read about this coin in the redbook and say "man, I wonder what it would be like to have one of those. Too bad they sell for $100,000.00" And I'll say "yep, you should see one up close.":ok:

livtocruz 08-02-2009 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1848557)
If it is in good shape I'll hold it for awhile. But I won't try and take it to the grave with me. Someday the market will coax it from me. But I will still be one of the few people who actually owned/held one. Someday, maybe 40 years from now, some kid who is just getting started in coin collecting will read about this coin in the redbook and say "man, I wonder what it would be like to have one of those. Too bad they sell for $100,000.00" And I'll say "yep, you should see one up close.":ok:

And hold one. Have two myself, daughter will most likely get one.

HistoryStudent 08-03-2009 11:52 PM

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Almost added a few more to the little herd today. I want them all looking as good as all your PICTURES do.

I wonder when the US Govt. will revalue the dollar like they did in the 1970s?

I wonder?????????????????:36_3_12:


rodzm 08-04-2009 01:18 AM

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I'd like to get another one but I already have two. Im waiting to see if the mint produces a palladium and gold UHR set. Highly unlikely since the mint has less than 4 months remaining in the year and they can only be minted in 2009. Ive heard that if it is made that no more than 15,000 will be produced so if it is produced that will be a massive sellout.

One can only hope

HistoryStudent 08-04-2009 08:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1850906)
I'd like to get another one but I already have two. Im waiting to see if the mint produces a palladium and gold UHR set. Highly unlikely since the mint has less than 4 months remaining in the year and they can only be minted in 2009. Ive heard that if it is made that no more than 15,000 will be produced so if it is produced that will be a massive sellout.

One can only hope

That new web site for the UHR pushs it.

It is one of the very few PM coins available.

They always talk a LOT about making more of what they are supposed to do by their duty mission and honor; but frankly I rather see a little than hear a lot. But that's just me.

By duty mission and honor I mean perhaps

the 4 gold buffalos in proof
the 4 gold buffalos in MS "w" mint

the 4 gold eagles in proof
the 4 gold eagles in MS "w" mint

the 4 platinum eagles in proof
the 4 platinum eagles in MS

the 1 silver eagle in proof

But I don't blame them if they are all out of available PMs, right?:thumb.aspx:

:signs14:

P.S. buy what you can when you can - I forsee a time when they'll really be important - from NOW on.

PS#2 When GOLD hits over 950 like now the UHR hits 1339

when gold hits 1000 UHR hits 1389

when gold hits 1100 UHR hits $1,489 evey!

HistoryStudent 08-05-2009 11:17 PM

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I think the UHR might go UP tomorrow another $50 to around $1339.00 because gold will be over $950 - I may be wrong about the day they correct THURSDAYS.

But it will soon SCOOT like a cat with a string of firecrackers on its TAIL.


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hernancortes 08-06-2009 10:43 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Sales of UHR spike by 3,800 last week, following relaxed order limit.

http://numismaster.com/images/upload...tstats0818.jpg

HistoryStudent 08-06-2009 01:46 PM

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I could NOT help IT - I HAD TO place an order - :Surrender::cry1: - I hope they are PROOF LIKE! :36_1_32v:

johnstevens 08-06-2009 02:11 PM

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I wish there was some really good pics of these around. I already tried Tom but he doesn't have one to shoot. I'm so on the fence about this coin...

Gordon Gekko 08-06-2009 02:16 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1855246)
I wish there was some really good pics of these around. I already tried Tom but he doesn't have one to shoot. I'm so on the fence about this coin...

I can take some pics of mine when I get off of work tonight. I could have them posted by 11:30pm at the earliest.

HistoryStudent 08-06-2009 02:40 PM

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:Surrender::signs14::36_1_25:http://www.uhrgoldcoin.gov/?group=Br...0relief%20gold

all the pictures you'd need maybe?

:452:

LOAD the HOME gae and use the BUTTON to turn the coin anyway you want.

It's LIKE holding the work of art.

johnstevens 08-07-2009 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1855260)
I can take some pics of mine when I get off of work tonight. I could have them posted by 11:30pm at the earliest.

Cool! Thanks!

johnstevens 08-07-2009 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1855303)
:Surrender::signs14::36_1_25:http://www.uhrgoldcoin.gov/?group=Br...0relief%20gold

all the pictures you'd need maybe?

:452:

LOAD the HOME gae and use the BUTTON to turn the coin anyway you want.

It's LIKE holding the work of art.

Very cool. How thick are these compared to the Eagle and the Buffalo?

HistoryStudent 08-07-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1856852)
Very cool. How thick are these compared to the Eagle and the Buffalo?

They are two $10 gold BLANKS seated together - so they are twice as thick.

They were a copy of a PATTERN coin that is ONE OF THE BEST 100 coins ever made.

wow.

:36_3_12:

1981 08-07-2009 11:37 PM

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Well, I got my second UHRDE. It's kind of strange, the obverse is real mirror like, not like the first one at all. The reverse has a more satin finish, like the first one I had. Almost like someone glued two different coins together. Ideas? This time it was loose in the capsule again, rattling around, and even got out of the wood holder and was bouncing around inside the wooden box. :bear_angry: Was everyone else's loose in the plastic holder? Other than all that I think I may have this one graded, looks perfect to me, even prooflike on the obverse.

livtocruz 08-08-2009 12:54 PM

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First one was tight in the plastic holder and in the Mahogany box. Will post again when I receive the second one. Is it possible that the mint workers are getting sloppy? Dunno? Anyone want to weigh in on this question?

Master_Ho 08-09-2009 04:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 1858416)
First one was tight in the plastic holder and in the Mahogany box. Will post again when I receive the second one. Is it possible that the mint workers are getting sloppy? Dunno? Anyone want to weigh in on this question?

Its more than possible.........

I have four - all are getting graded................((I have my reasons))........we've had plastic holders not sitting right in their boxes.....coins that have never been out of the plastic holders dinged...........remember also, its 24 kt gold - very very soft............so, while in theory they should ALL be coming out at MS 69 or 70...........they are not.

EE_ 08-09-2009 10:30 AM

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I'm for graded/slabbed MS 70 UHR coins. I personally don't care for fancy boxes...but many still do.
I believe these coins will be sought after in the years to come, and we will only begin to see their popularity rise after they are discontinued.
Many believe there are too many being produced...I disagree.
Yes, it would be nice to have one of only 10 produced, with the price reaching the stratosphere, but the average collector would have no interest in obtaining one. The wealthy would have them locked away with only an occasional sale of one at auction.
In my opinion, in order to have a long term healthy collectors market, there must be enough of something for the general population to want to collect them.
I'd like to see 87,000 produced, give or take, with a few thousand 70's and only 1,500+ in First Strike.
I also believe many collectors of gold coins, those that like to collect variety...this coin will be on the must own list!
We will see.
In time, I think an MS 70 First Strike should be priced at $5,000 (hyper-inflation price $1,000,000)

tekhen 08-09-2009 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1859501)
I'm for graded/slabbed MS 70 UHR coins. I personally don't care for fancy boxes...but many still do.
I believe these coins will be sought after in the years to come, and we will only begin to see their popularity rise after they are discontinued.
Many believe there are too many being produced...I disagree.
Yes, it would be nice to have one of only 10 produced, with the price reaching the stratosphere, but the average collector would have no interest in obtaining one. The wealthy would have them locked away with only an occasional sale of one at auction.
In my opinion, in order to have a long term healthy collectors market, there must be enough of something for the general population to want to collect them.
I'd like to see 87,000 produced, give or take, with a few thousand 70's and only 1,500+ in First Strike.
I also believe many collectors of gold coins, those that like to collect variety...this coin will be on the must own list!
We will see.
In time, I think an MS 70 First Strike should be priced at $5,000 (hyper-inflation price $1,000,000)

Question...
I do not understand the 'wanting' of the "first strike"/"Early Releases"... pedigree?

From the US Mint...

"First Strike"
The United States Mint has received inquiries from consumers regarding use of the term "first strike." The term has appeared in connection with the advertising and grading of 2005 and 2006 silver, gold, and platinum proof and bullion American Eagle Coins, and the new 2006 24-karat proof and bullion American Buffalo Gold Coins. Currently, there is no widely-accepted and standardized numismatic industry definition of "first strike." Coin dealers and grading services may use this term in varying ways. Some base its use on dates appearing on United States Mint product packaging or packing slips, or on the dates of product releases or ceremonial coin strike events. Consumers should carefully review the following information along with each dealer�s or grading service�s definition of "first strike" when considering a purchase of coins with this designation.

The United States Mint has not designated any 2005 or 2006 American Eagle Coins or 2006 American Buffalo Coins as "first strikes," nor do we track the order in which we mint such coins during their production. The United States Mint held a launch ceremony for the 2006 American Buffalo Gold Coin on June 20, 2006, two days before its release on June 22, at which two proof coins and two uncirculated coins were ceremonially struck. However, those coins were not individually identified and were put in regular inventory after the ceremony. The United States Mint did not hold any striking ceremonies for the 2005 or 2006 American Eagle Coins.

The United States Mint strives to produce coins of consistently high quality throughout the course of production. Our strict quality controls assure that coins of this caliber are produced from each die set throughout its useful life. Our manufacturing facilities use a die set as long as the quality of resulting coins meets United States Mint standards, and then replace the dies, continually changing sets throughout the production process. For bullion American Eagle and American Buffalo Coins, the United States Mint makes an average of about 6,000 coins from one die set. For proof versions of the 2006 American Buffalo Coins, the yield is an average of about 1,500 coins per die set. For proof versions of the American Eagle Coins, the yield is an average of about 300-500 coins per die set. This means that coins may be minted from new die sets at any point and at multiple times while production of a coin is ongoing, not just the first day or at the beginning of production. To put this in context, in 2005 the United States Mint produced approximately 356,500 one-ounce gold, 8,891,000 silver, and 6,300 one-ounce platinum American Eagle Bullion Coins.

American Eagle and American Buffalo Coins are not individually numbered and the United States Mint does not keep track of the order or date of minting of individual bullion or proof coins. The United States Mint begins production several weeks before these coins are scheduled to be released. By the release dates for 2005 and 2006 bullion coins, the United States Mint had already minted approximately 50% of the projected sales numbers for these coins. Any dates on shipping boxes containing uncirculated bullion coins sent to Authorized Purchasers are strictly for quality control and accounting purposes at the United States Mint at West Point. The date on the box represents the date that the box was packed, verified as 500 ounces and sealed, and the date of packaging does not necessarily correlate with the date of manufacture. The date on shipping labels and packing slips for proof coins, which are sent directly to United States Mint customers from our fulfillment center, is the date the item was packed and shipped by the fulfillment center. The other numbers on the shipping label and packing slip are used to track the order and for quality control.


I understand the reasons for having certain modern coins graded (one being the UHR) but the TGPs pedigree nomenclature is simply a sales ploy and has nothing to do with the coin... IMO.

Wouldn't it be better to keep the shipping box w/the post mark date, since no on can truly say when their coin was struck?

EE_ 08-09-2009 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 1859570)
Question...
I do not understand the 'wanting' of the "first strike"/"Early Releases"... pedigree?

From the US Mint...

"First Strike"
The United States Mint has received inquiries from consumers regarding use of the term "first strike." The term has appeared in connection with the advertising and grading of 2005 and 2006 silver, gold, and platinum proof and bullion American Eagle Coins, and the new 2006 24-karat proof and bullion American Buffalo Gold Coins. Currently, there is no widely-accepted and standardized numismatic industry definition of "first strike." Coin dealers and grading services may use this term in varying ways. Some base its use on dates appearing on United States Mint product packaging or packing slips, or on the dates of product releases or ceremonial coin strike events. Consumers should carefully review the following information along with each dealer�s or grading service�s definition of "first strike" when considering a purchase of coins with this designation.

The United States Mint has not designated any 2005 or 2006 American Eagle Coins or 2006 American Buffalo Coins as "first strikes," nor do we track the order in which we mint such coins during their production. The United States Mint held a launch ceremony for the 2006 American Buffalo Gold Coin on June 20, 2006, two days before its release on June 22, at which two proof coins and two uncirculated coins were ceremonially struck. However, those coins were not individually identified and were put in regular inventory after the ceremony. The United States Mint did not hold any striking ceremonies for the 2005 or 2006 American Eagle Coins.

The United States Mint strives to produce coins of consistently high quality throughout the course of production. Our strict quality controls assure that coins of this caliber are produced from each die set throughout its useful life. Our manufacturing facilities use a die set as long as the quality of resulting coins meets United States Mint standards, and then replace the dies, continually changing sets throughout the production process. For bullion American Eagle and American Buffalo Coins, the United States Mint makes an average of about 6,000 coins from one die set. For proof versions of the 2006 American Buffalo Coins, the yield is an average of about 1,500 coins per die set. For proof versions of the American Eagle Coins, the yield is an average of about 300-500 coins per die set. This means that coins may be minted from new die sets at any point and at multiple times while production of a coin is ongoing, not just the first day or at the beginning of production. To put this in context, in 2005 the United States Mint produced approximately 356,500 one-ounce gold, 8,891,000 silver, and 6,300 one-ounce platinum American Eagle Bullion Coins.

American Eagle and American Buffalo Coins are not individually numbered and the United States Mint does not keep track of the order or date of minting of individual bullion or proof coins. The United States Mint begins production several weeks before these coins are scheduled to be released. By the release dates for 2005 and 2006 bullion coins, the United States Mint had already minted approximately 50% of the projected sales numbers for these coins. Any dates on shipping boxes containing uncirculated bullion coins sent to Authorized Purchasers are strictly for quality control and accounting purposes at the United States Mint at West Point. The date on the box represents the date that the box was packed, verified as 500 ounces and sealed, and the date of packaging does not necessarily correlate with the date of manufacture. The date on shipping labels and packing slips for proof coins, which are sent directly to United States Mint customers from our fulfillment center, is the date the item was packed and shipped by the fulfillment center. The other numbers on the shipping label and packing slip are used to track the order and for quality control.


I understand the reasons for having certain modern coins graded (one being the UHR) but the TGPs pedigree nomenclature is simply a sales ploy and has nothing to do with the coin... IMO.

Wouldn't it be better to keep the shipping box w/the post mark date, since no on can truly say when their coin was struck?

I like to be able to store my coins in a small package that protects them.
(unless you have a really large safe) Storing a perfect coin is a +.
Throwing a UHR in a box only in it's rattle capsule, just don't get it!
First Strike is BS to a point, but there is a smaller segment of collectors that like to own coins that are of the first to hit the market (designated in the first 30 days of issue),
Kind of like the people lining up all night to get the first I-Phone in their hands.
They could wait a month and get the same thing, but they want the first one's!
First Strike is not about what I think...it's what other people want.

prophet 08-09-2009 08:01 PM

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Looks like the prices for UHR at flea bay is trending down..........

rodzm 08-10-2009 03:47 AM

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Many people will say First Strike/Early Releases is a bunch of crock and a sales ploy.

Bottom line is that it is a sales ploy that increases the amount you get when it comes to resale. People can think all they want but if getting the designation meansa higher resale value then I am all up for it.

Master_Ho 08-10-2009 04:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1860827)
Many people will say First Strike/Early Releases is a bunch of crock and a sales ploy.

Bottom line is that it is a sales ploy that increases the amount you get when it comes to resale. People can think all they want but if getting the designation meansa higher resale value then I am all up for it.

One of the best reasons to get this particular coin graded!!!

There are more!!

*s*

Bill57 08-10-2009 12:46 PM

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Like "certificates of authenticity"?

johnstevens 08-10-2009 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prophet (Post 1860254)
Looks like the prices for UHR at flea bay is trending down..........

And that's what scares me! As nice as the coin is, and it is, I'm beginning to feel that is one is overpriced and will be glutted on the market once they stop making them.

YMMV, of course! Now if they were the same price as the Gold Buffalo's then I might be more interested.

HistoryStudent 08-10-2009 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnstevens (Post 1861322)
And that's what scares me! As nice as the coin is, and it is, I'm beginning to feel that is one is overpriced and will be glutted on the market once they stop making them.

YMMV, of course! Now if they were the same price as the Gold Buffalo's then I might be more interested.

Coin Collectors are a really large NUMBER in Population.

Down the road - they'll all want this coin. PERIOD! :sleepy13:

tekhen 08-10-2009 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1860827)
Many people will say First Strike/Early Releases is a bunch of crock and a sales ploy.

Bottom line is that it is a sales ploy that increases the amount you get when it comes to resale. People can think all they want but if getting the designation meansa higher resale value then I am all up for it.

Then let me ask you this...
in let's say 10 years time, (not accounting for the price of Au) if you were wanting a UHR would you purchase a raw, slabbed MS 70 or PCGS FS MS 70, with the FS being the most expensive?

I'm not questioning the TPGs, as they say... "caveat emptor".

What I will say is, FS/ER has...
nothing to do with the Sheldon Scale
nothing to do with rarity/mintage
nothing to do with how a coin is struck i.e. proof, reverse proof, business strike etc.
nothing to do with an error
nothing to do with when a coin is actually struck since the TGPs can not tell anyone when a coin is produced

If one purchases a FS/ER at a good price than... good but when some are going for double what you can get from the mint... not I.

HistoryStudent 08-10-2009 10:42 PM

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My recent UHR order was SUPPOSED to ship 8-7-09 - main word "supposed."

Now it is 8-10-09 and it's "still in PROCESS!"

I wonder if'in they's BE RUNNIN" out of the PUPPIES?

Tee tee tee.

:111::111::111:

diversified2 08-10-2009 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1862285)
My recent UHR order was SUPPOSED to ship 8-7-09 - main word "supposed."
Now it is 8-10-09 and it's "still in PROCESS!"
I wonder if'in they's BE RUNNIN" out of the PUPPIES?
Tee tee tee.
:111::111::111:

You bought them all??????????????????????? :thumb.aspx::36_1_32v::hissyfit_m::adore::beer: Same ole Mickey Mouse Mint

HistoryStudent 08-10-2009 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1862290)
You bought them all??????????????????????? :thumb.aspx::36_1_32v::hissyfit_m::adore::beer: Same ole Mickey Mouse Mint

Gee I thought they raised the LIMIT to 1,000 and it was only 10...

:thumb.aspx::cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1::111:

diversified2 08-10-2009 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1862320)
Gee I thought they raised the LIMIT to 1,000 and it was only 10...

:thumb.aspx::cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1::111:

:RockOn::36_3_16::111::banana::4_1_72:Trying to corner the market are we? Any relatives named Hunt? :emotions16:Just kidding! I've been thinking about adding some more myself.

livtocruz 08-11-2009 02:34 PM

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:36_1_34::36_1_34:

Woo Woo, just got my second today. Will wait for the weekend, good sunlight and look at them with the Misses. Want her opinion as to which one to send in for grading. Or, what do you think, Should I say F-it and send both in? By the way, it was shipped (got the email) yesterday. Sorry HS.

HistoryStudent 08-11-2009 02:57 PM

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Love the handle - Princess ELITE myself and now MOST TRAVELED too. (after 20 something princess cruises)

Oh well, back to the subject at hand....

The "no-counts" pun-intended - at the MINT(Y) have rearranged their shipping date for me....:4_1_72::4_1_72:

Now the brain dead - opps I'm sorry - have notified me of AUGUST 26th from a SURE (right on they ARE NOT!) August 7th when I ordered.

after all they have killed

the 1 ounce the 1/2 the 1/4 the 1/10 th
gold eagle
silver eagle proof
buffalo
platinum

in BOTH proof and uncirculated - heck that's only
25 coins - and all they make is ONE and they can't find IT!!

Too many CIVIL SERPENTS working there who can't find the ONE product they make........

:111::111::111::111:

I'm not mad just having a tad little of misguided untasteful COMEDY....

livtocruz 08-11-2009 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1863274)
Love the handle - Princess ELITE myself and now MOST TRAVELED too. (after 20 something princess cruises)

Oh well, back to the subject at hand....

The "no-counts" pun-intended - at the MINT(Y) have rearranged their shipping date for me....:4_1_72::4_1_72:

Now the brain dead - opps I'm sorry - have notified me of AUGUST 26th from a SURE (right on they ARE NOT!) August 7th when I ordered.

after all they have killed

the 1 ounce the 1/2 the 1/4 the 1/10 th
gold eagle
silver eagle proof
buffalo
platinum

in BOTH proof and uncirculated - heck that's only
25 coins - and all they make is ONE and they can't find IT!!

:111::111::111::111:

I'm not mad just having a tad little of misguided untasteful COMEDY....



:cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1: and then :111::111::111::111:

RCI Diamond cruiser here.

HistoryStudent 08-17-2009 09:43 PM

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Gosh the US Mint shipped today - well, I'm a tad surprised. :111:

However at the LA Money show they sold a ton of them brought in by trusty MINT boyz and Mr. Moy! :111:

Anyway - last NIGHT I snipped another MS70 UHR for too much money. :signs14: ($1,700.00)

But I wanted a few more slabbed - IN CASE they stop making them this year or sooner. :111:

Also I grabbed a MS62 1363 Venice Ducat tonight also. :111:

Love them things from a 1100 year old EMPIRE. :biggrin:

brigadeer 09-04-2009 05:51 PM

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Here is my baby. My first slabbed coin ever. Really impressed with the display/presentation of the slab.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/brig2221/UHR.jpg


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HistoryStudent 09-04-2009 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brigadeer (Post 1904459)
Here is my baby. My first slabbed coin ever. Really impressed with the display/presentation of the slab.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/brig2221/UHR.jpg

LOOKS like IT IS * P R O O F L I K E *

you are really LUCKY! Or GOD just LOVES YA! :36_3_12:

1981 10-28-2009 12:11 AM

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Hey guys, forgive me for posting this if it's come up before, but I hadn't seen it anywhere. I found this guy selling UHR boxes that have been modified to hold NGC or PCGS holders, and it struck me as a brillaint idea. The worst part about grading an UHR is losing the box, but now you can have your cake and eat it to!

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...item35a3e58ba6

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1247596083

goldfingerer 10-28-2009 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 1994562)
Hey guys, forgive me for posting this if it's come up before, but I hadn't seen it anywhere. I found this guy selling UHR boxes that have been modified to hold NGC or PCGS holders, and it struck me as a brillaint idea. The worst part about grading an UHR is losing the box, but now you can have your cake and eat it to!

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Ultra-High-...item35a3e58ba6

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1247596083

That is a really neat idea. You'll probably see lots of other mint boxes do the same thing if this idea takes off.

goldwish 10-29-2009 03:53 PM

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hmmmm that is really nice looking!

Apocalypto 10-29-2009 06:05 PM

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I agree. It's a great idea. Smart person.

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 11-02-2009 01:09 AM

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FWIW, a dealer friend of mine told me his last submission of 26 UHR's netted him 16 MS-70's. He said the submission before that was 70/30 in favor of 70's - I took it to mean 70% of the order came back 70's... And, he said his initial submission of 30 UHR's, when they first came out, was 16 70's out of 20!

All to PCGS. Nothing below a 69.

Timing is everything my friends... Strike while the 70's are hot... So, for messily poh people likes myself and probably most here, using his odds: 2 of my three UHR's should come back 70's. Mine will be packed 2-morrow and then on there way to Newport Beach, CA...

rodzm 12-02-2009 01:06 AM

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Well fellas it looks like the UHR has once again changed prices. It will now cost you a cool $1,539

1981 12-02-2009 04:17 AM

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Any bets on how long these will be available after Jan. 1? At $1500+ they might be around awhile. I'm thinking at least through February.

rodzm 12-02-2009 04:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981 (Post 2054928)
Any bets on how long these will be available after Jan. 1? At $1500+ they might be around awhile. I'm thinking at least through February.

Im guessing the mint will suspend mintage of UHRs very soon. It is not in their best interest to sit on an item that is not moving, besides they can allocate the gold they wouldve used to produce GAEs or more fractionals.

Youre right though, at $1,500+ not many people will shell out money. If gold goes between $1200 and $1249 there will be another increase to $1,589. Me thinks that will happen next week

livtocruz 12-02-2009 05:57 AM

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Got an email yesterday that my third UHR was shipped. This means I should have it in my grubby little hands by the weekend. :565:

foolsgold 12-02-2009 07:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 2054772)
Well fellas it looks like the UHR has once again changed prices. It will now cost you a cool $1,539

Got mine at less than spot.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit shipped on 03/03/2009

HistoryStudent 12-02-2009 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 2055041)
Got mine at less than spot.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit shipped on 03/03/2009

Funny how that happens when the dollar is printed at 33 to 50% extra per year, right?

:111:

Apocalypto 12-02-2009 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 2055041)
Got mine at less than spot.

2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit shipped on 03/03/2009

I'm in the same boat. It's a good boat.

I had left it in the mint box for grading purposes, and this week I finally packaged it up and sent it off to PCGS. Crossing my fingers on a First Strike MS70.

HistoryStudent 12-02-2009 12:36 PM

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:emotions16:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 2055422)
I'm in the same boat. It's a good boat.

I had left it in the mint box for grading purposes, and this week I finally packaged it up and sent it off to PCGS. Crossing my fingers on a First Strike MS70.

:emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::e motions16:


Down the road that will transfer to the YOUNG UNS who will be OLD UNS!

And will buy a small hut on some river.

I have a old Brutus coin from 42BC in MS63 - that men died for at 1/4 the weight of your slabbed baby.

Killed at the battle of Phillipi the second one - where BRUTUS fell on his sword as OCTAVIAN aka AGUSTUS CAESAR was closing in with Mark Anthony and their armies/legions.

Seems that BRUTUS hide the the treasure chest in the dirt and they found it and dug it up ten years ago. Thousands of gold coins in MINT state. One for each of the dead losers.

Someday I'll figure out how to use my digital camera and post some grand pictures.

Master_Ho 12-03-2009 12:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2055538)
:emotions16:

:emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::e motions16:


Down the road that will transfer to the YOUNG UNS who will be OLD UNS!

And will buy a small hut on some river.

I have a old Brutus coin from 42BC in MS63 - that men died for at 1/4 the weight of your slabbed baby.

Killed at the battle of Phillipi the second one - where BRUTUS fell on his sword as OCTAVIAN aka AGUSTUS CAESAR was closing in with Mark Anthony and their armies/legions.

Seems that BRUTUS hide the the treasure chest in the dirt and they found it and dug it up ten years ago. Thousands of gold coins in MINT state. One for each of the dead losers.

Someday I'll figure out how to use my digital camera and post some grand pictures.

Man, I would LOVE to see that - don't see too many of those old coins in ANY MS state!!!

BoatingAccident 12-03-2009 12:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2055538)
:emotions16:

:emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::e motions16:


Down the road that will transfer to the YOUNG UNS who will be OLD UNS!

And will buy a small hut on some river.

I have a old Brutus coin from 42BC in MS63 - that men died for at 1/4 the weight of your slabbed baby.

Killed at the battle of Phillipi the second one - where BRUTUS fell on his sword as OCTAVIAN aka AGUSTUS CAESAR was closing in with Mark Anthony and their armies/legions.

Seems that BRUTUS hide the the treasure chest in the dirt and they found it and dug it up ten years ago. Thousands of gold coins in MINT state. One for each of the dead losers.

Someday I'll figure out how to use my digital camera and post some grand pictures.

HS, you don't need to post pictures. Though, we'd like to see them. This post, well, humbles some of us who are new to PM's.

You've taught a lot of us a lot of history, and should be recognized for it.

HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 01:15 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I've got several coins that link to one-another.

A Solidus from the ROMANS in the EAST from 441 B.C. was to pay off ATTILA the HUN for not killing everyone in Constantinoble. Funny thing it's also MS at MS62 but that's the year that the City of VENICE was founded 441 B.C when the folks ran from the hills and hid in the swamps of soon to be VENICE. Imagine that the most famous city of almost 14 centuries was founded from a PANIC from the HUNS.

Venice lasted until 1797 when Napoleon sacked the city and it fell. That's about 1,356 years VENICE lasted - I've got several Ducats including a similar coin a Zecc 1789-1797 MS62 from the DOGE or (English -DUKE like KING) of Venice.

A 1343 Ducat was from the DOGE burried in St. Marks in Venice - it's only a AU58 - however. But get this: in 1345 the BLACK PLAGUE hit Europe and VENICE had it the worst for 30 to 40% of the CITY died. That started all the GUILDS LEAGUES and UNIONS because all the LABOR market was absolutely decimated - wiped out.

I also have a Solidus 625-629 GUESS what that's the Byzantine emperor who regained Jeruselem and beat the MOSLEMS for a short time. AU55 - but beautiful with all the rulers on it. The rare one.

I'm in many more things like the old LOUIES' in France Like a XV Louis d'or 1753 Paris MS62 - or a 2 Louis d'or 1786 Louis the XVI who kinda lost his head - watch out Obama - I'm sorry - but it happens. That's also a MS62.

I've got the highest graded Ducat from the Netherlands in 1750 too. An MS62when they owned CEYLON or Sir Lanka which just bought 10 tonnes of gold from the IMF with money they borrowed from the stupids at the IMF - what dopes. Sir Lanks is not - the IMF is absolutey stupid they sold about a $100 an ounce short from todays price.

I've got many many Napoleons but I don't want to bore you to death. I love to tie in history with everything I collect.

Thanks for all your kind words.

Knight Rider 12-03-2009 02:38 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm thinking of ordering a UHR before they stop making them. Now the question is, buy a new one from the mint, buy a MS70 from eBay, or buy a FS MS70 from eBay. I'm kind of leaning towards just ordering one from the mint cause eBayers seem to hate people from Canada (what gives...).

oldmansmith 12-03-2009 03:59 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2057816)
I'm thinking of ordering a UHR before they stop making them. Now the question is, buy a new one from the mint, buy a MS70 from eBay, or buy a FS MS70 from eBay. I'm kind of leaning towards just ordering one from the mint cause eBayers seem to hate people from Canada (what gives...).

If you aren't all hot about the MS 70 designation, you can get one graded MS-69 at modern coin mart for the same price as the mint.

http://moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

I like the coin I have, don't really care what the grade is, but the mint box is big for a "stash."

Knight Rider 12-03-2009 04:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmansmith (Post 2057976)
If you aren't all hot about the MS 70 designation, you can get one graded MS-69 at modern coin mart for the same price as the mint.

http://moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

I like the coin I have, don't really care what the grade is, but the mint box is big for a "stash."

Thanks for the link. In all honesty, there MS70 pricing wasn't bad either. Too bad they don't ship to Canada.

HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 04:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2057986)
Thanks for the link. In all honesty, there MS70 pricing wasn't bad either. Too bad they don't ship to Canada.

Call them and talk to them.

Maybe if you forward them a check etc. work on something - they are really hungry - they even called me today.

HS

best wishes - :wavey:

Master_Ho 12-03-2009 07:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2057816)
I'm thinking of ordering a UHR before they stop making them. Now the question is, buy a new one from the mint, buy a MS70 from eBay, or buy a FS MS70 from eBay. I'm kind of leaning towards just ordering one from the mint cause eBayers seem to hate people from Canada (what gives...).

Hard one - I would order from the Mint - the MS70 is priced a lot more than the MS69........odds are you would get at LEAST an MS69........

But if you really want an MS70 and you can afford the premium - the MS70 will certainly be worth MORE than the MS69.......but if you are not a big numismatic collector and just want the coin - you will probably not be able to tell the difference by eye and, often, with a loop.

Not sure that was any help at all - but there you go...........

I ordered three from the Mint - I got 3 MS69s and one MS68.

HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 08:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
The MINT now was shipping PROOF LIKES recently.

That means they really shine.

Listen to MASTER HO (HO HO HO)

He's rather sharp. Besides if you only get one the bOX is BIG and the BOOK is free (kinda) too.

I'd rather have the first one in the BOX from the mint and the next one slabbed.

so if I had 7 four would be BOXED from the mint and three would be slabbed.

BOX first slab next...............:36_3_16:

Knight Rider 12-03-2009 08:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll order one from the mint in the next day or so :).

Master_Ho 12-03-2009 08:19 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2058413)
The MINT now was shipping PROOF LIKES recently.

That means they really shine.

Listen to MASTER HO (HO HO HO)

He's rather sharp. Besides if you only get one the bOX is BIG and the BOOK is free (kinda) too.

I'd rather have the first one in the BOX from the mint and the next one slabbed.

so if I had 7 four would be BOXED from the mint and three would be slabbed.

BOX first slab next...............:36_3_16:

I got all four slabbed - but they all rest comfortably in their boxes!!!

prophet 12-03-2009 08:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
[QUOTE=Master_Ho;2058374]Hard one - I would order from the Mint - the MS70 is priced a lot more than the MS69........odds are you would get at LEAST an MS69........

But if you really want an MS70 and you can afford the premium - the MS70 will certainly be worth MORE than the MS69.......but if you are not a big numismatic collector and just want the coin - you will probably not be able to tell the difference by eye and, often, with a loop.

Not sure that was any help at all - but there you go...........

I ordered three from the Mint - I got 3 MS69s and one MS68.[/QUOTE]

Master HO!

How did ya di that? :36_1_32v:

Buy 3 ONE FREE offer? :36_3_12:

HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 08:52 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://coins.www.collectors-society....pleSetID=64698

That's a NICE set of saints - what'll think?

:shine:

Master_Ho 12-03-2009 08:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
[quote=prophet;2058469]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 2058374)
Hard one - I would order from the Mint - the MS70 is priced a lot more than the MS69........odds are you would get at LEAST an MS69........

But if you really want an MS70 and you can afford the premium - the MS70 will certainly be worth MORE than the MS69.......but if you are not a big numismatic collector and just want the coin - you will probably not be able to tell the difference by eye and, often, with a loop.

Not sure that was any help at all - but there you go...........

I ordered three from the Mint - I got 3 MS69s and one MS68.[/QUOTE]

Master HO!

How did ya di that? :36_1_32v:

Buy 3 ONE FREE offer? :36_3_12:



I wish - it was a typo............

Sometimes the fingers go in the right places - sometimes they don't!

Its another Tao thing!!!

Cheers!

Master_Ho 12-03-2009 08:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2058504)
http://coins.www.collectors-society....pleSetID=64698

That's a NICE set of saints - what'll think?

:shine:

No kidding - most of us are happy to have one or two!!!!

HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 08:58 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://coins.www.collectors-society....pleSetID=27371

Here's a fine set of MODERNS - not bad for a "BEGINNER"

:23_1_22:

Bet that cost a couple of GRAND!


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HistoryStudent 12-03-2009 09:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Master HO HO HO HO

A MS68?:cry1:

I'd run out to the garage grab the TWO POUND SLUDGE and WHAMO :emotions16:

back in the MINT BOX with bell book and candle it'll go - MS68 why not a MS63?:36_1_34:

You have MY KINDA luck - Murphy's Law in Spades - if there's one chance in ten I'd win the worst spot.

May GOD Bless your MS68 "PEA-PICKIN' heart" - Tennessee Ernie Ford.

prophet 12-03-2009 11:32 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2058524)
http://coins.www.collectors-society....pleSetID=27371

Here's a fine set of MODERNS - not bad for a "BEGINNER"

:23_1_22:

Bet that cost a couple of GRAND!

Whoaaaa.....thats a beginner?

i am a sub prime beginner........... :s15:

HistoryStudent 12-04-2009 07:57 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prophet (Post 2058758)
Whoaaaa.....thats a beginner?

i am a sub prime beginner........... :s15:

Way out-of-bounds UNDERSTATEMENT - sorry.

That was a rather good collection, however.

MUCHO DINERO! :coolbeer:

HistoryStudent 12-10-2009 02:00 PM

108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/...ArticleId=8855


:bull-smile::bull-smile:

7,027 of the PLATINUM PROOF - the one world one....

hernancortes 12-10-2009 03:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Mint sez it's the last chance to get one... goes off sale Jan. 1

livtocruz 12-10-2009 03:44 PM

Re: 108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2068659)
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/...ArticleId=8855


:bull-smile::bull-smile:

7,027 of the PLATINUM PROOF - the one world one....

Nope, 108,277 minted this year so far, and I got JUST three. :23_30_104:

voidus 12-11-2009 11:09 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Looks like only 20 days left to purchase the coin, Dec 31,2009.
Wonder what the total body count will be?
Now at $1539 a crack.
http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...4708&langId=-1

BoatingAccident 12-11-2009 01:45 PM

Re: 108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2068849)
Nope, 108,277 minted this year so far, and I got JUST three. :23_30_104:

That's fantastic livtocruz! I've only got one that I bought back when it was $1239. I wish I could have grabbed another one at least.

Any thoughts on the 108K mintage? Is that low/high? I'm very curious about these coins, once they've stopped being minted.

Knight Rider 12-11-2009 02:00 PM

Re: 108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 2070784)
That's fantastic livtocruz! I've only got one that I bought back when it was $1239. I wish I could have grabbed another one at least.

Any thoughts on the 108K mintage? Is that low/high? I'm very curious about these coins, once they've stopped being minted.

I'm curious about this as well. I think the value will go up once they stop being minted. I'm probably going to order one, but want to wait until the price drops $50 since we've been averaging below the $1150 mark for a few days now.

tekhen 12-11-2009 02:43 PM

Re: 108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 2070784)
Any thoughts on the 108K mintage? Is that low/high? I'm very curious about these coins, once they've stopped being minted.

It's high... For a modern coin you want to see 10k and under.
e.g. - 1 oz 2008-W Buffalo Unc & Proof

With that said, the UHR is a one-off coin, hopefully to be minted only in 2009 (similar to commemoratives). With the UHR being the culmination of St. Gauden's hopes... maybe, just maybe this high mintage will not effect its numismatic value.

Only time will tell.

b.t.w. last day to purchase the UHR from the US Mint is 31 Dec 2009

HistoryStudent 12-11-2009 03:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://www.americangoldcoinshop.com/...le-mintage.php

Yep, try and buy a 1931 -D

:5_1_120::5_1_120::5_1_120::111:

http://www.pcgs.com/prices/PriceGuid...+Gaudens+%2420

http://www.coinfacts.com/double_eagl...nt_gaudens.htm

Knight Rider 12-16-2009 09:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
UHR price dropped $50 today.

HistoryStudent 12-16-2009 11:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2079854)
UHR price dropped $50 today.

AND the WONDERFUL (HS NOTE: but sadly precious metal limited and severely lacking in products to sell) U.S. MINT sent me a PERSONAL "ONLY 10 more business days until they shut down UHR sales - NOTICE!

BUY before they run out still cheap - a HIGH RELIEF (not ULTRA!) 1907 MS69 sold for $600,000.00 plus privately last month.

I like my good friend who LIVES-TO-CRUISE (my spelling) appreciate the few we have. I even like them in the MINT BOXES.

The NEW ones L@@K even more PROOF LIKE than my first babies - that's what they are - MY BABIES - like in LORD OF THE RINGS - rubbing my hands together - :congrats::congrats::congrats:


"MY PRECIOUS-IOUS!"

Apocalypto 12-17-2009 02:04 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
HS, should I buy another?

Yes __
No __

Thanks.

:bull-smile:

newmisty 12-18-2009 01:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
DAMN YOU HS!!!!

I guess I AM going to beg borrow steal....I just HAVE to have a UHR now.... DAMNIT!

HistoryStudent 12-18-2009 03:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
If you have one buy another; :signs14:

If you have FIVE buy another. :signs14:

If you have seven or eight; that's enough. :ok:

But I wish you could have 20.... :bull-smile:

If you don't have ONE - well that's blowing the chance since 1907 - that's one hell of a long time, right?

Knight Rider 12-18-2009 03:36 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I should buy one on December 31st at 2:59PM and then ask PCGS to create a "Last Strike" designation. :D

HistoryStudent 12-18-2009 03:42 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2083148)
I should buy one on December 31st at 2:59PM and then ask PCGS to create a "Last Strike" designation. :D

:111::sarcasm:

So PUUR-FECT TIGER.

The slabbing services have created all kinds of extra ways to make money.

That's HUMAN creativeness - hell L@@K at the US dollar since 1913 - there was 100 Million people then an only around 30 BILLION paper dollars (because gold backed it!)

Now we have three times the PEOPLE and 666 times the MONEY.

Opps 666!!!

30 divided by 20,0000 = 666.666666 that's really bad.........


:signs14:

newmisty 12-18-2009 03:44 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
^ naughty boy! :tongue_ma:

EE_ 12-18-2009 07:04 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I just got this one back.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...30-2-1-1-1.jpg

livtocruz 12-18-2009 10:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2079969)
AND the WONDERFUL (HS NOTE: but sadly precious metal limited and severely lacking in products to sell) U.S. MINT sent me a PERSONAL "ONLY 10 more business days until they shut down UHR sales - NOTICE!

BUY before they run out still cheap - a HIGH RELIEF (not ULTRA!) 1907 MS69 sold for $600,000.00 plus privately last month.

I like my good friend who LIVES-TO-CRUISE (my spelling) appreciate the few we have. I even like them in the MINT BOXES.

The NEW ones L@@K even more PROOF LIKE than my first babies - that's what they are - MY BABIES - like in LORD OF THE RINGS - rubbing my hands together - :congrats::congrats::congrats:


"MY PRECIOUS-IOUS!"


Ya know HS my wise friend, this looks pretty good for a raw coin, price wise.

http://www.apmex.com/Product/1122/20...or_Better.aspx

I wonder what year they would send??? Looking at the PCGS link that you gave I think that Apmex might take a bath at those prices??? Grading them is not that expensive.

Yes, after taking my three Gems out of their plastic cocoons (and cradled with gloved fingers) I picked the two most worthy ones to be sent in for grading. I wonder if they will create a new category for my "Precious Ones". Maybe they'll call them "Mid-Strikes"?

I think my next "Major" gold purchase will have to be one of those highly regarded Pre-1933 St. Gaudens $20 gold coins. Stay tuned.

As a footnote, I too got this email from the U.S mint;
ONLY 10 more business days until they shut down UHR sales.

And now a few pics, kindly put your lazy boy in the recline position and grab your drink. Please excuse the clutter behind the coin.

livtocruz 12-18-2009 10:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 2083449)

What was the date on your receipt from the mint?

GoldenE 12-18-2009 11:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 2083449)

EE,
I would have that checked out...the 'a' in LaST is lowercase, while all the other letters in LaST STRIKE are uppercase....looks VEY suspicious.


:sarcasm:

For reals...your post made me :4_1_72:
I'm sick, it's really cold here, and i'm stuck inside on a friday night. thanks for good LOLs!

livtocruz 12-18-2009 11:39 PM

Re: 108,277 or there abouts for UHR made this year got JUST one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 2070784)
That's fantastic livtocruz! I've only got one that I bought back when it was $1239. I wish I could have grabbed another one at least.

Any thoughts on the 108K mintage? Is that low/high? I'm very curious about these coins, once they've stopped being minted.

BA, don't feel bad. My first two UHRs I bought at $1289, My third at $1489. So, buy another now since they have dropped the price by $50 back to $1489.

Why is it that the U.S. Mint operates in increments of $50???

I'm still on the fence about picking up a Proof 2009 Buffalo, don't know if it's gonna be worth the total of $1414.95???

Mintage for the UHR hasn't changed.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/...ArticleId=8855

livtocruz 12-18-2009 11:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenE (Post 2083786)
EE,
I would have that checked out...the 'a' in LaST is lowercase, while all the other letters in LaST STRIKE are uppercase....looks VEY suspicious.


:sarcasm:

For reals...your post made me :4_1_72:
I'm sick, it's really cold here, and i'm stuck inside on a friday night. thanks for good LOLs!

GE, good catch, I wonder if EE caught it.

EE should call PCGS and ask, "What the hey". Seriously, I'd want to know why the label is spelled "LaSTSTRIKE" and not "LAST STRIKE".

GoldenE 12-19-2009 12:22 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I couldn't hold out any longer:confused_ma: I've been waiting since earlier this year, but tonight was pull-the-trigger night!

Bought a BIN listed on e**y, in mint packaging, coa, etc. 1460 - 8%(bing instant cb) - 29.20(ebucks) - 1%(cc purchase?) = 1299 shipped. $187 over spot. I'll let ya all know if i get it alright :15_1_70v:

Hmmm...maybe i should have held out 9 more days for a Last Strike :-D



Oh...and since I just made this purchase, knowing my luck...you'll have me to thank if bing cb goes to 20% tomorrow :cry1: Though if it does there will be more purchases in my future!


:sleepy13:

livtocruz 12-19-2009 12:30 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
GE, untill we know what the date was on EE's receipt from the U.S. Mint we won't know what the cutoff date for the graders might be. I would guess that it's the last few months of 2009.

HistoryStudent 12-19-2009 12:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 2083449)

Dang YA I spit out my coffee on the new wireless board I'm trying on...

You are REALLY REALLY funny.

Really Really.

You should add to the label "worth Millions but will sell for $100 grand"... some fool would buy it!


Opps there goes the KEYS! 1ujjd7h3,kmc9havxz5gh2lx7451,su4521gbhne3xc7:36_1_ 28:

HistoryStudent 12-19-2009 12:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I see how you did it you I'm not a crook...


You took off the "FIR" and overplaced the "LA"

Very clever we shoud get together and copy the Federal Reserve System and help them print their phoney notes too...

:yes:

livtocruz 12-19-2009 12:54 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2084450)
I see how you did it you I'm not a crook...


You took off the "FIR" and overplaced the "LA"

Very clever we should get together and copy the Federal Reserve System and help them print their phony notes too...

:yes:

Ah yes, upon further examination, the State rests its case.

Note to self, don't post past midnight if I've had more than three glasses of Port.


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GoldenE 12-21-2009 07:49 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
WOWOWOW I just got the UHR in the mail today!:565:
It looks soo awesome!:clap2:

And I know the focus is the gold, but the packaging is pretty sweet...the strong wood box, the holder inside...the magnets to stand it up....very impressive.

The thickness of it...and the relief walking liberty...:23_28_100s:
...just wow.

I know gold's down since i bought, and i only got to use 8% bing instead of waiting a day and having bing be 10% :banghead: but it was definitely worth it. This very well maybe close to tieing my lunar dragon as a favorite (shh, dont tell the dragon)....if only that dragon didnt have a queen on the back haha.

Glad i jumped in and joined the UHR family! Now i see why people want to order multiples!!!

http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/DSC_0096.jpg

Apocalypto 12-22-2009 12:19 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I got the PCGS results back on my UHR and Buffalo proof. The UHR got a MS69 and the Buffalo got a PR70DC. Both are First Strikes.

newmisty 12-26-2009 09:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Nice, can't complain eh'?

I bought one each of the 09 Buff and the UHR a couple days ago.

Thanks for the push History Teacher. ;)

Knight Rider 12-29-2009 02:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Just bought one!!!!!

Ended up picking one up on eBay, still sealed in mint packaging and is eligible for first strike. Paid $1552 for it, minus 2% cashback from eBates, so basically $1520 for one that I hope I'll be able to get PCGS to rate a MS70 first strike, worst case scenario I'll end up with a MS69.

GoldenE 12-29-2009 06:14 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2099269)
Just bought one!!!!!

Ended up picking one up on eBay, still sealed in mint packaging and is eligible for first strike. Paid $1552 for it, minus 2% cashback from eBates, so basically $1520 for one that I hope I'll be able to get PCGS to rate a MS70 first strike, worst case scenario I'll end up with a MS69.

No bing too? I think i saw that listing, but was confused...i thought "first strikes" had to be submitted by a certain date (not just purchased)?

and congrats on the buy!

Knight Rider 12-29-2009 06:40 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenE (Post 2099554)
No bing too? I think i saw that listing, but was confused...i thought "first strikes" had to be submitted by a certain date (not just purchased)?

and congrats on the buy!

No bing since it wasn't a BIN and I'm in Canada. As long as the coin was shipped by March 11th (mine was shipped on March 11th), and is sent to PCGS in the mint sealed box, it will qualify for the designation.

Knight Rider 12-29-2009 09:18 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Bah, now I'm wondering if I should just pay the seller the eBay fee and cancel the transaction and order from the mint. The issue of insuring a shipment to Canada, then paying for shipping, grading, and return shipping again is making me think a mint box would be best. At the same time I don't want to be a prick and cancel the transaction...

Thoughts?

newmisty 12-29-2009 09:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Ordered an 90 Buff and UHR a few days ago.

Thanks History Student. ;)

GoldenE 12-29-2009 09:25 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2099577)
No bing since it wasn't a BIN and I'm in Canada. As long as the coin was shipped by March 11th (mine was shipped on March 11th), and is sent to PCGS in the mint sealed box, it will qualify for the designation.

Hah...didn't know the re: first strike. Thanks. Sorry to hear about your shipping to Canada situation...hope it works out. Its a great coin. Good luck!

1981 12-30-2009 07:23 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2099804)
Bah, now I'm wondering if I should just pay the seller the eBay fee and cancel the transaction and order from the mint. The issue of insuring a shipment to Canada, then paying for shipping, grading, and return shipping again is making me think a mint box would be best. At the same time I don't want to be a prick and cancel the transaction...

Thoughts?

I'm hoping to see a spike once the mint stops selling them Thursday. Maybe you could wait and sell it for more than you paid, then buy a regular one for less?

1981 12-30-2009 11:08 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Does anybody think we are going to see a substantial price hike on these when the mint stops selling them tomorrow? I have wondered why people have been buying them on ebay while they are cheaper at the mint. If they are paying 1500+ for them now when cheaper alternatives are available, what will happen when the secondary market is the only source?

Or, conversely, maybe everyone who wanted one and could afford it already has one. In that case there won't be anybody to sell to for a while.

goldwish 12-31-2009 03:11 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
who's going to get the *last* one!? :36_1_34:

GoldenE 12-31-2009 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goldwish (Post 2102602)
who's going to get the *last* one!? :36_1_34:

Well, they're done!!! Who here got the last one?

2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin (UH1)

Price: $1,489.00

Sold Out

Send it off for your "LastStrike" slab :111:

tekhen 12-31-2009 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenE (Post 2102690)
Well, they're done!!! Who here got the last one?

2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin (UH1)

Price: $1,489.00

Sold Out

Send it off for your "LastStrike" slab :111:

Sending mine to NGC... so it will be a 'Late Releases"

goldwish 12-31-2009 09:34 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenE (Post 2102690)
Well, they're done!!! Who here got the last one?

2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin (UH1)

Price: $1,489.00

Sold Out

Send it off for your "LastStrike" slab :111:


Got my fingers crossed! I was told the coin was in but the book sold out so the order may not go through! Was in process before the deadline but problems with website made the timestamp "late" still assigned a number though. Meanwhile I watched as one by one sales pages related to the UHR started getting pulled. I hope Mr Moy will honor my purchase.

livtocruz 01-01-2010 12:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goldwish (Post 2103156)
Got my fingers crossed! I was told the coin was in but the book sold out so the order may not go through! Was in process before the deadline but problems with website made the timestamp "late" still assigned a number though. Meanwhile I watched as one by one sales pages related to the UHR started getting pulled. I hope Mr Moy will honor my purchase.

Highly Doubtful

HistoryStudent 01-03-2010 08:27 PM

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New slab definitions coming soon:

Early Release released little later

or


First Strike stuck a little later

or

Medium Release

or


Second Strike


or

Latest Release


or


Latest Strike


or


LAST ONE MINTED


or


LAST ONE STRUCK


for GIM'er...


:111:

GoldenE 01-04-2010 12:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2107036)


First Strike stuck a little later

I like this the best....great!:4_1_72:

livtocruz 01-04-2010 11:01 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2107036)


I like this one better.

Latest Release A.K.A, The Director, Edmund Moy's cut :signs1:



Whatta ya think HS?

HistoryStudent 01-04-2010 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2107734)
Whatta ya think HS?

Yeah one of his private 2009 SILVER EAGLE PROOFS - or 20 sets of the 2009 PROOF GOLD EAGLE four coins sets.

That'll bring yeah a MILLION dollars each!

:111:

PS they would be UNIQUE!

goldwish 01-04-2010 06:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
alrighty naysayers - I'm IN - it's shipping this week :bulride:

re: the book it's just like last time, the coins will ship with the book to follow whenever those are done.

want to start a pool on the last release #? :bull-smile:

HistoryStudent 01-04-2010 08:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/ru...ell010410.html

:23_28_100s:

NEVER sell them!

HS

newmisty 01-04-2010 08:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Ten Thousand ounces huh.... :no_ma:

Guess I'll start amping up production a little bit.

HistoryStudent 01-05-2010 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2108700)
Ten Thousand ounces huh.... :no_ma:

Guess I'll start amping up production a little bit.

I'm trying but it's really tough....

:111::111:

Maybe I could rob the TUNGSTEN ones out of FORT TUNGSTEN KNOX when they ain't looking....

:111:

HistoryStudent 01-07-2010 05:19 PM

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US Mint Coin Demand Picks Up Slightly, 2009 Bullion Eagles Still Selling

Posted By Darrin Lee Unser On 1, January 7, 2010 @ 8:13 am In Coin or Numismatic News, First Spouse Gold Coins and Medals, Mint Sales Figures, United States Mint News and Information | No Comments

Sales of collector coins from the United States Mint appear to have stopped their three week slide, but not by much. According to their latest report, no new drastic drops are apparent. Unfortunately, also equally missing from that data are significant gains.

While not huge in numbers, the First Spouse Gold Coins saw almost across the board improvement, not that this was hard to do after the previous week’s disappointing sales.

Leading the pack was the Margaret Taylor First Spouse Proofs with a 110 unit increase. The only spouse to show a set back was the Letitia Tyler Uncirculated Coin, declining 11 from the week prior to 9 new sold. You may recall that each of these coins are struck from 1/2 ounce, 24-karat gold. That sets their price points of $729 for the proofs and $716 for the uncirculated coins, which is steep for most casual collectors.

2009-dated American Silver Eagle bullion coins are showing consistent demand with 131,000 sold so far in the month of January. Gold Bullion Eagles came in at 6,000. As a reminder, the 2010-dated versions will not be offered by the US Mint until January 19.

A few other striking items from the weekly sales report:

Interesting, even with low numbers, are the Presidential $1 Coin Covers. The three versions available (William Henry Harrison, John Tyler and James K. Polk) all saw their sales at least double over the previous week. Topping the list was the Polk Covers which sold 227 units compared to the prior 86.

The clad 2009 Mint Proof Set saw a dramatic decline over the previous week, losing over 2,300 to bring them in at 8,946 weekly gain. They have, however, reached a reputable 1,412,997 since their introduction on June 1, 2009. Conversely, the 18-coin Silver Proof Set jumped in sales and ended 7,021 higher for the week.

Uncirculated dollar sets enjoyed admirable gains, with this year’s 2009 Presidential Uncirculated Dollar Coin Set increasing 55.8% over last week to 954 units. The 2008 Annual Uncirculated Dollar Coin Set also increased with 1,221 sold in the week, or a 50.9% rise.

UHR $20 coins are no longer available. They went off sale on Dec. 31. However, the US Mint has not provided updated sales figures. As a result, the total is unchanged from the prior report.

Major coin sales numbers follow:

2009-Dated American Bullion Coin Sales
2009 Totals January* 2010 Totals
American Eagle Gold 1 oz 1,315,500 6,000 6,000
American Eagle Gold 1/2 oz** 110,000 0 0
American Eagle Gold 1/4 oz** 110,000 0 0
American Eagle Gold 1/10 oz** 270,000 0 0
American Buffalo Gold 1 oz** 200,000 0 0
American Eagle Silver 1 oz 28,766,500 131,000 131,000
*As of Jan. 6, 2010. **Sold Out.



US Mint Collector Coin Sales
(Data compare previous to current Mint sales reports)

American Platinum Proof Coin*
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
1 ounce 8,000 0 0 0.0%

US Mint information page: [1] 2009 American Eagle One Ounce Platinum Proof Coin
CoinNews article: [2] US Mint Launches Platinum Eagle Proof


American Buffalo Gold Proof Coin
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
1 ounce 42,075 42,630 555 1.32%

US Mint information page: [3] 2009 American Buffalo One Ounce Gold Proof Coin
CoinNews article: [4] Gold Buffalo Proof Coins

UHR Double Eagle $20 Gold Coin*
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
1 ounce 112,065 0 0 0.0%
US Mint coin information page: [5] 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin
Current eBay auctions: [6] 2009 UHR $20 Gold Coins

2009 US Mint Proof Set
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
1,404,051 1,412,997 8,946 0.64%
US Mint coin information page: [7] United States Mint 2009 Proof Set�
CoinNews article: [8] 2009 US Mint Proof Set

US Mint 2009 Silver Proof Set
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
634,754 641,775 7,021 1.11%
US Mint coin information page: [9] United States Mint 2009 Silver Proof Set�
CoinNews article: [10] 2009 US Mint Silver Proof Set

2009 US Mint Uncirculated Set
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
668,139 678,490 10,351 1.55%
US Mint coin information page: [11] United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set�
CoinNews article: [12] 2009 US Mint Set

2009 Presidential Dollar Proof Set
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
615,853 618,503 2,650 0.43%
US Mint coin information page: [13] US Mint Presidential $1 Coin Proof Set CoinNews article: [14] 2009 Presidential Dollar Coin Proof Set

2009 Presidential Dollar Uncirculated Set (P&D)
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
99,270 100,224 954 0.96%
US Mint coin information page: [15] Presidential $1 Coin Uncirculated Set
CoinNews article: [16] 2009 Uncirculated Presidential Dollar Coin Set

Louis Braille Silver Dollar*
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
Proof 135,235 0 0 0%
Uncirculated 48,863 0 0 0%
Braille Easy-Open Capsule 23,078 0 0 0%
Braille Education Set 10,698 0 0 0%

US Mint coin information page: [17] Commemorative Coins

Lincoln Silver Dollar Sales*
Old Sales New Sales Unit Change % Increase Notes
Proof 325,000 0 0 0.0%
Uncirculated 125,000 0 0 0.0%
Chronicles Set 50,000 0 0 0.0%

US Mint coin information page: [17] Commemorative Coins
Current eBay auctions: [18] Uncirculated [19] Proof



112,065 UHRs total MAYBE - for the year................

Knight Rider 01-14-2010 09:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Should have my UHR tomorrow or Monday. I can't believe how fast the item is making its way to Canada. It was shipped Priority mail International (6-10 days) on Tuesday from St. Louis and made it to Canada today, cleared customs in 5 hours (I marked it specifically as a 99.99% Fine gold coin and stated it was tax exempt, I thought that might slow it up) and is now in the Canadian postal system.

Bummer is I'll probably turn it around and sent it back off to PCGS for first strike designation and grading without being able to look at the coin :(

Apocalypto 01-14-2010 09:30 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
God Bless the HistoryStudent/Teacher :) hehe

HistoryStudent 01-15-2010 05:08 PM

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:signs14:

Yeah, down on :4_1_72: BENDED KNEE, please FATHER GOD get rid of the
paper sellers selling 1000% percent more than they MINE every year.

They are evil and their paper gold is evil and their TUNGSTEN is evil too!

Before I = :10_1_19:


GOD BLESS all those whom :36_1_32v: KEEP THE FAITH and profit while the US Bummer Dollar gets printed to HIGH HEAVEN'S height - :signs14: - Father GOD.

HistoryStudent 01-15-2010 05:13 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Frankly I think in about a YEAR those that hold one to perhaps 20 UHRs

will really be glad they did....

Never sell it's like the KENT FAMILY JEWELS in the 1970s Mini-series=

UHRs, SAINTs, Liberties, Indians... all keepers

selll when they go up 10 times!

Wow that means $33,000 for a MS65 SAINT common date! :36_1_25:

or heaven FORBID you sell... a UHR at $15,000! :bull-smile::signs14:

HistoryStudent 01-15-2010 09:39 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I'm requesting a NEW GRADE for my submissions to be in front of next year's NORDSTROM brained sheeple:

UHR TWO MILLION DOLLAR COIN MS70+
(selling for half price so BUY now!)
PROOFLIKE Just like the SMITHSONIAN TWO


:bull-smile::bull-smile::23_28_100s:


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Gordon Gekko 01-15-2010 10:05 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2129340)
I'm requesting a NEW GRADE for my submissions to be in front of next year's NORDSTROM brained sheeple:

UHR TWO MILLION DOLLAR COIN MS70+
(selling for half price so BUY now!)
PROOFLIKE Just like the SMITHSONIAN TWO


:bull-smile::bull-smile::23_28_100s:


Throw in a free season of American Idol on DVD and you will sell that puppy in the blink of an eye. :RockOn:

newmisty 01-16-2010 09:45 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
1 Attachment(s)
Got Mine Today...

Thank you HISTORY TEACHER for your words of wisdom and encouragement. :36_3_12:

Grasshopper's leap of faith is proving very satisfying. :bear_thumb:

voidus 01-17-2010 10:13 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
According to coin world, total body count is 115,178.

Gordon Gekko 01-17-2010 10:20 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2130820)
Got Mine Today...

Thank you HISTORY TEACHER for your words of wisdom and encouragement. :36_3_12:

Grasshopper's leap of faith is proving very satisfying. :bear_thumb:


Wow! Congratulations! What a very rewarding feeling have both the UHR and a Proof Buffalo arriving the same day. :ok:

Enjoy both to the fullest. I do not have a Proof Buffalo (yet), but man, sometimes I take my UHR out of the safe and just gaze at it; it's a euphoric feeling.

Apocalypto 01-17-2010 02:40 PM

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Such a beautiful coin. Paying homage to that coin was a great idea. The price increases begin.... now. See you next year at this time. $ + $$ = $$$

HistoryStudent 01-17-2010 04:20 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://www.coinfacts.com/double_eagl...nt_gaudens.htm

Beautiful

Knight Rider 01-19-2010 12:12 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Ok, stupid question. My UHR has a ship date of March 11th, 2009. Will that qualify for PCGS first strike?? At first I read that it has to ship before or on the cut off date, but I've seen a few pages say prior to the cutoff date.

Thanks!

Gordon Gekko 01-19-2010 12:17 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2134973)
Ok, stupid question. My UHR has a ship date of March 11th, 2009. Will that qualify for PCGS first strike?? At first I read that it has to ship before or on the cut off date, but I've seen a few pages say prior to the cutoff date.

Thanks!


IIRC, the ship date needs to be before or on March 11, 2009. Any date thereafter will not qualify as "First Strike".

Apocalypto 01-19-2010 02:22 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2134973)
Ok, stupid question. My UHR has a ship date of March 11th, 2009. Will that qualify for PCGS first strike?? At first I read that it has to ship before or on the cut off date, but I've seen a few pages say prior to the cutoff date.

Thanks!

Good job. You're in for the First Strike. Some will tell you that it's a BS moniker, and they might be right, but it's still kind of interesting to have that on the slab.

As far as that link, History, wow...

This line got to me. Can you imagine yourself placing a 1920-S Saint Gaudens coin into a furnace? How times change.

1920-S 558,000 0 Very rare - most appear to have been melted.

Kind of reminds me of the day my mother took 2 full garbage bags of me and my 2 brother's baseball, football and hockey cards out to the garbage while we were at school. If I recall, she said something like, "It was time. You guys just leave those things lying all over the living room floor and I'm sick of it! So out they went."

I don't even want to think about the dollar value those things would have today with all 3 of us collecting them like crazy. :s10:

HistoryStudent 01-19-2010 04:53 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
http://news.coinupdate.com/ultra-hig...al-sales-0122/

They have a NEW designation -

Last ONES made of the UHR Breed over 115,000

Just kidding...

But I'd love to have one if they had one. :4_1_72::36_3_16:

HistoryStudent 01-19-2010 04:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 2135206)
Good job. You're in for the First Strike. Some will tell you that it's a BS moniker, and they might be right, but it's still kind of interesting to have that on the slab.

As far as that link, History, wow...

This line got to me. Can you imagine yourself placing a 1920-S Saint Gaudens coin into a furnace? How times change.

1920-S 558,000 0 Very rare - most appear to have been melted.

Kind of reminds me of the day my mother took 2 full garbage bags of me and my 2 brother's baseball, football and hockey cards out to the garbage while we were at school. If I recall, she said something like, "It was time. You guys just leave those things lying all over the living room floor and I'm sick of it! So out they went."

I don't even want to think about the dollar value those things would have today with all 3 of us collecting them like crazy. :s10:



Probably about 200 OUNCES of GOLD - thinking in ounces instead of dollars, right?

:thumb.aspx:

In the trash............:4_1_72:

Same thing happened to me - I had over 1,000 cards - many from the original 1949 to 1959 TOPS ones... Kinda like LOSING your best DOG ten times! :puke:

newmisty 01-19-2010 05:01 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My Mom won't even let me have mine...

Because HER mom through her cards away while she was in college. A small fortune by todays standards I'm sure... What a pity!

Knight Rider 01-19-2010 05:07 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
My UHR arrived today from the eBay seller in the states. Got nabbed the tax on the item, but I can always file to get the money back since I know the coin is tax exempt.

Opened the book package and took a quick glance, nice book. I'm kind of being driven nuts now though, I want to get it graded, but I want to see the coin NOW!

Emailed PCGS asking what I'm supposed to do for customs when I send it back to the states. Hopefully they will get back to me soon so I can send the coin off.

livtocruz 01-19-2010 05:26 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2135502)
http://news.coinupdate.com/ultra-hig...al-sales-0122/

They have a NEW designation -

Last ONES made of the UHR Breed over 115,000

Just kidding...

But I'd love to have one if they had one. :4_1_72::36_3_16:

And to think, I have .000026% of those.
:ARMS1:

HistoryStudent 01-19-2010 05:43 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2135592)
And to think, I have .000026% of those.
:ARMS1:

More than 300 other MILLION of Americans in America that are watching their almighty BUCK flush down like TP.

:signs14:

Congratulations.

I booked Oceana Regatta flagship - round trip from Fort Lauderdale next year. 12 days Virgin Gorda and nine more. Was $6,000 each marked down to $1,750. The wife :4_1_72: CRIED when she found out she gets to go back to VIRGIN GORDA.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi :bull-smile:

Knight Rider 01-22-2010 03:29 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Not overly impressed with PCGS thus far. Signed up December 28th and still haven't received my welcome kit. Emailed them the other day to ask about it and got a prompt response saying it might take a few days due to the holidays, but I've been waiting over 3 weeks. I emailed back saying I still hadn't received it 2 days ago and asked what they can do so I can get my UHR submitted asap and have yet to get a response....

HistoryStudent 01-22-2010 05:13 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2141329)
Not overly impressed with PCGS thus far. Signed up December 28th and still haven't received my welcome kit. Emailed them the other day to ask about it and got a prompt response saying it might take a few days due to the holidays, but I've been waiting over 3 weeks. I emailed back saying I still hadn't received it 2 days ago and asked what they can do so I can get my UHR submitted asap and have yet to get a response....

Wait until you send them say, 11 Saint Gaudens (like DUMMY here did) and they LOSE them for 10 weeks. (3 MS65s 4 MS64s 3 MS63s and 1 MS62) A couple of bucks, right?

Kinda like running kittie cat claws over your 1990 Toyota what-so-ever's paint job for 70 days wondering when you'd (if ever?) see them again...

:111::111::111:
Kinda gives YA the CREEPS (from the creeps?). Those FINGER NAILS on the blackboard type thing. Like water dripping on your head ever night before going to sleep.

For the reward I got the Obummer Finger of Fate - but they did find them and they did grade them. PS that's the last group of coins I'd ever send them - I'm the KI$$ of DEATH :thumb.aspx: with PGCS and their service.

I am... sorry I am... but honest I am.

:504:

Knight Rider 01-22-2010 05:56 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2141513)
Wait until you send them say, 11 Saint Gaudens (like DUMMY here did) and they LOSE them for 10 weeks. (3 MS65s 4 MS64s 3 MS63s and 1 MS62) A couple of bucks, right?

Kinda like running kittie cat claws over your 1990 Toyota what-so-ever's paint job for 70 days wondering when you'd (if ever?) see them again...

:111::111::111:
Kinda gives YA the CREEPS (from the creeps?). Those FINGER NAILS on the blackboard type thing. Like water dripping on your head ever night before going to sleep.

For the reward I got the Obummer Finger of Fate - but they did find them and they did grade them. PS that's the last group of coins I'd ever send them - I'm the KI$$ of DEATH :thumb.aspx: with PGCS and their service.

I am... sorry I am... but honest I am.

:504:

Seriously, it took 10 weeks for them to grade your coins! Damn, that's a crazy long time.

HistoryStudent 01-22-2010 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider (Post 2141576)
Seriously, it took 10 weeks for them to grade your coins! Damn, that's a crazy long time.

They lost them for 9 weeks and then called and NEVER sent me the certificates for their screw-up and to reimberse for the MENTAL :cry1: worry every night.

I buy PCGS coins already slabbed - but never submit a coin to them - burn me once burn me twice burn me 11 times dealie, :ok:.

PCGS and NGC are a PUSH on Saints; both grade equally hard. As would be ANACS - which I have two of them 1909 D/D & a 1914 - I believe.

I suggest you slab everything you can - I do.

I do I do I do.

:coolbeer:

Knight Rider 01-22-2010 11:37 PM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Broke down and opened the box. Didn't feel like waiting another 5-6 weeks to get the coin graded. If I want another one, I'll buy one graded from eBay.

The mint did a very nice job on the coin and the presentation of it. The obverse was nice, but the reverse really impressed me. I'm glad I picked up at least one of the coin :)

EE_ 01-23-2010 01:22 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
I still love these coins. I think they are a modern heirloom coin if I have ever seen one!
How many did they make, 120,000?...for the entire global market?

tekhen 01-23-2010 03:20 AM

Re: 6 to 9 month wait on UHR eagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 2142179)
I still love these coins. I think they are a modern heirloom coin if I have ever seen one!
How many did they make, 120,000?...for the entire global market?

EE... welcome back!

Even though 120k is a large number, numismatically speaking...
(compared to the 08-Ws Buffs and AGEs)
* 2008-W Proof $50 Gold Buffalo (1 ounce): 25,496
* 2008-W Uncirculated $50 Gold Buffalo (1 ounce): 9,074
* 2008-W Proof $50 American Gold Eagle (1 ounce): 30,237
* 2008-W Uncirculated $50 American Gold Eagle (1 ounce): 11,908

IMO this one-year only pure Au coin (the true vision of St Gaudens) will make both collectors and investors happy.
It would be nice to see a run similar to the '08-W Proof Buffalo: from $1049.95to an ask price of $3100 almost tripled :RockOn:

Let's see what the aftermarket brings

If the UHR more than doubles in a years time I'll be :getdown:

HistoryStudent 01-23-2010 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 2142242)
EE... welcome back!

Even though 120k is a large number, numismatically speaking...
(compared to the 08-Ws Buffs and AGEs)
* 2008-W Proof $50 Gold Buffalo (1 ounce): 25,496
* 2008-W Uncirculated $50 Gold Buffalo (1 ounce): 9,074
* 2008-W Proof $50 American Gold Eagle (1 ounce): 30,237
* 2008-W Uncirculated $50 American Gold Eagle (1 ounce): 11,908

IMO this one-year only pure Au coin (the true vision of St Gaudens) will make both collectors and investors happy.
It would be nice to see a run similar to the '08-W Proof Buffalo: from $1049.95to an ask price of $3100 almost tripled :RockOn:

Let's see what the aftermarket brings

If the UHR more than doubles in a years time I'll be :getdown:

You are so right on the ONE year wonder coins.

Wondering why they even bothered to try to show they wanted to what's right and their job and satisfy collector demand in a very half-A$$ way.

The coins will be a HOLE a hard to obtain ISSUE because of price availability etcetera etcetera.

I also wonder the future will bring - they don't like the extra (steps) making proofs and uncirculated coins for some reason.

When you figure the "REASON" out you might put yourself in position to really
profit on the dollar side of the answer, you will.

PS I understand that the entire US banks now hold 1 to 2 trillion extra dollars in RESERVES. By extra that means more than THEY NORMALLY "used to hold" prior to the
"crisis," shall we say. From 2 BILLION then, now to 1,000 to 2,000 BILLIONS.

Gee, I also wonder what's gonna happen to the NEW reserves? What, where, when, and why will they be released?

That's simple "release" of US $s alone will EASILY double your UHR - IMVHO.

But it's gonna play HELL on consumer things like food, utilities, gasoline, insurance, taxes, and things you need to live and have to buy - stock up NOW!

BoatingAccident 01-23-2010 12:43 PM

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Well, I've got to thank GIM, HistoryStudent, Gordon Gekko, countless others (too many to list) who have posted in this thread that got me to purchase one of these coins.

The UHR is true beauty. I've got pretty much all bullion, but the UHR is the one coin that I just absolutely admire. Thanks, folks, for the inspiration that lead to the most important thing for me...action. To take action and purchase this coin.

I will never regret this decision, and will never sell this coin.

newmisty 01-23-2010 01:18 PM

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Super Post!

I totally agree... This one aint going nowhere!

Sharing it with you guys/girls on the board makes it even more appealing. It's our own "secret pleasure" that few others even comprehend.

Poor saps!

HistoryStudent 01-23-2010 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 2142591)
Well, I've got to thank GIM, HistoryStudent, Gordon Gekko, countless others (too many to list) who have posted in this thread that got me to purchase one of these coins.

The UHR is true beauty. I've got pretty much all bullion, but the UHR is the one coin that I just absolutely admire. Thanks, folks, for the inspiration that lead to the most important thing for me...action. To take action and purchase this coin.

I will never regret this decision, and will never sell this coin.

It is interesting how human nature does get bored with plain old Gold Eagles, Gold Maples, Gold Pesos, Gold Krugs, and basically gold bullion coins in particular.

That said, ONCE you start into NUMISMATICS (after you have enough bullion coins) you will be fascinated by the history. Make sure they are sooner or later encapsulated (unless they are in MINT packaging because for most that's enough, right?) if they are raw.

I mention this for many reasons. Sooner or later someone is going to trade them for the currency in VOGUE (the one in current fashion which is rapidly changing right now, right?) and the authentication will assist in the exchange/trade/Perhaps life saving opportunity (like in Vietnam, Germany, Russia, all the iron curtain counties, middle east, etcetera over JUST the last 100 years. Which is only 1/60 th of recorded history in which there were say 400 years of peace in 6,000 - so get a clue, right?)

The mint packaging is authentication enough, however.

Start into NUMISMATICS so much is free on the web; and the books are cheap.

I HIGHLY recommend HISTORIC GOLD COINS OF THE WORLD - by HOBSON :favorites8: Sit down and read it - it's like a easy show & tell in the 10th grade.

It's an old book from the 70s with prices in dollars and pounds - so those of us over 60 can see when we missed the BOAT! {Boy back then - I shoulda wouda coulda musta - but now WILL(A)!}

It will give you an :emotions16: appreciation for GOLD coins that you will never forget...

Best wishes,

HS

Oh, yes, the Saint Gauden's is in their as the MOST BEAUTIFUL coin ever made in the world.

Master_Ho 01-23-2010 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2142729)
It is interesting how human nature does get bored with plain old Gold Eagles, Gold Maples, Gold Pesos, Gold Krugs, and basically gold bullion coins in particular.

That said, ONCE you start into NUMISMATICS (after you have enough bullion coins) you will be fascinated by the history. Make sure they are sooner or later encapsulated (unless they are in MINT packaging because for most that's enough, right?) if they are raw.

How many times have you and I said this about numismatics here at GIM???

Yes, after you have one of each bullion gold coin, you want to branch out.

And how many times have we mentioned great books and authors to study? For total numismatic-newbies, I like "Coin Collecting for Dummies" (Ron Guth) followed by "The Expert's Guide To Collecting & Investing In Rare Coins (Q. David Bowers), then Bower's individual books for the coins one decides to collect!

And this coin - the one-year wonder.......so glad I bought a few of them!!!!

Apocalypto 01-23-2010 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 2142902)
How many times have you and I said this about numismatics here at GIM???

Good stuff. I happen to be a huge fan of Morgan Silver dollars. It seems many people think they're boring or something, but nothing could be further from the truth, especially when it comes to their historical significance. The true American dollar is the Morgan dollar. Why do I say that? Two reasons mainly. 1) It was an important marker of the growth of the American west. 2) During its time,the value of the silver content was approximately 20% less than the face value. In other words, it was an honest form of currency.

Those days are gone. But the coins remain. Everyone who admires gold and silver ought to have at least one decent Morgan in his stash.

Master_Ho 01-23-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 2142935)
Good stuff. I happen to be a huge fan of Morgan Silver dollars. It seems many people think they're boring or something, but nothing could be further from the truth, especially when it comes to their historical significance. The true American dollar is the Morgan dollar. Why do I say that? Two reasons mainly. 1) It was an important marker of the growth of the American west. 2) During its time,the value of the silver content was approximately 20% less than the face value. In other words, it was an honest form of currency.

Those days are gone. But the coins remain. Everyone who admires gold and silver ought to have at least one decent Morgan in his stash.

Me too - I love them - especially the toned ones......and I love taking a stack of them (specially bought to do this) into class and letting them hold them.

All the talk in the world is find - but put one of those puppies into someone's hand and, nine times out of ten, they want to know all about them........they are truly "real money"!

If you haven't - I suggest you pick up Bower's book on Morgan Silver dollars! I just got a revised edition!!!

Cheers!


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newmisty 01-23-2010 07:53 PM

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Wow. That toning is the perfect color!
Recon that one was sitting face down in a burlap sack?


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Master_Ho 01-23-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2143027)
Wow. That toning is the perfect color!
Recon that one was sitting face down in a burlap sack?


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These guys say they are!

Just a couple I grabbed from the collection to show!

I always think of toned Morgans as metal canvas that nature can paint an infinite number of ways!

Cheers!

Apocalypto 01-23-2010 08:12 PM

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Just awesome! Thanks for sharing.

newmisty 01-23-2010 08:28 PM

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ABSOLUTLY MASTER HO! I agree 100% about the canvas.

That last one is remarkable!

Master_Ho 01-23-2010 08:30 PM

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Just awesome! Thanks for sharing.

I love to share - I figure I am merely the temporary takecarer for the time - and love to show and encourage others who show an interest......otherwise, its like having a private gallery of paintings and never sharing them with others.

.........and the other reason I love the toned Morgans......I can look at Morgans (toned or not) all day - but especialy with the rainbow ones - no two are alike!

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Cheers!

Ag_man 01-23-2010 08:50 PM

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One of the smartest things I did in 2009 was buying a UHR. The dumbest thing I did in 2009 was not buying 2 more.

BoatingAccident 01-23-2010 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 2142935)
Good stuff. I happen to be a huge fan of Morgan Silver dollars. It seems many people think they're boring or something, but nothing could be further from the truth, especially when it comes to their historical significance. The true American dollar is the Morgan dollar. Why do I say that? Two reasons mainly. 1) It was an important marker of the growth of the American west. 2) During its time,the value of the silver content was approximately 20% less than the face value. In other words, it was an honest form of currency.

Those days are gone. But the coins remain. Everyone who admires gold and silver ought to have at least one decent Morgan in his stash.

Eye opening post, and my next silver purchase will be a Morgan Silver dollar or more.

This post really is thought provoking for me personally, and I'll share why that is.

Several years ago, before I starting buying gold and silver, I first purchased my sailboat and started refitting her for sea. I had always known since a child of silver's value as money, but it never really sank in...

Anyway, I had the boat in the yard, the mast removed for refitting. Before restepping the mast on the boat, I told my father I need to aquire a silver dollar. Old sailor's lore, every time you remove a mast, you must place a silver dollar at the base of the mast when you re-step it to the boat.

I told my father I was going to purchase a silver dollar for this purpose, and he told me not to, and that he had a silver dollar that his father had given him years ago. It was a morgan (I've learned since) dated from 1886. He gave the coin to me, I placed it underneath the mast as the crane lower it back onto the boat..and now it's pretty much permanently attached to the boat. I reinforced the mast so strong it would be a bear to remove again.

I'm very curious about that coin now.

At least when I go to sea, I'll not only have the God's favour now, but also taking some american history with me.

(I'd really like to see that coin now)...but can not. But I can look at the mast and really wonder about it.

HistoryStudent 01-23-2010 09:56 PM

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Ten years ago I walk into the gold & silver store and the fellow, a friend for some 10 years prior says:

Have you ever thought about slabbed coins?"

"Huh?"

"Here's a box of 20 -all 1881-S MS64s PCGS - do you like 'em?"

"Yes, but how much for the whole thing; the darn thing is 120 years old?"

"Oh say, $600, okay?"

"Sure anymore"

"Well I've got another full box and a box of peace dollars MS64s."

"Same price?"

"Nope the peace dollars 1923 are $400, okay?"

"Sure that's $1,600 so far."

"Oh I've got a box of 20 mixed years Morgans all MS64, and a MS65 for $80 and a MS66 for $120 both 1880 S Morgans."

"Sold.................!"

That was ten years ago and my first start in silver dollars.

I've just got them out - some have tone - I just wish I'd bought many more
way back when..........But, then he brought OUT the GOLD ONES!:ok:

lumpOgold 01-23-2010 10:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2143179)
Ten years ago I walk into the gold & silver store and the fellow, a friend for some 10 years prior says:

Have you ever thought about slabbed coins?"

"Huh?"

"Here's a box of 20 -all 1881-S MS64s PCGS - do you like 'em?"

"Yes, but how much for the whole thing; the darn thing is 120 years old?"

"Oh say, $600, okay?"

"Sure anymore"

"Well I've got another full box and a box of peace dollars MS64s."

"Same price?"

"Nope the peace dollars 1923 are $400, okay?"

"Sure that's $1,600 so far."

"Oh I've got a box of 20 mixed years Morgans all MS64, and a MS65 for $80 and a MS66 for $120 both 1880 S Morgans."

"Sold.................!"

That was ten years ago and my first start in silver dollars.

I've just got them out - some have tone - I just wish I'd bought many more
way back when..........But, then he brought OUT the GOLD ONES!:ok:

And do you remember the days when you could get $20 double eagles for less than $500? I wish I'd bought all I could carry! But, no I bought a car and a flat screen TV!

Am I a moron? No!
back then we never imagined that gold would hit $1200! Now when people talk about $5000 for gold don't doubt them! :s1:

Master_Ho 01-23-2010 10:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 2143202)
And do you remember the days when you could get $20 double eagles for less than $500? I wish I'd bought all I could carry! But, no I bought a car and a flat screen TV!

Am I a moron? No!
back then we never imagined that gold would hit $1200! Now when people talk about $5000 for gold don't doubt them! :s1:


Naw - we weren't morons - we just didn't know THEN what we know NOW!!!

And at least we are wise enough NOW to buy what we can, before the next big price jump - which IS coming!!!

But - to those reading this thread - its not enough to buy MS64s or 65's.........it really helps to know which coins are more likely to be sought after and why - hence the books - and my suggestion of Q. David Bower's books for each type of coin you collect..........put out by the official Red Book people, they all start off - "A Guide Book Of......" and then the type, say, Morgan Slver Dollars.........

Cheers!

HistoryStudent 01-24-2010 04:16 PM

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In 1999 the TOTAL M3 money supply was ONLY 6,000 BILLIONS now it is
17,000 BILLIONS - that we KNOW about.

WE also know that the banks usually keep only 2 BILLIONS total in USA for reserves. Now the little bank creeps have 1,000 to 2,000 BILLIONS in reserves.

So...

Here the analogy. :ok:

Think of filling your bathtub with water. That like the normal backup you'd need for water reserves.

Then FILL UP your ENTIRE house and atic with water.
This is what the banks did - they filled their vaults.

Think about going to the front door and then OPENING it. Stand there and see what happens - :23_28_100s:

That's what's going to happen to all prices when they OPEN their VAULTS.

Get it?

First thing you do is stock up on food you use, then supplies, LOTS of TP :signs14::fan:; and be ready.

Oh yes I think that gold and silver MIGHT rise a tad - say, ten times more, right?

:thumb.aspx:

Master_Ho 01-24-2010 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2144196)
In 1999 the TOTAL M3 money supply was ONLY 6,000 BILLIONS now it is
17,000 BILLIONS - that we KNOW about.

WE also know that the banks usually keep only 2 BILLIONS total in USA for reserves. Now the little bank creeps have 1,000 to 2,000 BILLIONS in reserves.

So...

Here the analogy. :ok:

Think of filling your bathtub with water. That like the normal backup you'd need for water reserves.

Then FILL UP your ENTIRE house and atic with water.
This is what the banks did - they filled their vaults.

Think about going to the front door and then OPENING it. Stand there and see what happens - :23_28_100s:

That's what's going to happen to all prices when they OPEN their VAULTS.

Get it?

First thing you do is stock up on food you use, then supplies, LOTS of TP :signs14::fan:; and be ready.

Oh yes I think that gold and silver MIGHT rise a tad - say, ten times more, right?

:thumb.aspx:


Which would bring gold to roughly $10,000 and silver to (roughly) $200.........as we have said - all do-able!!! Not hard to imagine!

I bet the Germans said that in 1918-23 as gold was going from about 179 marks per ounce to over 47 TRILLION an ounce....."Not hard to imagine!"....and I fear the dollar is about to make the same sad trip!!

That won't make those of us in PMs any richer - it will just help us from getting any poorer as the masses see their wealth go up like lit paper!

Wealth is relative - when those around you loose everything - holding on to what you have makes one that much richer by comparison.

But, a closing thought, to me none of this is really about wealth - its about preservation........of wealth, of health and life!

Cheers!

:emotions16:

HistoryStudent 01-24-2010 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 2144363)
Which would bring gold to roughly $10,000 and silver to (roughly) $200.........as we have said - all do-able!!! Not hard to imagine!

I bet the Germans said that in 1918-23 as gold was going from about 179 marks per ounce to over 47 TRILLION an ounce....."Not hard to imagine!"....and I fear the dollar is about to make the same sad trip!!

That won't make those of us in PMs any richer - it will just help us from getting any poorer as the masses see their wealth go up like lit paper!

Wealth is relative - when those around you loose everything - holding on to what you have makes one that much richer by comparison.

But, a closing thought, to me none of this is really about wealth - its about preservation........of wealth, of health and life!

Cheers!

:emotions16:

Wow. l@@K who's in charge for a change.

WE are in DEEP DO DO...

HistoryStudent 01-26-2010 02:37 PM

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GOT all you WANT? :adore::adore::adore::adore:

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

Just asking, :emotions16::emotions16:

Apocalypto 01-26-2010 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2147617)
GOT all you WANT? :adore::adore::adore::adore:

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/home.php?cat=194

Just asking, :emotions16::emotions16:

There's an MS-70 on that page for $1,835.00 :s1:

HistoryStudent 01-26-2010 03:39 PM

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Like a CHA-CHING in the cash register - next year - twice that, who knows, right? :36_3_12:

voidus 02-04-2010 12:43 AM

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check this mint error UHR out. Asking $25,000 or best offer.
wow

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-UHR-GOLD...item23051712eb

Master_Ho 02-04-2010 12:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voidus (Post 2161678)
check this mint error UHR out. Asking $25,000 or best offer.
wow

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-UHR-GOLD...item23051712eb


For that much money, I figured, hell, one breast had to be exposed! *lol*

I don't know - NGC amy call it an error - technically it is, I guess - but much ado about nothing - I have other American eagles with the same "errors" on them and no one gives a hoot!

Let's see how the biddng goes!!!

:wink:

newmisty 02-04-2010 01:11 AM

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Kinda had to see in the pics...looks like a hairline marking huh?

As Master Ho said, should be interesting to see what happens.

lumpOgold 02-04-2010 01:15 AM

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Yeah, it looks "struck through" but it is not a die clash that would be a real error. It simply looks like the eagle was struck through a small amount of oil. No big deal and it isn't ms70 no matter what the seller says.
I have a pile of Andrew Jackson dollar coins with die chips that look like tears. And each one is worth $1.00 EACH! wow!

I'd pay $1425 for this coins today.

newmisty 02-04-2010 01:22 AM

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yeah, I like the, "it could easily grade ms70".

ok, then why isn't it??

Workaholic 02-04-2010 01:27 AM

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.

I'm going to offer him melt value.

In my opinion it's just flawed.


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Master_Ho 02-04-2010 01:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpOgold (Post 2161697)
Yeah, it looks "struck through" but it is not a die clash that would be a real error.

My thoughts too!!

bt you know - they could, and probably WILL, find some sucker!!

Master_Ho 02-04-2010 01:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Workaholic (Post 2161711)
.

I'm going to offer him melt value.

In my opinion it's just flawed.

.

You'd be wasting your time - he's got a slab that says different - and its from a major grader (one I continue to lose respect for)........

He doesn't care about your (or my) opinion...........

A sucker is probably circling that coin now!!!!

Apocalypto 02-04-2010 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 2161719)
A sucker is probably circling that coin now!!!!

The strange thing is, today we call the buyer a sucker when he ends up paying $20k for that coin, yet 10 years from now he turns around and sells it for $75k. Maybe the joke's on us.

Master_Ho 02-04-2010 01:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 2161719)
You'd be wasting your time - he's got a slab that says different - and its from a major grader (one I continue to lose respect for)........

He doesn't care about your (or my) opinion...........

A sucker is probably circling that coin now!!!!

VERY good point, and I had thought of it.........I guess it depends how many of those labels there are and if collectors take them seriously........

On the other hand - I think this as well (always a Tao thing)........if I HAD that sort of money to spend I doubt I would buy it anyways.........but right now, in this present financial enviroment, how many ounce of gold could I buy for the same price, and which is the better value for the money??





If you aren't sure - I will be doing a weekend workshop soon you might want to attend!!

:biggrin:

HistoryStudent 02-04-2010 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voidus (Post 2161678)
check this mint error UHR out. Asking $25,000 or best offer.
wow

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-20-UHR-GOLD...item23051712eb

I love to get ERROR slabbed coins. They add a bit of PREMIUM when you MIGHT sell them down the road. That said I never paid over 10% of the low retail (which I count as about 20% off PCGS prices) BALLPARK.

How many ERRORS are there out there and in there NUMISMATIC LAND. The Disneyland for the OLD FOLKS, right?

:signs14::36_3_16:

cpthnsolo 02-04-2010 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2162213)
I love to get ERROR slabbed coins.

My first gold eagle was one of these. I paid about around a $15 premium for it compared to what a non-error 1/4oz eagle was selling for at the time. I'm certainly not going to spend a large premium for error bullion but a tiny premium is more than worth it IMO.

newmisty 02-04-2010 04:32 PM

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Only in todays world does an error equal something good.

Go figure.

HistoryStudent 02-04-2010 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2162746)
Only in todays world does an error equal something good.

Go figure.

The SAD SAD SAD reason is NUMBERS. Because they make so few errors the POPULATION in slabbed coins is really low.

IE my 1924 saint struck through MS63 - okay.

The total census for NGC 1924 Saints was over 270,000 total.

The errors?

Date/Info: 1924 REV STRUCK THRU
Denomination: $20
Grade: MINT ERROR MS 63

Additional Information
NumisMedia Value: Price not provided by NumisMedia*

Population: Population data not available


Not available - but rather few I'd guess.

:36_3_16:

cpthnsolo 02-04-2010 05:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2162746)
Only in todays world does an error equal something good.
Go figure.

From what I've read Numi's have been keeping error coins for decades. I wouldn't know but perhaps someone else can comment.


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newmisty 02-04-2010 10:12 PM

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What I meant was, I find it strange how we pick and choose what is valuable based on rarity.

If I had a hundred R code Ford Torino's & 90 were in superior shape and 9 were in good shape while only one had rust and homade modifications....the most rare of the group is going to be worth the least.

My anology is not quite fitting and I fully understand the difference and logic behind errors. It was just a passing observation.

Just strikes me as funny.

HistoryStudent 02-05-2010 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1522545)
No private business would survive with the policies that the US Mint governs by.

Yep, the GOVERNMENT DOESN"T WORK...

in so many ways...

:36_1_34::5_1_120::23_28_100s:

Master_Ho 02-06-2010 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2164015)
Yep, the GOVERNMENT DOESN"T WORK...

in so many ways...

:36_1_34::5_1_120::23_28_100s:


An old Mafia joke:

Mafia - organized crime

Government - disorganized crime

HistoryStudent 02-06-2010 03:08 PM

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To KINDA get back on somewhat the POINT of the original UHR thread wait.

Well sitting here in the coldest winter of my 60 years thinking about AL (E-)Gore flying around in his free 767 off his ONE-BILLION dollars easily made from GLOBAL WARMING kick-backs from the scientific community and liberal Democratic (they gotta go!) congress (so he's NOT dumb just a smart crook to get even for losing his CHADS!) ; I searched my 2010 RED BOOK (Super large PRINT example) for the UHR.

The reason for this was that I wondered why N.G.C. has not added them to the COIN REGISTRY as to date. I do NOT have PCGS access - so maybe you out there in COINLAND could take a quick l@@k and see if PCGS is ahead of N.G.C. on this, okay?

Well, I found that they were included with the BULLION coins - you know the modern EAGLES & BUFFALOS. I did remember seeing the original coin (2 of 20 - 18 were melted - they made still exist at the SMITHSONIAN) in my huge GOLD COIN encyclopedia - 10 pound - book.

Well, search your own RED BOOKS for the answer.

It was made to show we could DO now today what they could not do (produce) in MASS in 1907 - period. Also it is a PATTERN (copy) coin. Unique as it is it is not a US double eagle currency coin.

So sooner or later they will include in the REGISTRYS I'd bet under the MODERN BULLION coin slot.

Maybe if Al E-GORE and cronnies could spend more time on truth than fiction we could get our honest money our US Constitution decreed by LAW Article 10 - before they screwed it up! :signs14::cry1:

newmisty 02-06-2010 04:54 PM

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After reading your large print from a post yesterday I joked about you loosing your glasses... Guess you really do need the LARGE PRINT addition! :504::23_1_22:

Only thing I can offer is that the 2010 RB says-

"A modern version of the famous US 1907"

IMO "modern version" is still not a replica or a copy by definition.

"In god we trust" and the addition of 4 extra stars would be enough to verify that IMO.

Interesting to note the "speculated value" for the UHR in the Red Book is at $1700

HistoryStudent 02-06-2010 05:09 PM

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Good stuff.

I do want to remind you that at the London bullion market in
December at $1,220 settlement
January at $1,120 settlement

Most ALL contracts were settled in paper at a 25% premium/bribe:
December at $1,525.00 ounce
January at at $1,400.00 an ounce

The reason given was bullion shortage to make up for the demand for the ORIENT Express - read a MAJOR problem with prior delivery of authentic gold bullion.

So the paper price if you play with the big BOYZ is already $1400 to $1500 north on average.

Kinda fits in with the prices we paid for the UHR plus a premium/bribe for the BOXES, right? Or the LOUSY SPOUSIES, right? Ain't to stinkin' much to choose from after that as the mint can't find the bullion that London can;t find either, can it? :sarc: :504:

Anyway I'm now I'm now seeinga terrific difference in the paper and physical prices. So TPTB have to DEAL from the BOTTOM of the DECK (like the true riverboat gamblems they are fighting true dgood, honest, ethical, moral GOLD and SILVER, anyway, right?


Stay tuned - gold looks like a slam dunk having hit a Paper price of $1525 last year - under the table- so to speak - BUT good as GOLD...


From my keyboard to your ears....:36_1_37:

newmisty 02-06-2010 05:21 PM

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On a slightly side note, WTH is with the prices in the 2010 RB for the PLatinum?

$10 (mintage 2,583) 2005W PF $200????????

voidus 02-13-2010 01:46 PM

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http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/201...ble-eagle.html

Good read on the current price of the UHR.

Maybe best to have them graded. PCGS or NGC which one?

How much is the cost to have them graded?

Thanks in advance.

newmisty 02-13-2010 01:52 PM

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Great read thanks...makes me want several hundred more!

I feel so lowly with my one coin.

Holy chit! - NGC MS 70 PL $4,268.00

Quote:

Thursday, February 11, 2010
2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Prices
Posted by: Michael | Posted in: Ultra High Relief

More more than one month has passed since sales of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin concluded at the US Mint. I thought it would be an interesting exercise to examine the recent sales prices for the coins on the secondary market.

In recent weeks, the premiums for many collectible gold coins have experienced a sharp decline. This has come amidst an extended decline in the price of gold, which brought the price from its high of $1,212.50 reached on December 2, 2009 to the recent low of $1,058.00 per ounce reached on February 5, 2010.

I have been generally aware of the price levels of the UHR Double Eagles, but it was very interesting to do a more comprehensive evaluation. I compiled all of the data for completed eBay auctions from January 28 to February 10. I recorded the prices for any listings resulting in a sale and the basic aspects of the coin (raw, PCGS, or NGC grade). I came up with a total of 102 prices, which I think provided a reasonable amount of data for examining trends and averages. I did not take into account any factors such as the duration of the auction, time of day, whether it was an auction or Buy It Now, feedback of the sellers, etc.

First, I tried to examine the data to see if prices were generally rising or falling, but I also wanted to take into account the price of gold. The trend of the UHR price levels could be a bit difficult to pin down, because of the different price levels for various grades and raw coins. To narrow the focus, I picked the biggest group, raw coins, and looked at the average price for the first five days of data when the average price of gold was $1,080.59 and the last five days of data when the average price of gold was $1,062.02.

The average price for the Ultra High Relief Double Eagle in original US Mint packaging for the first five days was $1,520.50. The average price for a similar coin during the last five days examined was $1,549.06. As the price of gold was falling, the prices paid for the UHR Double Eagle held up and even showed gains. I think this is a good indication of the long term staying power and continued premiums for the coin.

One of the most surprising things I saw when running through the data were the prices being paid for coins which have been graded NGC MS 70 PL. NGC uses the "PL" designation for coins which exhibit proof like surfaces.

During the period, eight coins graded NGC MS 70 PL were sold. Some prices from early in the period were $4,100 and $4,150. The most recent three coins sold for around $4,500 each. NGC's online population report indicates that 589 coins have been graded MS 70 PL compared to 4,611 coins graded MS 70 without the designation.

As a final exercise, I calculated the average prices realized for 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles across various options. The results of these calculations are below.


Original Packaging $1,543.48
PCGS MS69 $1,615.25
PCGS MS70 $2,031.25
PCGS MS70 FS $2,229.60
NGC MS 69 $1,547.00
NGC MS 69 PL $2,412.80
NGC MS 70 $1,836.45
NGC MS 70 PL $4,268.00

I thought it was interesting that the average price paid for a UHR Double Eagle in the original box was $1,543.48. This is just a little bit above the highest price that the US Mint had charged for the coin. The price of $1,539 was briefly in effect when the average price of gold had risen to a range between $1,150 and $1,099.99. The lowest price the US Mint charged for the coin was $1,089, in effect when sales first began on January 19, 2009.

HistoryStudent 02-13-2010 05:38 PM

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Attachment 87214

shouldas wouldas couldas bought the MS70 *PROOF LIKE*

$4,300!

:cry1:

Still the above puppy is a EARLY RELEASE 1 of 18 total - still really really crying... sob sob sob...

HistoryStudent 02-13-2010 05:43 PM

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Attachment 87215

Here's a couple to draw too.

Shouldas wouldas couldas bought a LOT more...

HS :4_1_72:

newmisty 02-13-2010 05:57 PM

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:36_1_32v: :clap2:

Very nice.

Are the PL's struck from a different die than the rest?

I don't quite understand the specifics behind the PL grade. A search of mine netted conflicting results.

newmisty 02-13-2010 06:02 PM

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Wow, History Student, you have a grand total of $60 worth of UHR Gold Bullion posted above.

I hope you spend them wisely :sarcasm:

HistoryStudent 02-13-2010 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2178273)
:36_1_32v: :clap2:

Very nice.

Are the PL's struck from a different die than the rest?

I don't quite understand the specifics behind the PL grade. A search of mine netted conflicting results.

Proof Likes REALLY REALLY SHINE like they were from polished dies/dyes

I have a few raw ones that might qualify almost "but no banana!"

http://rlv.zcache.com/monkey_and_ban...78qiae_400.jpg

I bought the MS69 ER*PL* from modern coin mart. com on a deal.

The MS70 ER*PL* were around $2700 back then.

Wouldas couldas shouldas...

Oh, well live and learn...

Like so many who shouldas wouldas couldas backed up their bank accounts recently if those ten to 20 trillion us Dollar reasons start to hit as I suspect they will...

Stagnation Depression "the mother of all depressions.." :Surrender::signs14:

voidus 02-14-2010 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2178287)
Proof Likes REALLY REALLY SHINE like they were from polished dies/dyes

I have a few raw ones that might qualify almost "but no banana!"

http://rlv.zcache.com/monkey_and_ban...78qiae_400.jpg

I bought the MS69 ER*PL* from modern coin mart. com on a deal.

The MS70 ER*PL* were around $2700 back then.

Wouldas couldas shouldas...

Oh, well live and learn...

Like so many who shouldas wouldas couldas backed up their bank accounts recently if those ten to 20 trillion us Dollar reasons start to hit as I suspect they will...

Stagnation Depression "the mother of all depressions.." :Surrender::signs14:

I'm thinking of holding the raw stuff. You can always get them graded. Might be a scandal on the grading companies soon. http://goldismoney.info/forums/image...s/sleepy13.gif

HistoryStudent 02-15-2010 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voidus (Post 2180156)
I'm thinking of holding the raw stuff. You can always get them graded. Might be a scandal on the grading companies soon. http://goldismoney.info/forums/image...s/sleepy13.gif

Scandals can be many from the stocks, bonds, efts, munis, commodities, futures, options, and even in PMs as the Chinese recently claimed and
caused every GOLD bar in the world to be examined.

So...

Everyone has to figure out the best for what they have: and, sadly and position themselves on what they feel is best.

:signs14:

tekhen 02-23-2010 06:54 AM

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back to the original title of the thread...
was the '6 to 9 month' wait worth it?

Mine ended up being a three month wait and although I was :mad_m: at the mint... overall, I am very pleased with the purchase

RossL 02-23-2010 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2178273)
:36_1_32v: :clap2:

Very nice.

Are the PL's struck from a different die than the rest?

I don't quite understand the specifics behind the PL grade. A search of mine netted conflicting results.

I don't think anyone directly answered your question.

PL's are not struck from a different die.

They were probably the first coin struck from a new pair of dies. Or maybe the second.

The mint went through many sets of dies. So, the PL's are the true first strikes. But, there is no way of knowing this when looking at a coin other than judging the condition of the surface. A coin marked as "First Strike" by PCGS could have been the last strike from a particular set of dies.

HistoryStudent 02-23-2010 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 2194630)
I don't think anyone directly answered your question.

PL's are not struck from a different die.

They were probably the first coin struck from a new pair of dies. Or maybe the second.

The mint went through many sets of dies. So, the PL's are the true first strikes. But, there is no way of knowing this when looking at a coin other than judging the condition of the surface. A coin marked as "First Strike" by PCGS could have been the last strike from a particular set of dies.

I really found that INTERESTING and logical.

newmisty 02-23-2010 11:27 AM

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So basically it's a crap shoot depending on who is "grading" the coin and when. Obviously if I have a couple UHR and send them in to be graded, they have no way of knowing when it went under the press right?

I'm curious between an ms70 and a PL69-70...if the planchets are the same is it an amount of luster present that determines the PL grade?

Sorry for the questions but it sounds a bit fishy.

livtocruz 02-23-2010 07:22 PM

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So why didn't they grade mine PL? :mad_m:

RossL 02-23-2010 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2194923)
Sorry for the questions but it sounds a bit fishy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2195671)
So why didn't they grade mine PL? :mad_m:

Can any of you tell the difference between MS69, MS70, and ProofLike with the naked eye?

:biggrin:

First Strike?

:biggrin:

I thought so. That's why the whole slab grading thing is so fishy :mad_m:

prophet 02-23-2010 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 2195695)
Can any of you tell the difference between MS69, MS70, and ProofLike with the naked eye?

:biggrin:

First Strike?

:biggrin:

I thought so. That's why the whole slab grading thing is so fishy :mad_m:

Its ALL marketing ploy..... :emotions16:

Wonder what next.... PL graded? :23_28_100s:

Someone mentioned Last Strike! :111:

GoldenE 02-23-2010 08:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RossL (Post 2195695)
Can any of you tell the difference between MS69, MS70, and ProofLike with the naked eye?

:biggrin:

First Strike?

:biggrin:

I thought so. That's why the whole slab grading thing is so fishy :mad_m:


What does prooflike mean for UHR? On the mint page, and eb*y they look alike (maybe its the quality of the pic?). are they shinier/more reflective than the regular ones?

livtocruz 02-23-2010 09:15 PM

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Here is how the coin grading is done by NGC.

http://www.ngccoin.com/coingrading/grading2.asp

GE, proofs are like little mirrors in that they reflect back what they are held up to. Proof like means that the coin has many of the reflective qualities of a proof but aren't reflective like a proof. Did I get that right HS?

GoldenE 02-23-2010 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2195848)
Here is how the coin grading is done by NGC.

http://www.ngccoin.com/coingrading/grading2.asp

GE, proofs are like little mirrors in that they reflect back what they are held up to. Proof like means that the coin has many of the reflective qualities of a proof but aren't reflective like a proof. Did I get that right HS?

I guess my question is: were there coins that were specifically made as proofs? Or is it possible any UHR can be "proof-like"?

HistoryStudent 02-23-2010 11:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2178252)
Attachment 87214

shouldas wouldas couldas bought the MS70 *PROOF LIKE*

$4,300!

:cry1:

Still the above puppy is a EARLY RELEASE 1 of 18 total - still really really crying... sob sob sob...

Sorry you GOTTA know somebody to get the * PROOF LIKE * just kidding
and teasing too much...

:signs14:

"the devil made me do it," said Flip Wilson..

:evil: smile :signs14:

The Proof Like is probably from a new set of DIES (dyes?) and the first coin from polished dies, too. As mentioned herein by somebody a lot quicker on the uptake than this OLE boy!

So only one in 500 is a PL around that number...

Besides they are really shiny - I may have a few that were the second and third coins but they will now qualify for the

PROOF LIKE designation...

Nope that costs a tonne of money for that!!

HistoryStudent 02-23-2010 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2195671)
So why didn't they grade mine PL? :mad_m:

I'll trade you even for a couple in the RAW boxes, okay? :36_1_34:

livtocruz 02-24-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2196021)
I'll trade you even for a couple in the RAW boxes, okay? :36_1_34:

Nah, As a Newb coin collector I'll stick with what I got and call myself fortunate.
Maybe I'll wait a few years and then those graders will need stronger cheaters than mine to see things close up. Yea, that what I'll do, wait till they're old fuddy duddys. Wait, by that time I'll be one too. Oh, :censored: Ya know HS, I still have that third UHR still in it's mint shell, SEE. Well it was in it's shell.

prophet 02-24-2010 12:53 AM

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Are those MJs gloves?


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HistoryStudent 02-24-2010 01:03 AM

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No those are DYED O.J. gloves (interiors to the leather ones) - that were unshrunk again.

:signs14:

Heads it's mine:111: ; tails you keep IT :4_1_72: - SO throw it really high about five stories and don't miss, okay?
:getdown::getdown: and catch it!

voidus 02-27-2010 01:34 PM

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Proof Like 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles Fetch Big Premiums

Can you describe the appearance and surfaces of 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coins that have received NGC's "PL" designation?

Robert B. Lecce: A PL coin has a definite Proof Like and Shinny Mirror Surface on ALL of the Obverse and Reverse of the coin. The only difference from the UHR PL coins and other Modern Proof coins is that the UHR PL coins do NOT exhibit the Cameo Contrast that is evident on standard Modern Proof Coins. In our opinion they fit the standards of Proof in all other aspects. Once you have seen a PL and a NON PL UHR side by side the difference becomes more obvious. A NON Proof Like coin has a satin matte like surface not unlike a standard MS or burnished modern coin.

The problem lies in that there is a wide range of "in between" surfaces. They range from almost PL to very slight faint hints of PL. There are also coins that are PL on the Obverse but not on the reverse. From our experience a UHR is much more likely to have a PL Obverse and NON PL reverse. It seems to me that the definitive distinction of a PL coin is a coin that has FULL PL surfaces on Obverse and Reverse including and MOST importantly in between the rays on the reverse of the coin. That is the most likely part of the coin to lack the true PL surface.

Good read. :5_1_120:

http://news.coinupdate.com/proof-lik...ld-coins-0166/

diversified2 02-27-2010 01:55 PM

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Thanks for that info Voidus....great now I am going to have to dig up the stash and take another look at mine...better to wait for Spring:ok:

prophet 02-28-2010 01:19 AM

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i looked at my UHRs......they ALL looked like mirror to me! :ok:

HistoryStudent 02-28-2010 10:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voidus (Post 2201814)
Proof Like 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles Fetch Big Premiums

Can you describe the appearance and surfaces of 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coins that have received NGC's "PL" designation?

Robert B. Lecce: A PL coin has a definite Proof Like and Shinny Mirror Surface on ALL of the Obverse and Reverse of the coin. The only difference from the UHR PL coins and other Modern Proof coins is that the UHR PL coins do NOT exhibit the Cameo Contrast that is evident on standard Modern Proof Coins. In our opinion they fit the standards of Proof in all other aspects. Once you have seen a PL and a NON PL UHR side by side the difference becomes more obvious. A NON Proof Like coin has a satin matte like surface not unlike a standard MS or burnished modern coin.

The problem lies in that there is a wide range of "in between" surfaces. They range from almost PL to very slight faint hints of PL. There are also coins that are PL on the Obverse but not on the reverse. From our experience a UHR is much more likely to have a PL Obverse and NON PL reverse. It seems to me that the definitive distinction of a PL coin is a coin that has FULL PL surfaces on Obverse and Reverse including and MOST importantly in between the rays on the reverse of the coin. That is the most likely part of the coin to lack the true PL surface.

Good read. :5_1_120:

http://news.coinupdate.com/proof-lik...ld-coins-0166/

And THEY are so darn PRETTY too! :23_30_104:

HistoryStudent 03-12-2010 05:55 PM

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I see the prices are starting to CLIMB a tad...

the PROOF LIKES are now in the 4 "Ks" (over $4000.00!)

The MS70 are popping out too above $2000.00

livtocruz 03-12-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2223894)
I see the prices are starting to CLIMB a tad...

the PROOF LIKES are now in the 4 "Ks" (over $4000.00!)

The MS70 are popping out too above $2000.00

You mean these? Proudly displayed in my office at home.

HistoryStudent 03-12-2010 06:53 PM

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[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="6"]Like Ronnie Reagan used to say to his competition, "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" :23_28_100s:

Just kidding...maybe...

L@@KIE here:


http://news.coinupdate.com/proof-lik...ld-coins-0166/

HistoryStudent 03-15-2010 11:49 PM

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Last chance:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200448999081


get it cheap... LUV TO CRUISE....


:signs14::yes:

HistoryStudent 03-17-2010 02:23 PM

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Got me another UHR with the American Flag on it! A MS70 PCGS "First Strike" - I just LOVE those (unfortunately expensive bancha) things...

By the way I recently saw that the PROOF LIKE NGC designation is now hitting 10% of the TOTAL ones graded. Seems that the astute ones (read you - take a L@@KSEE) take a GOOD look at their PCGS MS70s and see if they are shiny on BOTH (BIGGIE is BOTH) SIDES and crack them out and send them to NGC - GUESS WHAT?

Boy, you are too smart, right they come back most times * PROOF LIKE * - NO brainer, folks. And sell them for 5 to 10 grand on NO MORE FREE BAY.

See I made many of you double your MONEY just for reading my BS.

voidus 03-19-2010 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2230933)
Got me another UHR with the American Flag on it! A MS70 PCGS "First Strike" - I just LOVE those (unfortunately expensive bancha) things...

By the way I recently saw that the PROOF LIKE NGC designation is now hitting 10% of the TOTAL ones graded. Seems that the astute ones (read you - take a L@@KSEE) take a GOOD look at their PCGS MS70s and see if they are shiny on BOTH (BIGGIE is BOTH) SIDES and crack them out and send them to NGC - GUESS WHAT?

Boy, you are too smart, right they come back most times * PROOF LIKE * - NO brainer, folks. And sell them for 5 to 10 grand on NO MORE FREE BAY.

See I made many of you double your MONEY just for reading my BS.

Hey HS, I have a question for ya. If I send in a UHR to NGC, what if they switch a lower graded one for the one I sent in, ie how to prove your coin is yours?
AND
If I go through a coin dealer to send in the coin, what is to guarantee, the coin dealer also does a switch? :15_1_70v:

HistoryStudent 03-19-2010 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voidus (Post 2234227)
Hey HS, I have a question for ya. If I send in a UHR to NGC, what if they switch a lower graded one for the one I sent in, ie how to prove your coin is yours?
AND
If I go through a coin dealer to send in the coin, what is to guarantee, the coin dealer also does a switch? :15_1_70v:

PCGS sells coins NGC does NOT for ONE thing. I've seen TRUE examples where the owner of PCGS buys a coin and then regrades it higher from a fellow who tried five times prior - and then doubles his money.

DYODD P.S. the seller to PCGS was really PI$$ED OFF!

The world is full of crooks especially now. :Surrender::ok:

Also you want the PROOF LIKE grade from NGC not PCGS it does NOT have one but they have graded a LOT of UHR MS70 that are really shiny on BOTH sides and could easily get a NGC MS70 * PROOF LIKE * grade in return to YOU doubling your coin worth... it's a slam DUNK if you are smarter than a ROCK.


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